Bears game 13: Sunday, Dec 12 @ Den 3pm

[rawaction]

Asked for his thoughts on Tebow after the game, Brian Urlacher was succinct.

 

“He’s a good running back, man. He runs the ball well,” Urlacher said.

Why Urlacher is talking post game trash is beyond me YOU LOST THE FREAKIN GAME MORON!

 

The offense lost the game. They went all those years without an offense, and just when it looked like they had one with credibility, one that could actually convert on 3rd and 8, and score occasionally, it all blows up and they now have a worse offense than they've ever had during the Urlacher era. He's not talking trash, its accurate.

 

The thing that sucks the most about these three games is those teams are obviously terrible, and they've done nothing in the games played to suggest they are anything but terrible. The Bears offense is just so incredibly impotent without Cutler that it doesn't even matter how terrible those opponents have been. With Cutler they probably win all three games by more than a touchdown.

 

Yep, if Cutler's healthy, we're 10-3 with an 8 game win streak and all but locked up a playoff spot. Hell, I'll even give the Raiders that game because the Bears did put up a decent amount of points. Still 9-4 team with Cutler at worst. Pay him whatever the hell he wants, oh and get him some damn help.

[apete6]

Asked for his thoughts on Tebow after the game, Brian Urlacher was succinct.

 

“He’s a good running back, man. He runs the ball well,” Urlacher said.

Why Urlacher is talking post game trash is beyond me YOU LOST THE FREAKIN GAME MORON!

 

The offense lost the game. They went all those years without an offense, and just when it looked like they had one with credibility, one that could actually convert on 3rd and 8, and score occasionally, it all blows up and they now have a worse offense than they've ever had during the Urlacher era. He's not talking trash, its accurate.

 

The thing that sucks the most about these three games is those teams are obviously terrible, and they've done nothing in the games played to suggest they are anything but terrible. The Bears offense is just so incredibly impotent without Cutler that it doesn't even matter how terrible those opponents have been. With Cutler they probably win all three games by more than a touchdown.

 

Yep, if Cutler's healthy, we're 10-3 with an 8 game win streak and all but locked up a playoff spot. Hell, I'll even give the Raiders that game because the Bears did put up a decent amount of points. Still 9-4 team with Cutler at worst. Pay him whatever the hell he wants, oh and get him some damn help.

 

One of the most disappointing things in all of this is that Peppers, Urlacher, Briggs, and Tillman aren't getting any younger. We're wasting an outstanding defensive season right now. There's no way all of them make it basically through a 3rd consecutive season without injuries next year. [expletive] it all.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yep, if Cutler's healthy, we're 10-3 with an 8 game win streak and all but locked up a playoff spot. Hell, I'll even give the Raiders that game because the Bears did put up a decent amount of points. Still 9-4 team with Cutler at worst. Pay him whatever the hell he wants, oh and get him some damn help.

 

I think the Bears beat Oakland easily with Cutler. He's got 2 more years on his deal at a very favorable price. There's probably no need to act fast, but I would strongly suggest they get a deal done by midseason next year.

[SouthSideRyan]

Wanting to cut/get rid of Barber is total reactionary silliness. Yes, he made a couple of HUGE mistakes yesterday, but he's been a really strong backup RB for us this season. Remember Chester Taylor anyone?

 

A MESSAGE MUST BE SENT THAT WE ARE ANGRY

[Soul]

Yep, if Cutler's healthy, we're 10-3 with an 8 game win streak and all but locked up a playoff spot. Hell, I'll even give the Raiders that game because the Bears did put up a decent amount of points. Still 9-4 team with Cutler at worst. Pay him whatever the hell he wants, oh and get him some damn help.

 

I think the Bears beat Oakland easily with Cutler. He's got 2 more years on his deal at a very favorable price. There's probably no need to act fast, but I would strongly suggest they get a deal done by midseason next year.

 

If there's any silver lining to this, it's the fact that any remaining doubts about Cutler's value to this team have been removed. They'll get a deal done.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yep, if Cutler's healthy, we're 10-3 with an 8 game win streak and all but locked up a playoff spot. Hell, I'll even give the Raiders that game because the Bears did put up a decent amount of points. Still 9-4 team with Cutler at worst. Pay him whatever the hell he wants, oh and get him some damn help.

 

I think the Bears beat Oakland easily with Cutler. He's got 2 more years on his deal at a very favorable price. There's probably no need to act fast, but I would strongly suggest they get a deal done by midseason next year.

 

If there's any silver lining to this, it's the fact that any remaining doubts about Cutler's value to this team have been removed. They'll get a deal done.

 

I would bet there are tremendous doubts from the naysayers about a) his durability, b) his desire to play/win, c) his worthiness for a big franchise QB contract. Hell, there were Peyton Manning doubters until well after he won a SB. People will comment about how Cutler has finished back to back seasons injured.

[rawaction]

With our luck, Bears are going to win next week with the Lions losing to the Raiders, get Cutler and Forte back on Xmas for the Packers, lose a heartbreaker and then win vs. Minnesota, so the Bears will draft 20th (first team out of playoffs) instead of like 14th or something they would pick from being 7-9.

[Soul]

Yep, if Cutler's healthy, we're 10-3 with an 8 game win streak and all but locked up a playoff spot. Hell, I'll even give the Raiders that game because the Bears did put up a decent amount of points. Still 9-4 team with Cutler at worst. Pay him whatever the hell he wants, oh and get him some damn help.

 

I think the Bears beat Oakland easily with Cutler. He's got 2 more years on his deal at a very favorable price. There's probably no need to act fast, but I would strongly suggest they get a deal done by midseason next year.

 

If there's any silver lining to this, it's the fact that any remaining doubts about Cutler's value to this team have been removed. They'll get a deal done.

 

I would bet there are tremendous doubts from the naysayers about a) his durability, b) his desire to play/win, c) his worthiness for a big franchise QB contract. Hell, there were Peyton Manning doubters until well after he won a SB. People will comment about how Cutler has finished back to back seasons injured.

 

I'm sure you're right, although after seeing the effects of him out of the lineup, that kind of talk seems more like digging for anything negative to say about an obviously valuable player. Especially considering we don't have alternatives on the roster, and we've got a long history of failing to acquire a good QB.

[Soul]

With our luck, Bears are going to win next week with the Lions losing to the Raiders, get Cutler and Forte back on Xmas for the Packers, lose a heartbreaker and then win vs. Minnesota, so the Bears will draft 20th (first team out of playoffs) instead of like 14th or something they would pick from being 7-9.

 

Wow, the negative vibes. That's horrifying.

[apete6]

Yep, if Cutler's healthy, we're 10-3 with an 8 game win streak and all but locked up a playoff spot. Hell, I'll even give the Raiders that game because the Bears did put up a decent amount of points. Still 9-4 team with Cutler at worst. Pay him whatever the hell he wants, oh and get him some damn help.

 

I think the Bears beat Oakland easily with Cutler. He's got 2 more years on his deal at a very favorable price. There's probably no need to act fast, but I would strongly suggest they get a deal done by midseason next year.

 

If there's any silver lining to this, it's the fact that any remaining doubts about Cutler's value to this team have been removed. They'll get a deal done.

 

I would bet there are tremendous doubts from the naysayers about a) his durability, b) his desire to play/win, c) his worthiness for a big franchise QB contract. Hell, there were Peyton Manning doubters until well after he won a SB. People will comment about how Cutler has finished back to back seasons injured.

 

I'm sure you're right, although after seeing the effects of him out of the lineup, that kind of talk seems more like digging for anything negative to say about an obviously valuable player. Especially considering we don't have alternatives on the roster, and we've got a long history of failing to acquire a good QB.

 

Yeah, Cutler should hold out for a giant contract. The Bears have absolutely no leverage here. What's the downside for Cutler? Everyone already thinks he's a dick. The competitor in him is bothered by this injury, but the businessman in him is loving it.

[kujay]

Yep, if Cutler's healthy, we're 10-3 with an 8 game win streak and all but locked up a playoff spot. Hell, I'll even give the Raiders that game because the Bears did put up a decent amount of points. Still 9-4 team with Cutler at worst. Pay him whatever the hell he wants, oh and get him some damn help.

 

I think the Bears beat Oakland easily with Cutler. He's got 2 more years on his deal at a very favorable price. There's probably no need to act fast, but I would strongly suggest they get a deal done by midseason next year.

 

If there's any silver lining to this, it's the fact that any remaining doubts about Cutler's value to this team have been removed. They'll get a deal done.

 

I would bet there are tremendous doubts from the naysayers about a) his durability, b) his desire to play/win, c) his worthiness for a big franchise QB contract. Hell, there were Peyton Manning doubters until well after he won a SB. People will comment about how Cutler has finished back to back seasons injured.

 

Doubting Cutler at this point, given the embarrasing O-line Angelo has given him, would be ridiculous.

[jersey cubs fan]

Doubting Cutler at this point, given the embarrasing O-line Angelo has given him, would be ridiculous.

 

Being ridiculous has never been a deterent to Cutler haters.

[cubbyvirus00]

Your name is fitting as you refuse to get off my nuts. Please stop trolling every one of my posts kthx.

 

your posts deserve to be trolled, they're terrible. saying that the bears haven't drafted a player worth a damn in over 5 years is a lot dumber than someone calling you out on your nonsense.

 

 

You can list names if you wish to prove my post wrong, or you can just troll my post and look stupid. You also have to option to read between the lines and understand that I completely hate Angelo and his horrible managing of my favorite NFL team.

 

Forte is a nice player, but we've had so many misses in the draft and we have had years to shore up this o-line which still has yet to be done. This season was basically a duplicate of last season. O-line issues, no WRs, less good TE play and a good aging defense.

[jersey cubs fan]

Your name is fitting as you refuse to get off my nuts. Please stop trolling every one of my posts kthx.

 

your posts deserve to be trolled, they're terrible. saying that the bears haven't drafted a player worth a damn in over 5 years is a lot dumber than someone calling you out on your nonsense.

 

 

You can list names if you wish to prove my post wrong, or you can just troll my post and look stupid. You also have to option to read between the lines and understand that I completely hate Angelo and his horrible managing of my favorite NFL team.

 

Forte is a nice player, but we've had so many misses in the draft and we have had years to shore up this o-line which still has yet to be done. This season was basically a duplicate of last season. O-line issues, no WRs, less good TE play and a good aging defense.

 

So you are sticking with the 5 years comment?

[cubbyvirus00]

Your name is fitting as you refuse to get off my nuts. Please stop trolling every one of my posts kthx.

 

your posts deserve to be trolled, they're terrible. saying that the bears haven't drafted a player worth a damn in over 5 years is a lot dumber than someone calling you out on your nonsense.

 

 

You can list names if you wish to prove my post wrong, or you can just troll my post and look stupid. You also have to option to read between the lines and understand that I completely hate Angelo and his horrible managing of my favorite NFL team.

 

Forte is a nice player, but we've had so many misses in the draft and we have had years to shore up this o-line which still has yet to be done. This season was basically a duplicate of last season. O-line issues, no WRs, less good TE play and a good aging defense.

 

So you are sticking with the 5 years comment?

 

Indeed. I'll give Angelo Forte and Hester. Hester was a head scratcher at the time if I remember correctly due to him not having a real strong position other then KR/PR

 

Year No. Round Pick Player Name Position College

2011 1 1 29 29 Gabe Carimi T Wisconsin

2 2 21 53 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State

3 3 29 93 Chris Conte DB California

4 5 29 160 Nathan Enderle QB Idaho

5 6 30 195 James Thomas LB West Virginia

2010s 1 7 0 0 Harvey Unga RB Brigham Young

2010 1 3 11 75 Major Wright DB Florida

2 4 11 109 Corey Wootton DE Northwestern

3 5 10 141 Joshua Moore DB Kansas State

4 6 12 181 Dan LeFevour QB Central Michigan

5 7 11 218 J'marcus Webb T West Texas State

2009 1 3 4 68 Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose State

2 3 35 99 Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma

3 4 5 105 Henry Melton DE Texas

4 4 19 119 D.J. Moore DB Vanderbilt

5 5 4 140 Johnny Knox WR Abilene Christian

6 5 18 154 Marcus Freeman LB Ohio State

7 6 17 190 Al Afalava DB Oregon State

8 7 37 246 Lance Louis G San Diego State

9 7 42 251 Derek Kinder WR Pittsburgh

2008 1 1 14 14 Chris Williams T Vanderbilt

2 2 13 44 Matt Forte RB Tulane

3 3 7 70 Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt

4 3 27 90 Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas

5 4 21 120 Craig Steltz DB Louisiana State

6 5 7 142 Zack Bowman DB Nebraska

7 5 23 158 Kellen Davis TE Michigan State

8 7 1 208 Ervin Baldwin DE Michigan State

9 7 15 222 Chester Adams G Georgia

10 7 36 243 Joey LaRocque LB Oregon State

11 7 40 247 Kirk Barton T Ohio State

12 7 41 248 Marcus Monk WR Arkansas

2007 1 1 31 31 Greg Olsen TE Miami (FL)

2 2 30 62 Dan Bazuin DE Central Michigan

3 3 30 93 Garrett Wolfe RB Northern Illinois

4 3 31 94 Michael Okwo LB Stanford

5 4 31 130 Josh Beekman G Boston College

6 5 30 167 Kevin Payne DB Louisiana-Monroe

7 5 31 168 Corey Graham DB New Hampshire

8 7 11 221 Trumaine McBride DB Mississippi

9 7 31 241 Aaron Brant T Iowa State

2006 1 2 10 42 Danieal Manning DB Abilene Christian

2 2 25 57 Devin Hester WR Miami (FL)

3 3 9 73 Dusty Dvoracek DT Oklahoma

4 4 23 120 Jamar Williams LB Arizona State

5 5 27 159 Mark Anderson DE Alabama

6 6 26 195 J.D. Runnels RB Oklahoma

7 6 31 200 Tyler Reed G Penn State

[jersey cubs fan]

Indeed. I'll give Angelo Forte and Hester. Hester was a head scratcher at the time if I remember correctly due to him not having a real strong position other then KR/PR

 

So you are sticking with the comment then completely refuting it?

[sneakypower]

so...picks that have outplayed or played up to their draft position:

Conte, Wright, Webb, Melton, Moore, Knox, Forte, Bennett, Steltz, Bowman, Davis, Olsen, Graham, Manning, Hester, Anderson

[Banedon]

Conte and Steltz have actually really been playing well lately.

[apete6]

so...picks that have outplayed or played up to their draft position:

Conte, Wright, Webb, Melton, Moore, Knox, Forte, Bennett, Steltz, Bowman, Davis, Olsen, Graham, Manning, Hester, Anderson

 

And we traded 2 first round picks and a 2nd/5th swap (got Knox in the 5th) for a top 10 QB that has completely justified the trade and unfortunately wasted one on Gaines Adams, who, IMO, would have thrived in this defense if he didn't, you know, die.

 

The draft the year after the Super Bowl was atrocious and indefensible, but since then, it hasn't been terrible. Also, if Jay doesn't get hurt, we're 9-4 or 10-3 and on our way to the playoffs with a good chance of at least 1 playoff win. I'm not a huge Angelo fan, but his drafting isn't the reason for yesterday's loss or Jay getting hurt.

[jersey cubs fan]

so...picks that have outplayed or played up to their draft position:

Conte, Wright, Webb, Melton, Moore, Knox, Forte, Bennett, Steltz, Bowman, Davis, Olsen, Graham, Manning, Hester, Anderson

 

I'd argue Olsen didn't outplay or play up to his draft position, but he's been worth more than a damn.

[cubbyvirus00]

Indeed. I'll give Angelo Forte and Hester. Hester was a head scratcher at the time if I remember correctly due to him not having a real strong position other then KR/PR

 

So you are sticking with the comment then completely refuting it?

 

Look I know Hester is a great player and this is Forte's breakout year, so while admitting that those two players have been great for us, I'm not going to give Angelo a pass. In doing so, that in no way refutes my thought process that Angelo has been horrible and his drafts in large have been unproductive. With the exception of Briggs and Urlacher, we've drafted 0 blue chip players.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not a huge Angelo fan, but his drafting isn't the reason for yesterday's loss or Jay getting hurt.

 

Well, his drafting has been the main reason why the offensive line has sucked so much and contributed to the abuse Cutler took, although not specifically on that play.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

They all suck except for the ones that don't suck.

[jersey cubs fan]

Indeed. I'll give Angelo Forte and Hester. Hester was a head scratcher at the time if I remember correctly due to him not having a real strong position other then KR/PR

 

So you are sticking with the comment then completely refuting it?

 

Look I know Hester is a great player and this is Forte's breakout year, so while admitting that those two players have been great for us, I'm not going to give Angelo a pass. In doing so, that in no way refutes my thought process that Angelo has been horrible and his drafts in large have been unproductive. With the exception of Briggs and Urlacher, we've drafted 0 blue chip players.

 

I'm not an Angelo fan, but the statements you've made have been ludicrous.

[cubbyvirus00]

so...picks that have outplayed or played up to their draft position:

Conte, Wright, Webb, Melton, Moore, Knox, Forte, Bennett, Steltz, Bowman, Davis, Olsen, Graham, Manning, Hester, Anderson

 

I'd argue Olsen didn't outplay or play up to his draft position, but he's been worth more than a damn.

 

Olsen is not a full time TE in this league and he in no way is comparable to the top TEs in the NFL. Hes arguably a second tier TE due to the fact that he cant do anything outside of pass catching.

 

I too am not blaming our drafting on yesterday's game or Cutler being hurt. I am blaming the drafting on the lack of depth on this team that is going to cripple us with the inevitable decline that is going to come with our top defensive players.

 

Even if the Bears made the playoffs, their chances to go all the way were very slim.