Joe Paterno

[Guest]

Why in the world would his attorney or him agree to do this again?

 

There was a link going around last night that his attorney impregnated(and later married) a 17 year old when he was 49.

[gus_dog]

I apologize if this has already been posted. This is an excellent article.

 

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7233704/the-brutal-truth-penn-state

[gus_dog]

and no, he did not deserve to be slapped or have beer thrown on him or have his signs thrown on the ground. but if you're going to make a sign saying that the entire football program knew that sandusky was a child molester, yes you should expect to be verbally abused.

 

The truth hurts, and boys will be boys, eh?

[jersey cubs fan]

New report is that McQueary actually DID break up the incident he witnessed in 2002.

 

of course he did. i can't believe people actually thought he really just saw it and walked away, allowing it to continue. i assumed he either stopped it or sandusky saw him and stopped.

 

The report is that McQueary sent an email to his former teammates saying he made sure it was over before he turn and ran away. He didn't tell the grand jury that, and the most likely scenario is that when they locked eyes, everybody froze. But if all the old man did was pull out before McQueary ran, he has no way of knowing if it stopped. He didn't break up anything, he merely interrupted.

[MWV]

Why in the world would his attorney or him agree to do this again?

 

There was a link going around last night that his attorney impregnated(and later married) a 17 year old when he was 49.

According to this source, she was actually 16 (and he 49) when she was impregnated. He married her at 17.

Honorable guy.

[TruffleShuffle]

and no, he did not deserve to be slapped or have beer thrown on him or have his signs thrown on the ground. but if you're going to make a sign saying that the entire football program knew that sandusky was a child molester, yes you should expect to be verbally abused.

 

The truth hurts, and boys will be boys, eh?

 

Please present your evidence that everyone in the football program new that Sandusky was a pedophile, Gus.

[jersey cubs fan]

and no, he did not deserve to be slapped or have beer thrown on him or have his signs thrown on the ground. but if you're going to make a sign saying that the entire football program knew that sandusky was a child molester, yes you should expect to be verbally abused.

 

The truth hurts, and boys will be boys, eh?

 

Please present your evidence that everyone in the football program new that Sandusky was a pedophile, Gus.

 

I would say it's safe to say that everybody didn't know, but that several people did, and that is more than just McQueary and Paterno.

[gus_dog]

and no, he did not deserve to be slapped or have beer thrown on him or have his signs thrown on the ground. but if you're going to make a sign saying that the entire football program knew that sandusky was a child molester, yes you should expect to be verbally abused.

 

The truth hurts, and boys will be boys, eh?

 

Please present your evidence that everyone in the football program new that Sandusky was a pedophile, Gus.

 

I never said "everyone" *new* (sic), however, it is obvious that enough of the people who were in a position to take corrective action did know, and failed miserably in performing their obligations, as well as being decent human beings.

 

I do not think that it is far-fetched to say that there most certainly was a knowledge & rumours throughout the department.

 

Sure, innuendo is not enough to infer guilt, I will agree with that, but folks berating the sign-holder & abusing him does not bolster a case for sympathy for these guys. It just makes them look bad, IMHO.

[rocket]

isn't the fact that sandusky stopped coaching in his mid 50's, and NO ONE wanted to hire him, a pretty good indicator that the rumors were always there in college football circles that sandusky was a creepy pedophile

[jersey cubs fan]

isn't the fact that sandusky stopped coaching in his mid 50's, and NO ONE wanted to hire him, a pretty good indicator that the rumors were always there in college football circles that sandusky was a creepy pedophile

 

That's what the crazy Pittsburgh writer said in his April column back when nobody was talking about the situation (and PSU was still granting access to Sandusky).

[SouthSideRyan]

isn't the fact that sandusky stopped coaching in his mid 50's, and NO ONE wanted to hire him, a pretty good indicator that the rumors were always there in college football circles that sandusky was a creepy pedophile

 

He was close to taking the Virginia job back in December 2000, but ultimately decided it interfered too much with his molesting.

 

“I’m a very complex person,” he told White. “I couldn’t deny the importance of Second Mile in my life. I could have played a game and said I was something different than I am, but that’s not me.”

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/jerry-sandusky-maryland-and-virginia/2011/11/10/gIQAdvI18M_blog.html

[abuck1220]

New report is that McQueary actually DID break up the incident he witnessed in 2002.

 

of course he did. i can't believe people actually thought he really just saw it and walked away, allowing it to continue. i assumed he either stopped it or sandusky saw him and stopped.

 

The report is that McQueary sent an email to his former teammates saying he made sure it was over before he turn and ran away. He didn't tell the grand jury that, and the most likely scenario is that when they locked eyes, everybody froze. But if all the old man did was pull out before McQueary ran, he has no way of knowing if it stopped. He didn't break up anything, he merely interrupted.

 

i highly doubt that sandusky would just carry on with his raping after someone saw him raping and then left. come on.

[SouthSideRyan]

i highly doubt that sandusky would just carry on with his raping after someone saw him raping and then left. come on.

 

Would you expect him to carry on bringing children to campus in plain view of the guy who saw him rape a child?

[jersey cubs fan]

i highly doubt that sandusky would just carry on with his raping after someone saw him raping and then left. come on.

 

Because rapists never continue their act despite the danger of being caught? I'm not sure why you'd highly doubt the ability of a child rapist to act irrationally, especially while in the act of raping. The fact is, every indication is that all McQueary knew was that the act was interrupted, not ended. He didn't make sure it ended unless he waited around to see the kid dress and leave, physically seperated the two and/or immediately called authorities. Seeing them pause, while in the act, then leaving does not give McQueary any knowledge of what happened next. If he made sure it was over before leaving, why wasn't that in his grand jury testimony?

[abuck1220]

i highly doubt that sandusky would just carry on with his raping after someone saw him raping and then left. come on.

 

Would you expect him to carry on bringing children to campus in plain view of the guy who saw him rape a child?

 

no, but that's different. i would assume after being busted raping a kid by someone who then leaves the scene, he would probably think, "i better stop raping this kid in case that guy that just ran off goes and gets help/the cops/angry mob," as opposed to "welp, back to this raping i was in the middle of."

[jersey cubs fan]

i highly doubt that sandusky would just carry on with his raping after someone saw him raping and then left. come on.

 

Would you expect him to carry on bringing children to campus in plain view of the guy who saw him rape a child?

 

no, but that's different. i would assume after being busted raping a kid by someone who then leaves the scene, he would probably think, "i better stop raping this kid in case that guy that just ran off goes and gets help/the cops/angry mob," as opposed to "welp, back to this raping i was in the middle of."

 

maybe that depends on how close he was to finishing.

[abuck1220]

i highly doubt that sandusky would just carry on with his raping after someone saw him raping and then left. come on.

 

Because rapists never continue their act despite the danger of being caught? I'm not sure why you'd highly doubt the ability of a child rapist to act irrationally, especially while in the act of raping. The fact is, every indication is that all McQueary knew was that the act was interrupted, not ended. He didn't make sure it ended unless he waited around to see the kid dress and leave, physically seperated the two and/or immediately called authorities. Seeing them pause, while in the act, then leaving does not give McQueary any knowledge of what happened next. If he made sure it was over before leaving, why wasn't that in his grand jury testimony?

 

you're right about not assuming a crazy child rapist would act rationally (especially after hearing that interview). i guess i just always assumed it was somehow stopped either by sandusky not wanting a swarm of cops to come in and see him in the actual act of anally raping a child or by mcqueary being like "hey, you should stop raping that kid."

 

that's why i don't get why this news about how this particular rape was stopped is surprising to people. i always assumed it was.

[jersey cubs fan]

that's why i don't get why this news about how this particular rape was stopped is surprising to people. i always assumed it was.

 

The new "news" only comes from an email McQueary sent to his former teammates, essentially defending his honor. The report gives no indication of McQueary making any effort to stop the act beyond the obvious pause in the action that occured when everybody locked eyes, and before he ran away.

[Magnetic Curses]

mcqueary is probably just covering his own ass. if he witnessed a child rape and didn't stop it, he'd most likely be subject to some jail time as well at least one can hope.

 

hey mcqueary, how about smashing in the skull of an old man? would that be too much to ask?

[Derwood]

mcqueary is probably just covering his own ass. if he witnessed a child rape and didn't stop it, he'd most likely be subject to some jail time as well at least one can hope.

 

hey mcqueary, how about smashing in the skull of an old man? would that be too much to ask?

 

He's a ginger, what more can you ask for?

[treebird]

hey mcqueary, how about smashing in the skull of an old man? would that be too much to ask?

 

a lotttttt of people in state college have to be thinking that right now. there are obviously a lot of points at which a small change in someone's behavior could've changed everything, but this is probably the easiest one.

[erik316wttn]

New report is that McQueary actually DID break up the incident he witnessed in 2002.

 

of course he did. i can't believe people actually thought he really just saw it and walked away, allowing it to continue. i assumed he either stopped it or sandusky saw him and stopped.

 

The report is that McQueary sent an email to his former teammates saying he made sure it was over before he turn and ran away. He didn't tell the grand jury that, and the most likely scenario is that when they locked eyes, everybody froze. But if all the old man did was pull out before McQueary ran, he has no way of knowing if it stopped. He didn't break up anything, he merely interrupted.

 

i highly doubt that sandusky would just carry on with his raping after someone saw him raping and then left. come on.

 

Yeah, but if you're ballsy enough (no pun intended) to bring a child to your place of employment and rape him in an area accessible to all of your co-workers, who knows what else you're capable of?

[jersey cubs fan]

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7237091/cal-ripken-jr-ex-baltimore-orioles-great-visits-japanese-kids-affected-tsunami

 

NOW IT'S AN INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT!!!!

[SpongeWorthy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/joseph-amendola-jerry-sandusky-impregnated-teen_n_1095005.html

 

Sandusy's attorney impregnated a 17 year old girl

[jersey cubs fan]

from the deadspin funbag:

By the way, I wish columnists would stop emphasizing that victims of Jerry Sandusky are essentially leading ruined lives. Imagine being victimized by that piece of [expletive] and then reading all over the place that you have virtually no hope of leading a normal life. If you've ever been a victim of abuse, you need reassurance that your life HAS NOT been destroyed. Instead, it seems like columnists have gone out of their way to try and emphasize how emotionally damaged these people will be now, as if you didn't already know that being raped is a traumatic event. It's not helping. Craggs described it as, "Moral showboating... the 'I'm more against child abuse than you' [expletive]... it's 'I pity the children more than you.'" EXACLTY. I don't need your help to see the ugly truth of it all, Lupica. The grand jury report did the trick quite nicely.

 

I've been meaning to say something like this as well. It's one thing to discuss amongst your friends how much your life would be screwed up if this happened, but these writers who keep talking about the miserable lives all of the victims must now have have gone overboard. I think half of them would be disappointed to learn that several of the guys have adjusted to life post-rape.