Tigers sign Prince - 9/214 - Heyman

[d_money]

Any chance Rizzo could end up in LF? Or would that just be bad news?

 

Yonder Alonso tried it at Cincy and it was a circus. Rizzo could be similar. Rizzo better be a good defensive 1B otherwise he's just a DH.

[TruffleShuffle]

Any chance Rizzo could end up in LF? Or would that just be bad news?

 

Yonder Alonso tried it at Cincy and it was a circus.

 

hey his OF play did give tony campana his first professional home run and one of the few memorable cub highlights of 2011.

[dew1679666265]

The only way rizzo spends 3 full seasons in AAA is if he sucks.

 

Probably true. Though it might be worth keeping him in AAA one year more than he needs to get the prospects we'd get from a Prince trade.

[abuck1220]

Any chance Rizzo could end up in LF? Or would that just be bad news?

 

Yonder Alonso tried it at Cincy and it was a circus.

 

that has nothing to do with anything.

[biittner77]

Any chance Rizzo could end up in LF? Or would that just be bad news?

 

Yonder Alonso tried it at Cincy and it was a circus.

 

that has nothing to do with anything.

 

Corey Patterson wasn't very good. Therefore no highly regarded Cub prospect can ever be good. By the transitive power, If Alonso can't play LF then Rizzo can't either.

 

Can't you see the obvious logic?

[Rob]

I can't think of a single 1B to OF conversion that's gone well.

[scarey]

I can't think of a single 1B to OF conversion that's gone well.

 

Conor Jackson.

[NewUserName]

I can't think of a single 1B to OF conversion that's gone well.

 

I wonder why. I can think of several players who made successful moves from other IF positions and even a couple of catchers. I guess if you were a 1b to begin with it is because you were already considered a below average athlete. I always wondered why Derrek Lee was a 1b. With his long legs and speed it would seem that he would be a natural OFer.

[Rob]

I can't think of a single 1B to OF conversion that's gone well.

 

Conor Jackson.

 

I don't know that one really counts. He had been an OF through his entire minor league career until they moved him to 1B at AAA just to get him in the lineup. He spent only three seasons primarily as a 1B.

[davearm2]

So is Prince Fielder thinking of signing someplace?

[Guest]

Is there much precedence for a 9 figure deal being signed this late in the offseason? There seem to be more and more instances of clubs getting the best of Boras the last few years.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Is there much precedence for a 9 figure deal being signed this late in the offseason? There seem to be more and more instances of clubs getting the best of Boras the last few years.

 

It could be that teams are going more and more by advanced stats and learning that they could get similar value with far cheaper options than these prized pigs. In Fielders case, it's also that not many teams need a 1st baseman. I still think that if nobody steps in with at least a 6/135 offer that he'll end up back with the Brewers for something like 3/60 with a mutual option or two so they can make the most of their final years with the window open.

[Guest]

Answering my own question, I found thirteen 100+ million deals that I was sure were FA deals. I think there's a couple more(Holliday, for one) that could be added, but I'm not clicking through that slideshow list of contracts again to find it.

 

Of the 13, only 3 were signed after New Year's(see if you can find the common link), Teixiera(1/6), Beltran(1/13), and A-Rod(1/26). So A-Rod to the Rangers is the only one that's gone this long.

[NewUserName]

Answering my own question, I found thirteen 100+ million deals that I was sure were FA deals. I think there's a couple more(Holliday, for one) that could be added, but I'm not clicking through that slideshow list of contracts again to find it.

 

Of the 13, only 3 were signed after New Year's(see if you can find the common link), Teixiera(1/6), Beltran(1/13), and A-Rod(1/26). So A-Rod to the Rangers is the only one that's gone this long.

 

Didn't it turn out that the Rangers were the only team seriously bidding, Boras just played it out longer to give the impression that there was more interest in him than there really was?

[C.C.]

How many teams is he down to?

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I still think that if nobody steps in with at least a 6/135 offer that he'll end up back with the Brewers for something like 3/60 with a mutual option or two so they can make the most of their final years with the window open.

If he is willing to sign for 3/60, the Cubs and other teams would be all over that and give him even more. That doesn't seem possible.

[AI]

Word in DFW is that Prince wants to join the Rangers and that the Rangers can still make it work even after Yu. They will have to get creative, though.

[KingCubsFan]

Word in DFW is that Prince wants to join the Rangers and that the Rangers can still make it work even after Yu. They will have to get creative, though.

That would really suck for the Angels if the Rangers added Darvish and Fielder in the same offseason the Angels added Pujols and Wilson.

[SouthSideRyan]

I still think that if nobody steps in with at least a 6/135 offer that he'll end up back with the Brewers for something like 3/60 with a mutual option or two so they can make the most of their final years with the window open.

If he is willing to sign for 3/60, the Cubs and other teams would be all over that and give him even more. That doesn't seem possible.

 

If nobody steps in with 6/135, he'll go somewhere for less years and a lower AAV. I don't understand what's so crazy about that.

[SouthSideRyan]

Word in DFW is that Prince wants to join the Rangers and that the Rangers can still make it work even after Yu. They will have to get creative, though.

That would really suck for the Angels if the Rangers added Darvish and Fielder in the same offseason the Angels added Pujols and Wilson.

 

Imagine how the A's and Mariners feel.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Word in DFW is that Prince wants to join the Rangers and that the Rangers can still make it work even after Yu. They will have to get creative, though.

 

So now he "wants" to join the Rangers. Funny how he suddenly "wants" to join the only team that's still rumored to have legit interest in him, at anything near his asking price anyway.

[Garwilly]

I still think that if nobody steps in with at least a 6/135 offer that he'll end up back with the Brewers for something like 3/60 with a mutual option or two so they can make the most of their final years with the window open.

If he is willing to sign for 3/60, the Cubs and other teams would be all over that and give him even more. That doesn't seem possible.

 

If nobody steps in with 6/135, he'll go somewhere for less years and a lower AAV. I don't understand what's so crazy about that.

 

I'd agree that 3/60 doesn't seem possible, as several teams would likely eclipse that offer. I don't think that PleasewinCubs is stating that the terms won't come down, just that 3/60 is easily below the floor.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I still think that if nobody steps in with at least a 6/135 offer that he'll end up back with the Brewers for something like 3/60 with a mutual option or two so they can make the most of their final years with the window open.

If he is willing to sign for 3/60, the Cubs and other teams would be all over that and give him even more. That doesn't seem possible.

 

If nobody steps in with 6/135, he'll go somewhere for less years and a lower AAV. I don't understand what's so crazy about that.

 

Not just any team, just for the Brewers. I could see him taking a gamble on himself to accept less money and years from the Brewers for a shot at winning it all with them. 2/45 might make more sense so he's 29 when the deals up and still has a shot at a 5 year deal. You never know who could need a 1st baseman by then. Weeks, Braun, Fielder, Ramirez, and Hart In in the middle of the lineup with a very strong rotation and back end of the bullpen? That could be an NL fav for a few years.

[Guest]

The only way Fielder is going back to the Brewers is if they decide to raise their payroll by the entirety of his contract for the length of the deal. That ship sailed a long, long time ago, before the 2011 season when they dealt for Greinke and extended Weeks.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I still think that if nobody steps in with at least a 6/135 offer that he'll end up back with the Brewers for something like 3/60 with a mutual option or two so they can make the most of their final years with the window open.

If he is willing to sign for 3/60, the Cubs and other teams would be all over that and give him even more. That doesn't seem possible.

 

If nobody steps in with 6/135, he'll go somewhere for less years and a lower AAV. I don't understand what's so crazy about that.

 

I'd agree that 3/60 doesn't seem possible, as several teams would likely eclipse that offer. I don't think that PleasewinCubs is stating that the terms won't come down, just that 3/60 is easily below the floor.

 

Yes. Exactly.

 

For the record, I'm not saying the price won't come down. I am saying 3/60 is crazy.