Trading Soriano

[CubsWin]

Well damn...

 

Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS

according to #cubs person, likely they start year with soriano in left field. should be in AL, but big $ to work out

 

assuming that #cubs person suggests someone in the Cubs front office, I'd take this with a grain of salt. He's not going to say no, Soriano will be gone at all costs-if nobody offers us anything we'll cut him and someone can have him for free.

Why would the Cubs cut Soriano? The money's spent. Might as well have a 1-2 WAR player on your team and wait for an injury to create a need at LF/DH for some team in the AL playoff hunt.

[Have a seat, Neifi]

His BABiP was .266 last season, way off his career average of .302. Keep him, hope he has a (relative for him) bounce-back first half, and then try again at the July trading deadline.

[Hawk4Hall]

I can't stand Soriano's contract (never liked it from day 1), but I am fine with the Cubs keeping him to start the season. In all honestly he's about the best offense the Cubs have in the OF. He is by no means worth his contract, but removing him from the team at this point takes away any power they have.

 

Soriano, when locked in, can be very productive. On the flip side, his slumps are black holes but the Cubs don't have much to work with right now.

 

Soriano should probably be a DH since he is so bad in the field but the Cubs just need to hope he starts strong so they can flip him later in the season.

[PrimeTime]

Baltimore is not gonna happen since it's real doubtful he waives his clause. Yankees have their DH spot open now so that could be a fit. Cubs are still willing to eat salary.

 

Soriano has no-trade rights, but said on Friday that he'd be open to a trade as long as it worked for him and his family.

 

"They can do whatever they want," Soriano said Friday at the Cubs Convention. "It has to be good for me and my family for me to agree (to a trade). I'm comfortable with the Cubs.

 

"I won't go to just any team. I want to be with a contender. I also want to be in the playoffs again. So I'd have to be comfortable with both the team and the city I get traded to."

 

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7463133/chicago-cubs-chairman-tom-ricketts-open-possibility-eating-salary

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Good teams don't want you, Al.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Well damn...

 

Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS

according to #cubs person, likely they start year with soriano in left field. should be in AL, but big $ to work out

 

assuming that #cubs person suggests someone in the Cubs front office, I'd take this with a grain of salt. He's not going to say no, Soriano will be gone at all costs-if nobody offers us anything we'll cut him and someone can have him for free.

Why would the Cubs cut Soriano? The money's spent. Might as well have a 1-2 WAR player on your team and wait for an injury to create a need at LF/DH for some team in the AL playoff hunt.

 

I don't think they would. I'm just saying that there's no reason for them to say anything but Soriano's like to be our LF next year.

[sneakypower]

Good teams don't want you, Al.

you don't know that, at all

[Castro13]

Baltimore is not gonna happen since it's real doubtful he waives his clause. Yankees have their DH spot open now so that could be a fit. Cubs are still willing to eat salary.

 

Soriano has no-trade rights, but said on Friday that he'd be open to a trade as long as it worked for him and his family.

 

"They can do whatever they want," Soriano said Friday at the Cubs Convention. "It has to be good for me and my family for me to agree (to a trade). I'm comfortable with the Cubs.

 

"I won't go to just any team. I want to be with a contender. I also want to be in the playoffs again. So I'd have to be comfortable with both the team and the city I get traded to."

 

http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7463133/chicago-cubs-chairman-tom-ricketts-open-possibility-eating-salary

They can do whatever they want....except trade me him to a noncontender and a place he isn't "comfortable" but other than that they can do whatever they want...

 

Got it Sori

[SouthSideRyan]

How do you think no trade clauses are supposed to work?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Good teams don't want you, Al.

you don't know that, at all

 

I checked with all the good teams. They said I'm right.

[Castro13]

How do you think no trade clauses are supposed to work?

 

I know how they work, so what is the point of saying "they can do whatever they want" when that isn't really the case?

[Clem Fandango]

Because he was just saying that as a figure of speech?

[bhogg]

It would be hard to believe that, given the Cubs public declaration that they don't want him, that he would veto a trade.

 

He'll make the same amount of money regardless of where he plays. He's not on a contender now. My guess is that he will go wherever they work out a deal for him.

[Little Slide Rooter]

It would be hard to believe that, given the Cubs public declaration that they don't want him, that he would veto a trade.

 

He'll make the same amount of money regardless of where he plays. He's not on a contender now. My guess is that he will go wherever they work out a deal for him.

 

That arguement often comes up with guys protected by NTCs. Some guys are simply happy where they are and would only move for a contender. Aramis must have had a pretty good idea that his time as a Cub was drawing to a close in July and then August, with his team I don't even want to remember how many games out of first and he wouldn't approve a trade. Even if the Cubs cut Soriano, he still makes that money, the difference being that contenders are then more likely to have interest in him for league minimum and giving up no prospects.

[Abe Frohman]

It would be hard to believe that, given the Cubs public declaration that they don't want him, that he would veto a trade.

 

He'll make the same amount of money regardless of where he plays. He's not on a contender now. My guess is that he will go wherever they work out a deal for him.

 

Well, he said that he is "comfortable in Chicago" meaning that he obviously doesn't mind being here - despite the strength of the team or where they rank in the standings.

[davearm2]

It would be interesting to know how a guy like Soriano would reconcile staying in a place he's comfortable, but knows he's not wanted, versus going to a place he'd rather not be, but that wants him.

 

It has to be hard coming to the ballpark every day after the team has tried to get rid of you, and you nixed it.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Yankees May Have Limited DH Funds

By Tim Dierkes [January 16 at 9:17am CST]

The Yankees are telling people they only have $1-2MM for their open designated hitter spot, tweets Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. Heyman feels that such a budget would take them out of the running for Carlos Pena and most likely Johnny Damon. According to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News, Yankees insiders said they haven't had time to fully consider DH options, having traded Jesus Montero so recently. Martino says the Yankees "won't spend lavishly" on a DH, especially with plenty of internal candidates for a potential timeshare.

 

Would trading Soriano and picking up that much salary in a deal with the Yanks, perhaps for Hughes be a likely option?

[Rob]

The Yankees aren't a fit. Andruw Jones is cheaper and more effective than Soriano at everything the Yankees might want to use Soriano for.

[Theo]

It would be probably much faster to list the teams that are a fit for Soriano.

[Post Count Padder]

Yankees May Have Limited DH Funds

By Tim Dierkes [January 16 at 9:17am CST]

The Yankees are telling people they only have $1-2MM for their open designated hitter spot, tweets Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. Heyman feels that such a budget would take them out of the running for Carlos Pena and most likely Johnny Damon. According to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News, Yankees insiders said they haven't had time to fully consider DH options, having traded Jesus Montero so recently. Martino says the Yankees "won't spend lavishly" on a DH, especially with plenty of internal candidates for a potential timeshare.

 

Would trading Soriano and picking up that much salary in a deal with the Yanks, perhaps for Hughes be a likely option?

Taking Hughes back, we'd have to pick up 16 mil per year of Sori's contract to make it worth their while. And at that point, is it worth it for us? They might insist on taking Burnett back.

 

And as Rob said, they have Andruw Jones. I guess they're not keen on making him DH. Would be smart for them to just find a cheap platoon partner for him and be done with it.

[Northside Blues]

I would jump all over Burnett for Soriano.Both guys make about the same, but I would think that Burnett would have a better chance to reestabish value and we could trade him for a prospect worth getting down the road.

[dew1679666265]

Yankees May Have Limited DH Funds

By Tim Dierkes [January 16 at 9:17am CST]

The Yankees are telling people they only have $1-2MM for their open designated hitter spot, tweets Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. Heyman feels that such a budget would take them out of the running for Carlos Pena and most likely Johnny Damon. According to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News, Yankees insiders said they haven't had time to fully consider DH options, having traded Jesus Montero so recently. Martino says the Yankees "won't spend lavishly" on a DH, especially with plenty of internal candidates for a potential timeshare.

 

Would trading Soriano and picking up that much salary in a deal with the Yanks, perhaps for Hughes be a likely option?

 

I think it'd be much more likely that we could sell them on Byrd to provide OF depth and then they could move Andruw Jones to DH.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Yankees May Have Limited DH Funds

By Tim Dierkes [January 16 at 9:17am CST]

The Yankees are telling people they only have $1-2MM for their open designated hitter spot, tweets Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. Heyman feels that such a budget would take them out of the running for Carlos Pena and most likely Johnny Damon. According to Andy Martino of the New York Daily News, Yankees insiders said they haven't had time to fully consider DH options, having traded Jesus Montero so recently. Martino says the Yankees "won't spend lavishly" on a DH, especially with plenty of internal candidates for a potential timeshare.

 

Would trading Soriano and picking up that much salary in a deal with the Yanks, perhaps for Hughes be a likely option?

 

I think it'd be much more likely that we could sell them on Byrd to provide OF depth and then they could move Andruw Jones to DH.

 

We could probably sell a lot of teams on Byrd and get a decent return however, he's probably more valuable if sold as a center fielder. Soriano is the one that they seem set on moving and eating a good amount of salary. I definitely think that if he isn't moved by spring training of next year he'll be given his walking papers unless he has a big rebound this year. I don't know what the Yankees expect to get for 2 mil or less, but I can't see it being much better than Soriano.

[toonsterwu]

Um, Andruw Jones is pretty much slated for part-time DH duty already. Gardner in LF, Granderson in CF, and Swisher in RF. Unless they move Swisher, those three should be the starting OF's entering the season.

 

I just don't see the Yankees taking a look at Soriano unless we eat the whole shebang. My guess is that they'll look to add a cheap lefty that mashes righties, pair him with Jones as a DH-platoon of sort, while occasionally rotating an older player like ARod there, at which point Jones may be utilized to give one of the OF's a day off.

 

Carlos Pena makes a ton of sense, but I do wonder if they'd prefer a more versatile guy on the bench, someone that could rotate in as depth for some of their aging options.

[UMFan83]

I read somewhere that the Yankees are only have around $1-2 mil for a potential DH, making an option like Pena or Soriano very unlikely.