Joe Paterno

[Laura]

B&B just read a news article quoting a Penn State recruit saying Sandusky paid him a recruiting visit as a Penn State football rep this past spring.

[SouthSideRyan]

http://deadspin.com/5858414/10-things-that-are-still-happy-about-happy-valley

 

Deadspin tries to get past the recent string of bad news by listing some still happy things about happy valley.

 

5. The Local Weather Reports Must Be Very Accurate Because AccuWeather Is Based There

According to AccuWeather, the company's State College headquarters are "home to the greatest number of forecast meteorologists in one location anywhere in the world." If it's going to rain in Happy Valley, you will definitely be made aware of it beforehand, and you can plan ahead and bring an umbrella.

 

Finally the logic behind Truffle's argument revealed.

Edited November 11, 2011 by SouthSideRyan

[SouthSideRyan]

B&B just read a news article quoting a Penn State recruit saying Sandusky paid him a recruiting visit as a Penn State football rep this past spring.

 

HO-LEE [expletive]

[Prizefight]

B&B just read a news article quoting a Penn State recruit saying Sandusky paid him a recruiting visit as a Penn State football rep this past spring.

 

 

Gee, I wonder who authorized him on recruiting trips? This story gets worse every single day

[Laura]

Here's the link to the B&B writeup, which contains another link to the original MSNBC article:

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/11/sandusky-recuited-hs-players-this-season/

[jersey cubs fan]

“He came to my last spring game going into my senior season. He liked how I moved, laterally, and how gifted I am,” said Ah Ching, ranked last year by ESPNU as the 26th linebacker prospect in the country.

[treebird]

on the plus side, now that big ten is back to an odd number, we can just add texas without having to wait for notre dame to decide they want in

[SouthSideRyan]

“He came to my last spring game going into my senior season. He liked how I moved, laterally, and how gifted I am,” said Ah Ching, ranked last year by ESPNU as the 26th linebacker prospect in the country.

 

Oh very funny fake name, I don't have time for this.

[SouthSideRyan]

“He came to my last spring game going into my senior season. He liked how I moved, laterally, and how gifted I am,” said Ah Ching, ranked last year by ESPNU as the 26th linebacker prospect in the country.

 

Oh very funny fake name, I don't have time for this.

 

Oh you were talking about Ahberto Jose Ching.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm going to go ahead and assume the kid is referring to McQueary. His face has been in the news as much as Sandusky. There's no way he was going out on recruiting trips.

[imb]

“He came to my last spring game going into my senior season. He liked how I moved, laterally, and how gifted I am,” said Ah Ching, ranked last year by ESPNU as the 26th linebacker prospect in the country.

 

Oh very funny fake name, I don't have time for this.

 

Was he sure it was even Sandusky? God knows they're squinters.

[wolf stansson]

“He came to my last spring game going into my senior season. He liked how I moved, laterally, and how gifted I am,” said Ah Ching, ranked last year by ESPNU as the 26th linebacker prospect in the country.

 

Oh very funny fake name, I don't have time for this.

 

Was he sure it was even Sandusky? God knows they're squinters.

laughs, tugs collar, makes goooo noise.

[gus_dog]

I am lost on how they can play out this season. It kind of trivializes the victims' suffering, if you ask me. JMHO.

[Tracer Bullet]

I am lost on how they can play out this season. It kind of trivializes the victims' suffering, if you ask me. JMHO.

Wha?

[EhDubya]

B&B just read a news article a Penn State recruit saying Sandusky paid him a recruiting visit as a Penn State football rep this past spring.

 

 

Gee, I wonder who authorized him on recruiting trips? This story gets worse every single day

 

Guys, calm down and wait for the facts. This kid wasn't recruited by Penn State.

[Guest]

I am lost on how they can play out this season. It kind of trivializes the victims' suffering, if you ask me. JMHO.

 

The victim families have come out publicly asking them to play out the season and for everyone to be supportive. They are afraid that if the season is canceled that other victims that have not come forward yet won't do so for fear of the repercussions.

[Laura]

I am lost on how they can play out this season. It kind of trivializes the victims' suffering, if you ask me. JMHO.

 

The victim families have come out publicly asking them to play out the season and for everyone to be supportive. They are afraid that if the season is canceled that other victims that have not come forward yet won't do so for fear of the repercussions.

 

More sadness, since fear of repercussions is what kept this a well-known secret for over a decade.

[Derwood]

The true head scratcher is how a major university thought that that they could simply sweep a bunch of child rape under the rug without anyone noticing. That they have gotten away with it for this long is asinine.

 

Something Franceca said was about how so many people at Penn State are all about Penn State and have always been at Penn State. Unlike many schools that strive for blending outsiders into their system to bring many viewpoints, Penn Staters are all proud about how many of them have always been Penn Staters and always will be. They take pride in their insularity. I'm guessing people who have always had full control of their little island don't think too much about how things can't always be contained.

 

I never got that impression in all the years I lived there, but then again, I never worked for the University

[Derwood]

The true head scratcher is how a major university thought that that they could simply sweep a bunch of child rape under the rug without anyone noticing. That they have gotten away with it for this long is asinine.

 

How did Bernie Madoff think he was going to get away with what he was doing? It starts by making really bad decisions, and then compounds over time until you're in completely over your head

[Laura]

I'm going to go ahead and assume the kid is referring to McQueary. His face has been in the news as much as Sandusky. There's no way he was going out on recruiting trips.

 

Maybe, though the kid said he met him, and it wouldn't be easy to confuse McQueary with Sandusky.

 

Oh, and the kid's father said that Sandusky attended a football camp in Utah last summer on behalf of Penn State:

 

PITTSBURGH — Former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky remained as a de facto recruiter for the Nittany Lions as late as last summer.

 

The father of a South Carolina high school player says Sandusky attended a Football camp for players of Polynesian descent in Utah last year and encouraged players to play for coach Joe Paterno. Sandusky made the trip even as a grand jury investigated claims of sexual abuse by the former coach. Sandusky is now charged with molesting eight boys over a 15-year period.

 

http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/cf41bcd0e3a148acae41ff5e5ee497c8/FBC--Penn-State-Recruiting/

[TruffleShuffle]

Pretty damning story for any JoePa/coaching staff apologists still out there:

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html

 

 

Instead of taking action to stop what he was watching, McQueary testified that he left immediately and told his father. The next morning, McQueary said, they went to see Paterno.

 

And what did McQueary say?

 

We don’t know. The grand jury presentment that has been given to the public, simply says that McQueary “reported what he had seen.”

 

According to Paterno’s testimony, McQueary told the coach he had witnessed Sandusky “fondling or doing something of a sexual nature” to the boy.

 

Two days after the report was released, Paterno issued a statement saying he wanted to correct the impression left by the presentment.

 

Even though Paterno himself had told the grand jury that McQueary saw “something of a sexual nature,” Paterno said this week that he had stopped the conversation before it got too graphic. Instead, he told McQueary he would need to speak with his superior, Athletic Director Tim Curley, and with Schultz.

 

That meeting did not happen for 10 days.

 

Not really, there's almost no new info in this story. It's an excellent summary and this newspaper is one of the few that has journalistically done a good job with the story, but almost all of this stuff was reported previously.

 

completely honest question: is there any sort of penn state blog or message board that you are following that has the same mindset as you? a lot of your arguments are very similar to those being made by a penn state alum friend of mine (those yours are way watered down versions of his, he is "losing his mind" angry about this). i was just wondering if there was something out there that you might both be reading.

 

No, I don't post on or read any PSU message boards or blogs. The most PSU "propaganda" that I get is from other PSU grads on Facebook.

[TruffleShuffle]

Pretty damning story for any JoePa/coaching staff apologists still out there:

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html

 

 

Instead of taking action to stop what he was watching, McQueary testified that he left immediately and told his father. The next morning, McQueary said, they went to see Paterno.

 

And what did McQueary say?

 

We don’t know. The grand jury presentment that has been given to the public, simply says that McQueary “reported what he had seen.”

 

According to Paterno’s testimony, McQueary told the coach he had witnessed Sandusky “fondling or doing something of a sexual nature” to the boy.

 

Two days after the report was released, Paterno issued a statement saying he wanted to correct the impression left by the presentment.

 

Even though Paterno himself had told the grand jury that McQueary saw “something of a sexual nature,” Paterno said this week that he had stopped the conversation before it got too graphic. Instead, he told McQueary he would need to speak with his superior, Athletic Director Tim Curley, and with Schultz.

 

That meeting did not happen for 10 days.

 

Not really, there's almost no new info in this story. It's an excellent summary and this newspaper is one of the few that has journalistically done a good job with the story, but almost all of this stuff was reported previously.

I meant it was damning in the sense that, if you're still a JoePa apologist after reading, you're an idiot

 

Define "JoePa apologist"

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm going to go ahead and assume the kid is referring to McQueary. His face has been in the news as much as Sandusky. There's no way he was going out on recruiting trips.

 

Maybe, though the kid said he met him, and it wouldn't be easy to confuse McQueary with Sandusky.

 

Oh, and the kid's father said that Sandusky attended a football camp in Utah last summer on behalf of Penn State:

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Deadspin seems to think it is false.

[Laura]

Hopefully, they're right, because the alternative is ridiculous.

[glavine93]

i did a field study tonight and it turns out the idiot crowd is way more pro-penn state/paterno than I anticipated.