Wrigley Renovation Thread

[Guest]

City of Chicago population: 2,695,598

Chicago Metro Populuation: 9,686,021

 

That's a whole lot of drivers

 

(Source: http://www.december.com/places/chi/cmsa.html)

[WrigleyField 22]

Okay but no one would expects the Cubs would voluntarily leave the city. No smart person would argue for a stadium outside the city as preferable, but that's really not what is being talked about.

 

Given the alternate reality where the abity to stay at Wrigley were at risk, where in the city would you plop a stadium? The space just doesn't exist.

 

Luckily we have no reason to believe the ability to stay at Wrigley is at risk, but hypothetically Rosemont isn't hard enough to get to to drive away enough a significant segment of fans. And really is Wrigley even that convenient? Its pretty far north and not near the expressway. From an accesibility standpoint Comiskey is just as good as Wrigley and struggles. They're just less of a draw, even though its just as easy to get to their games.

 

 

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[SouthSideRyan]

I see an awful lot of "it takes so long to get there" as arguments against a Rosemont stadium. What about the huge number of fans who live in the suburbs? It's easier to get to Rosemont from the suburbs than Wrigley. I know you city folk like to pretend you're the only ones that matter, but an awful lot of people live in the surrounding area that would benefit from a move out west.

 

We are the only ones that matter.

[Banedon]

Chicago Cubs of Rosemont? Man that sounds classy as [expletive].

[Guest]

Chicago Cubs of Rosemont? Man that sounds classy as [expletive].

Right, they'd totally change the name.

[Guest]

I do hope that they start exploring (or have already) new stadium options if they don't get what they want by opening day.

 

Ultimately, what I want is to stay where they are with an awesome renovation (assuming they get what they want), but there is a small part of me that would absolutely love for them to tell the city and neighborhood to [expletive] themselves.

[Guest]

I really don't care if they stay where they are or move elsewhere in the area. I just want them to have the best park and best revenues possible.

[Guest]

I could totally get behind this. Would love to see Wrigleyville disappear overnight.

 

Can you imagine what a new stadium would look/feel like if built to Theo's specifications? Me neither.

[Guest]

I could totally get behind this. Would love to see Wrigleyville disappear overnight.

 

Can you imagine what a new stadium would look/feel like if built to Theo's specifications? Me neither.

 

I don't know that I'd want Theo dabbling in the architecture of our new park. Just saying.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I could totally get behind this. Would love to see Wrigleyville disappear overnight.

 

Can you imagine what a new stadium would look/feel like if built to Theo's specifications? Me neither.

 

I don't know that I'd want Theo dabbling in the architecture of our new park. Just saying.

 

I'd like the idea except I suspect he'd make it as bad for our current organization as possible in order to improve our draft position, plus he'd skimp on the expenses to try to save money for more bad Cuban pitchers.

[Guest]

Because this is apparently unclear, I do not wish for Theo to pick out concrete for the hypothetical new park.

[Guest]

Because this is apparently unclear, I do not wish for Theo to pick out concrete for the hypothetical new park.

 

Well, you alluded to imagining how it would look and feel if Theo had a hand in it... I'm not really sure what you could have meant he'd have a hand in besides maybe field dimensions.

[Guest]

Someone posted this at PSD

 

I own a home a few blocks from the stadium and am terrified of the Cubs moving (both because I'm a huge fan and because of the value of my home). I have to think that most of my neighbors agree with me and that the vocal few who are now negotiating with the Cubs do not represent the majority of us. Business owners and home owners here are not stupid enough to believe that Wrigley isn't key to the neighborhood.

 

If Rosemont talks continue I would expect a strong contingent of the previously silent neighborhood to start putting major pressure to get a deal done with the Cubs. Right now the individuals the Cubs are dealing with are the few busybodies that care about this stuff while most people don't have time or reason to get involved. I know I'm furious that I am being "represented" by these people and I would guess most of my neighbors feel the same - time to do something about it.

 

While I wouldn't be that worried about the possibility of a move (at least not yet), I do hope this is the case and that the entitled assholes are the vocal minority.

 

EDIT - In case anyone thinks this is interesting, also from a PSD poster (one who I have seen post a lot and seems reputable)

 

Reality is Stevens is a White Sox fan. But he is a business man first. I mentioned this article to one of my coworkers. Turns out he knows involved in Rosemont. So he asked him about it. His words were this is VERY real. He did not think it would go public yet but they have been working on the logistics, construction permits and things needed to make it happen. So maybe there is a chance. Oh, he mentioned it would be an open air ballpark.

Edited March 19, 2013 by David

[bukie]

I could totally get behind this. Would love to see Wrigleyville disappear overnight.

 

Can you imagine what a new stadium would look/feel like if built to Theo's specifications? Me neither.

 

I don't know that I'd want Theo dabbling in the architecture of our new park. Just saying.

 

I'd like the idea except I suspect he'd make it as bad for our current organization as possible in order to improve our draft position, plus he'd skimp on the expenses to try to save money for more bad Cuban pitchers.

This is going to be your new thing now, then?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Because this is apparently unclear, I do not wish for Theo to pick out concrete for the hypothetical new park.

 

Well, you alluded to imagining how it would look and feel if Theo had a hand in it... I'm not really sure what you could have meant he'd have a hand in besides maybe field dimensions.

 

It would be cool to have one of those parks you can build an organization to exploit. Like short left-field porch and lots of right-handed fly ball hitters and sticking a terrible defensive outfielder in left.

[Banedon]

Chicago Cubs of Rosemont? Man that sounds classy as [expletive].

Right, they'd totally change the name.

 

I was totally serious. :P

[ManCrushOnNomar]

City of Chicago population: 2,695,598

Chicago Metro Populuation: 9,686,021

 

That's a whole lot of drivers

 

(Source: http://www.december.com/places/chi/cmsa.html)

Thank you.

[SouthSideRyan]

I think they should build 5 stadiums all 20 minutes apart in different suburbs, so everyone gets a chance to have a Cubs stadium by them, no matter how far from the actual city they live.

[XZero771679666304]

I think they should build 5 stadiums all 20 minutes apart in different suburbs, so everyone gets a chance to have a Cubs stadium by them, no matter how far from the actual city they live.

 

 

This is all just an exercise because it isn't going to happen, but if you can't stay at Wrigley, where else is there to go but the suburbs?

[BeerHere]

Someone posted this at PSD

 

I own a home a few blocks from the stadium and am terrified of the Cubs moving (both because I'm a huge fan and because of the value of my home). I have to think that most of my neighbors agree with me and that the vocal few who are now negotiating with the Cubs do not represent the majority of us. Business owners and home owners here are not stupid enough to believe that Wrigley isn't key to the neighborhood.

 

If Rosemont talks continue I would expect a strong contingent of the previously silent neighborhood to start putting major pressure to get a deal done with the Cubs. Right now the individuals the Cubs are dealing with are the few busybodies that care about this stuff while most people don't have time or reason to get involved. I know I'm furious that I am being "represented" by these people and I would guess most of my neighbors feel the same - time to do something about it.

 

While I wouldn't be that worried about the possibility of a move (at least not yet), I do hope this is the case and that the entitled [expletive] are the vocal minority.

 

 

I've been saying this for years. I used to own a home in Wrigleyville as well. The business owners, bar owners, rooftop owners are large LLC's and corporations. None live in the community. They have no interest in the community, parking or anything else that doesn't drive their bottom line. They operate for-profit organizations and they are entirely within their rights to operate how they do. It is the notion that they are negotiating with their golden egg that bothers me. The idea that they are being allowed by the City of Chicago to dictate to the cubs how many night games they can have, how many signs they can have and where to put them....it's absurd. They have been stealing the product for years and only recently have had to kick something back to the team (17% of what they get for free). The Ricketts should be doing everything they can to increase their leverage. Rosemont provides that and all people here can do is complain about the lack of public transportation and airplane noise. IT IS A NEGOTIATION ISSUE, NOTHING ELSE. Whether it was intended or not, the Rosemont mayor has increased the Cubs negotiating power. Do I want them to leave the city? Absolutely. Will they? No way.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Ricketts should be doing everything they can to increase their leverage. Rosemont provides that and all people here can do is complain about the lack of public transportation and airplane noise. IT IS A NEGOTIATION ISSUE, NOTHING ELSE. Whether it was intended or not, the Rosemont mayor has increased the Cubs negotiating power. Do I want them to leave the city? Absolutely. Will they? No way.

 

Nobody's really arguing that, it's against the people who are saying hey Rosemont isn't such a bad idea!! Or maybe Skokie!! It's about time the suburbs got their fair share!

[Guest]

The Ricketts should be doing everything they can to increase their leverage. Rosemont provides that and all people here can do is complain about the lack of public transportation and airplane noise. IT IS A NEGOTIATION ISSUE, NOTHING ELSE. Whether it was intended or not, the Rosemont mayor has increased the Cubs negotiating power. Do I want them to leave the city? Absolutely. Will they? No way.

 

Nobody's really arguing that, it's against the people who are saying hey Rosemont isn't such a bad idea!! Or maybe Skokie!! It's about time the suburbs got their fair share!

 

I would love a new stadium, so I honestly don't think a brand new stadium in Rosemont is a bad idea, per se. It's not my ideal idea, but if that ended up happening, I would definitely be excited about getting a brand new park, which we couldn't do in the city.

[XZero771679666304]

The Ricketts should be doing everything they can to increase their leverage. Rosemont provides that and all people here can do is complain about the lack of public transportation and airplane noise. IT IS A NEGOTIATION ISSUE, NOTHING ELSE. Whether it was intended or not, the Rosemont mayor has increased the Cubs negotiating power. Do I want them to leave the city? Absolutely. Will they? No way.

 

Nobody's really arguing that, it's against the people who are saying hey Rosemont isn't such a bad idea!! Or maybe Skokie!! It's about time the suburbs got their fair share!

 

I would love a new stadium, so I honestly don't think a brand new stadium in Rosemont is a bad idea, per se. It's not my ideal idea, but if that ended up happening, I would definitely be excited about getting a brand new park, which we couldn't do in the city.

 

As someone who hasn't lived in Chicago since I was too young to pay attention to such things, I'm genuinely curious as to whether there would be a non-Wrigley option other than the suburbs. I don't think it's anyone's burning desire to see the Cubs move to the burbs, but if idle threats are going to be made, I don't see where else could be possibly be mentioned.

[SouthSideRyan]

The Ricketts should be doing everything they can to increase their leverage. Rosemont provides that and all people here can do is complain about the lack of public transportation and airplane noise. IT IS A NEGOTIATION ISSUE, NOTHING ELSE. Whether it was intended or not, the Rosemont mayor has increased the Cubs negotiating power. Do I want them to leave the city? Absolutely. Will they? No way.

 

Nobody's really arguing that, it's against the people who are saying hey Rosemont isn't such a bad idea!! Or maybe Skokie!! It's about time the suburbs got their fair share!

 

I would love a new stadium, so I honestly don't think a brand new stadium in Rosemont is a bad idea, per se. It's not my ideal idea, but if that ended up happening, I would definitely be excited about getting a brand new park, which we couldn't do in the city.

 

Why would you love a new stadium that will cost a [expletive] ton more money (from the Cubs directly) in a horrible location compared to re-habbing Wrigley?

[Guest]

The Ricketts should be doing everything they can to increase their leverage. Rosemont provides that and all people here can do is complain about the lack of public transportation and airplane noise. IT IS A NEGOTIATION ISSUE, NOTHING ELSE. Whether it was intended or not, the Rosemont mayor has increased the Cubs negotiating power. Do I want them to leave the city? Absolutely. Will they? No way.

 

Nobody's really arguing that, it's against the people who are saying hey Rosemont isn't such a bad idea!! Or maybe Skokie!! It's about time the suburbs got their fair share!

 

I would love a new stadium, so I honestly don't think a brand new stadium in Rosemont is a bad idea, per se. It's not my ideal idea, but if that ended up happening, I would definitely be excited about getting a brand new park, which we couldn't do in the city.

 

Why would you love a new stadium that will cost a [expletive] ton more money (from the Cubs directly) in a horrible location compared to re-habbing Wrigley?

 

Because it would be fun.

 

And the location wouldn't be all that horrible for me (my location is outdated), so from my standpoint, that's not an issue.

 

And I wouldn't prefer it to re-habbing Wrigley, hence saying it's not ideal.

 

I'm just saying if push came to shove and it had to happen, I could find some fun in it and I'd be excited about the new park. It wouldn't be a tragedy to me.

 

 

EDIT -

Also, who knows how much money the stadium would cost the Cubs directly if/when 4 or 5 of these towns got done fighting over them.