bears game nine, lions at home at 3:15

[imb]

i would have guessed that you would have loved last night's snuff film.

 

i was wise enough to bench stafford this week, so i had no real interest.

[minnesotacubsfan]

and how in the hell does Briggs get a penalty for his hit on the Lions WR?

 

it was a bad call, but it really didn't matter that the refs called the penalty.

 

Only because it was already a blow out.

 

What I learned yesterday:

 

1. its ok to pull the opposing QB's helmet off if you have the reputation of being a thug.

2. its ok to tackle a guy by the helmet if you just threw your 3rd pick of the game.

3. its not ok to hit a wr with your shoulder pads if he's too stupid to pay attention to where he is on the field.

[mul21]

 

really, where were these absurd histrionics when Meriweather ran across the field to spear Burleson in the helmet after the play during the first meeting?

 

There's a huge difference between one idiot making a dumb play and a pattern of dirty plays exhibited by the Lions. Throw in the reputation that Schwartz is beginning to develop after the way the Titans used to play and how the Lions do now and there's an enormous gap between those two conversations.

[Magnetic Curses]

i would have guessed that you would have loved last night's snuff film.

 

i was wise enough to bench stafford this week, so i had no real interest.

 

i know calvin's like your favorite player, but even you've got to admire what happened to him over and over last night.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Suh is his favorite, just to be fair.

[Smack]

The commish has already had Suh into his office to talk about his play. I'm guessing this crap catches up to the Lions at some point.

 

The next guy who should be brought in is Schwartz. Because it's pretty clear to me this is ultimately coming from him.

...Schwartz was with Suh, and it was Suh who requested the meeting to get a better understanding behind a couple of his fines

 

also, lots of psychotic frothing on this page alone, good lord, people

 

people tend to get touchy when they see a team intentionally trying to injure their franchise quarterback.

 

it'll be easier for you to understand if/when your team gets one.

i wasn't able to see the 2nd half, but caught the high lowlights

 

was there anything besides the Fairley late hit (which really wasn't much of an attempt to injure)?

 

The Fairley hit wasn't an attempt to injure? That one was the cheapest and most egregious in my opinion. Late hit and he drove Cutler's body into the ground with all of his weight on top. That's how QBs get hurt all the time.

[minnesotacubsfan]

The Fairley hit wasn't an attempt to injure? That one was the cheapest and most egregious in my opinion. Late hit and he drove Cutler's body into the ground with all of his weight on top. That's how QBs get hurt all the time.

 

well, no, not in Detroit. see, he didnt have a gun, so no harm intended.

[sneakypower]

The Fairley hit wasn't an attempt to injure? That one was the cheapest and most egregious in my opinion. Late hit and he drove Cutler's body into the ground with all of his weight on top. That's how QBs get hurt all the time.

then every sack is an attempt to injure!

 

the Fairley play was way late, and the one dirty play i've seen from the game on our part, but attempt to injure seems like a major stretch

[Guest]

Oh come on, that Suh tackle wasn't remotely dirty. The Fairley sack, yes, Stafford's facemask slam, egregious. But both Suh's tackle and Peppers' strip were hard tackles just below the helmet.

 

 

 

 

watch it again, Suh takes cutlers helmet off with both hands.

Interested to see if TT watches this and still says it was clean.

[Magnetic Curses]

The Fairley hit wasn't an attempt to injure? That one was the cheapest and most egregious in my opinion. Late hit and he drove Cutler's body into the ground with all of his weight on top. That's how QBs get hurt all the time.

then every sack is an attempt to injure!

 

the Fairley play was way late, and the one dirty play i've seen from the game on our part, but attempt to injure seems like a major stretch

 

he thought that donkeykong would like him if he tried to hurt cutler. not hard to figure out.

[Smack]

The Fairley hit wasn't an attempt to injure? That one was the cheapest and most egregious in my opinion. Late hit and he drove Cutler's body into the ground with all of his weight on top. That's how QBs get hurt all the time.

then every sack is an attempt to injure!

 

the Fairley play was way late, and the one dirty play i've seen from the game on our part, but attempt to injure seems like a major stretch

 

I know you're just trying to defend your boys or whatever, but their is a specific rule against Fairley's type of hit.

 

"a defensive player must not unnecessarily or violently throw him down and land on top of him with all or most of the defender's weight."

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81c8823a/printable/leagues-official-player-safety-rules

 

They created the rule because that's how QBs were getting injured. It wasn't just a 'sack' attempt. It was an intentional and deliberate act designed to injure Cutler.

Edited November 14, 2011 by Smack

[Guest]

The Fairley hit wasn't an attempt to injure? That one was the cheapest and most egregious in my opinion. Late hit and he drove Cutler's body into the ground with all of his weight on top. That's how QBs get hurt all the time.

then every sack is an attempt to injure!

 

the Fairley play was way late, and the one dirty play i've seen from the game on our part, but attempt to injure seems like a major stretch

Apparently, you're in favor of grabbing the helmet and attempting to rip a guy's head off. Which two of your players did during the game.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Oh come on, that Suh tackle wasn't remotely dirty. The Fairley sack, yes, Stafford's facemask slam, egregious. But both Suh's tackle and Peppers' strip were hard tackles just below the helmet.

 

 

 

 

watch it again, Suh takes cutlers helmet off with both hands.

Interested to see if TT watches this and still says it was clean.

 

Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8

Impermissable Use of Helmet and Facemask

 

(j) any player who grabs a helmet opening of an opponent and forcibly twists, turns, or pulls his head.

 

 

I'm assuming that the opening in which your neck sticks out of the bottom of the helmet counts. I think thats a safe assumption, though.

[Magnetic Curses]

The Fairley hit wasn't an attempt to injure? That one was the cheapest and most egregious in my opinion. Late hit and he drove Cutler's body into the ground with all of his weight on top. That's how QBs get hurt all the time.

then every sack is an attempt to injure!

 

the Fairley play was way late, and the one dirty play i've seen from the game on our part, but attempt to injure seems like a major stretch

Apparently, you're in favor of grabbing the helmet and attempting to rip a guy's head off. Which two of your players did during the game.

 

and chop blocks, too

[TruffleShuffle]

Oh come on, that Suh tackle wasn't remotely dirty. The Fairley sack, yes, Stafford's facemask slam, egregious. But both Suh's tackle and Peppers' strip were hard tackles just below the helmet.

 

 

 

 

watch it again, Suh takes cutlers helmet off with both hands.

Interested to see if TT watches this and still says it was clean.

 

i'm neither a bears nor a lions fan and that really doesn't look like a big deal to me. he kind of gets cutler at the angle and as he's falling his hand comes up his back. i guess maybe he did it on purpose but it's hard to say. cutler should definitely fasten his helmet better though.

[Guest]

Oh come on, that Suh tackle wasn't remotely dirty. The Fairley sack, yes, Stafford's facemask slam, egregious. But both Suh's tackle and Peppers' strip were hard tackles just below the helmet.

 

 

 

 

watch it again, Suh takes cutlers helmet off with both hands.

Interested to see if TT watches this and still says it was clean.

 

Yes, I watched it live, watched the replay, and again now. Cutler ducks away as he goes down, which means Suh is left with grabbing and pulling at his helmet if he's going to attempt to tackle him. Maybe it should be flagged, but it's hardly malicious. Fairley went out of his way to finish the hit on Cutler the way we did. Stafford intentionally reached into the facemask so he could suplex Moore to the ground. Suh made a split second attempt to make a tackle after Cutler ducked him in an awkward way.

[Magnetic Curses]

he grabbed his helmet with 2 hands and ripped it off.

[woodchip2153]

Oh come on, that Suh tackle wasn't remotely dirty. The Fairley sack, yes, Stafford's facemask slam, egregious. But both Suh's tackle and Peppers' strip were hard tackles just below the helmet.

 

 

 

 

watch it again, Suh takes cutlers helmet off with both hands.

Interested to see if TT watches this and still says it was clean.

 

Yes, I watched it live, watched the replay, and again now. Cutler ducks away as he goes down, which means Suh is left with grabbing and pulling at his helmet if he's going to attempt to tackle him. Maybe it should be flagged, but it's hardly malicious. Fairley went out of his way to finish the hit on Cutler the way we did. Stafford intentionally reached into the facemask so he could suplex Moore to the ground. Suh made a split second attempt to make a tackle after Cutler ducked him in an awkward way.

 

It looks to me like Suh grabs Cutler's earhole before Cutler starts to duck and slide.

[tfarks]

He did not need to rip off his helmet to tackle him. That's called unnecessary. Cutler was already going down, was Suh trying to help him back up by pulling on his helmet?

[jersey cubs fan]

Yes, I watched it live, watched the replay, and again now. Cutler ducks away as he goes down, which means Suh is left with grabbing and pulling at his helmet if he's going to attempt to tackle him. Maybe it should be flagged, but it's hardly malicious.

 

You aren't very good at watching football.

 

It's not like the only choice he had was to grab something and pull it up. That is not a move used in making a tackle.

Edited November 14, 2011 by jersey cubs fan

[minnesotacubsfan]

Yes, I watched it live, watched the replay, and again now. Cutler ducks away as he goes down, which means Suh is left with grabbing and pulling at his helmet if he's going to attempt to tackle him. Maybe it should be flagged, but it's hardly malicious. Fairley went out of his way to finish the hit on Cutler the way we did. Stafford intentionally reached into the facemask so he could suplex Moore to the ground. Suh made a split second attempt to make a tackle after Cutler ducked him in an awkward way.

 

either you arent watching it, or your definition of "ducking" must include a players head being altered by another player pulling his head forward, which is what happened. forward to 39 seconds in, that looks nothing like Cutler "ducking" to avoid a tackle when Suhs hand is underneath Cutlers helmet

[Magnetic Curses]

there's a definite anti-bears alliance here spawned by bears fans on this board being easy to troll.

 

so whatever.

[sneakypower]

Apparently, you're in favor of grabbing the helmet and attempting to rip a guy's head off. Which two of your players did during the game.

 

and chop blocks, too

like i said, i didn't see those plays but i have a suspicion you may be quibbling a bit on the descriptions, considering a brief regrettable foray into the Bears game threads each week brings up countless sulleymon calls for fouls not being called (against only the opponent)

 

the impartial third party observers in this thread can rightly act as the voice of reason on these plays

[Guest]

What an amazing game. Yay Bears!

 

Chargers Oline is beat up pretty badly. Should be able to get to Rivers early and often. Double team Vincent Jackson, glue someone on Gates and then pound the line. The Chargers defense looked horrible against the Raiders, so the offense should be able to score pretty easily.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

the impartial third party observers in this thread can rightly act as the voice of reason on these plays

 

no they cant, not when they cant even understand the definition of the rule itself.