Re: New GM/Cubs Future News Articles

[C.C.]

This may very well turn out to be the saddest day of my life.

 

The price of CUBS tickets is going to skyrocket, effectively freezing me out and leaving me sitting in the VWR scratching my head. My only real chance to see a CUBS game in person will be to meet up with my nephew in Atlanta for the CUBS series over the 4th of July with a THI of 112 !!! Sitting home watching them on TV won't be much of a consolation either, since the game threads will be up in the hundreds of pages. It will become impossible to read the whole thread and actually watch the game, too. Let alone adding in any PBP schtick. Then, come Labor Day, when the CUBS have clinched the division, you know the Good Lord is going to call me home. [sigh]

 

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/Hornkohl/TheEnd.jpg

 

 

Go CUBS !!!

 

 

 

p.s. Only 124 more days 'til pitchers and catchers report !

:good:

 

Skyrocket? Because we hired a GM? Not likely.

[SouthSideRyan]

I want DeRo back. I don't care if he's sorta old and bad now.

 

I want Gracie back. I don't care if he's a creepy old chain smoking guy still hitting on 19 year old girls.

 

I want Gracie backed over. By an 18 wheeler

[Guest]

 

Skyrocket? Because we hired a GM? Not likely.

 

 

Because we're going to be winning 95 games every year.

[Ski]

Should I read Baseball Between the Numbers or The Book - Playing the Percentages in Baseball?

 

EDIT - Or maybe The Extra 2%?

I found The Book to be a bit bland, although with useful graphs. Granted, it is mainly math focused, but unless you found a particular baseball topic to be interesting in the first place (platooning, when to bunt, etc), it won't make you more interested. Very cut and dry.

[RammyFanny]

Cubs Randy Bush and Red Sox AGM Ben Cherington negotiating compensation. Both ownerships overseeing process. MLB must approve

Kaplan

[SouthSideRyan]

How awkward is it that Bush is negotiating to bring over the guy who'll probably can his ass.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I want DeRo back. I don't care if he's sorta old and bad now.

 

I want Gracie back. I don't care if he's a creepy old chain smoking guy still hitting on 19 year old girls.

 

I want Gracie backed over. By an 18 wheeler

 

FRED, A LITTLE HELP HERE

[Flames24Rulz]

Cubs Randy Bush and Red Sox AGM Ben Cherington negotiating compensation. Both ownerships overseeing process. MLB must approve

Kaplan

 

How about Cherington for Bush? Seems fair.

[Guest]

Should I read Baseball Between the Numbers or The Book - Playing the Percentages in Baseball?

 

EDIT - Or maybe The Extra 2%?

I found The Book to be a bit bland, although with useful graphs. Granted, it is mainly math focused, but unless you found a particular baseball topic to be interesting in the first place (platooning, when to bunt, etc), it won't make you more interested. Very cut and dry.

 

 

Yea. I do find those things interesting but I don't know that I could get through an entire book about it. Sounds more like a reference type.

 

I'll just check out The Extra 2%.

[UMFan83]

How awkward is it that Bush is negotiating to bring over the guy who'll probably can his ass.

 

Cherington has a vested interest in making sure that talks don't hit a snag here because once it's done he's likely the new Red Sox GM. Meanwhile, Bush probably thinks he's canned and might become a disgruntled employee and give them Starlin.

[CUBZ99]

Cubs Randy Bush and Red Sox AGM Ben Cherington negotiating compensation. Both ownerships overseeing process. MLB must approve

Kaplan

 

Cubs are going to get hosed.

[KingCubsFan]

Cubs Randy Bush and Red Sox AGM Ben Cherington negotiating compensation. Both ownerships overseeing process. MLB must approve

Kaplan

Looks like it's players then. This could end badly. After reading that SI article, it sounds like the Red Sox know more about our prospects then we do.

[Fred Hornkohl]

I want DeRo back. I don't care if he's sorta old and bad now.

 

I want Gracie back. I don't care if he's a creepy old chain smoking guy still hitting on 19 year old girls.

 

I want Gracie backed over. By an 18 wheeler

 

FRED, A LITTLE HELP HERE

 

I really can't be of any help on this one. My insurance guy has absolutely no sense of humor !!!

[Ski]

Should I read Baseball Between the Numbers or The Book - Playing the Percentages in Baseball?

 

EDIT - Or maybe The Extra 2%?

I found The Book to be a bit bland, although with useful graphs. Granted, it is mainly math focused, but unless you found a particular baseball topic to be interesting in the first place (platooning, when to bunt, etc), it won't make you more interested. Very cut and dry.

 

 

Yea. I do find those things interesting but I don't know that I could get through an entire book about it. Sounds more like a reference type.

 

I'll just check out The Extra 2%.

The author just doesn't put much effort into making the subject matter interesting. Which is fine, gives him a focus, it just isn't for me. I do which he would elaborate a bit more on the math he IS doing, since I am a math major and I much prefer working out the math myself than read someone skim over it.

 

Baseball Between the Number is excellent. Currently reading through it for my third time.

 

Do you happen to know of any books that focus on the elaborate numbers behind these stats? Rather than a "popular" version of it?

[Guest]

@KenTremendous: Congratulations to Theo and the 2014 World Champion Chicago Cubs. Congrats to whomever gets Francona. A pox on everyone who drove them away.

[Laura]

Nice writeup by Jeff Passan, who looks at the plus side for Theo & for the Cubs. I think he's tweeted most of these thoughts over the past several hours as well.

 

He will overhaul the scouting and player-development departments that have dried up the Cubs’ farm system. He will help implement the statistical databases that helped fuel the Red Sox’s ascent and that, along with Epstein’s scouting acumen, made him the Platonic ideal of GMness for Ricketts.

 

Less than a week ago, Epstein was telling friends that he was likely to stay in Boston. In that time, something happened and the best marriage of a GM and team in the game – the hometown boy who had brought so much to the franchise that needed it – dissolved quickly. The Red Sox may not regret it. Chances are that even without Epstein they’ll continue to win. With baseball’s systemic inequity, it takes only a good GM to do so in Boston.

 

Greatness, meanwhile, heads to Chicago, where the Cubs begin anew their ascent. Epstein has an excellent young shortstop in Starlin Castro(notes), and he’ll find stat nerds and a manager and scouts and a pitching coach. And from there the franchise that should be among the best annually will begin to take shape, just like the Boston Red Sox did when they handed their reins to a 28-year-old. Epstein is now older, wiser and better, the sort of commodity that can – and will – change everything.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Nice writeup by Jeff Passan, who looks at the plus side for Theo & for the Cubs. I think he's tweeted most of these thoughts over the past several hours as well.

 

He will overhaul the scouting and player-development departments that have dried up the Cubs’ farm system. He will help implement the statistical databases that helped fuel the Red Sox’s ascent and that, along with Epstein’s scouting acumen, made him the Platonic ideal of GMness for Ricketts.

 

Greatness, meanwhile, heads to Chicago, where the Cubs begin anew their ascent. Epstein has an excellent young shortstop in Starlin Castro(notes), and he’ll find stat nerds and a manager and scouts and a pitching coach. And from there the franchise that should be among the best annually will begin to take shape, just like the Boston Red Sox did when they handed their reins to a 28-year-old. Epstein is now older, wiser and better, the sort of commodity that can – and will – change everything.

 

It's so beautiful.

 

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[Guest]

Nice writeup by Jeff Passan, who looks at the plus side for Theo & for the Cubs. I think he's tweeted most of these thoughts over the past several hours as well.

 

He will overhaul the scouting and player-development departments that have dried up the Cubs’ farm system. He will help implement the statistical databases that helped fuel the Red Sox’s ascent and that, along with Epstein’s scouting acumen, made him the Platonic ideal of GMness for Ricketts.

 

Less than a week ago, Epstein was telling friends that he was likely to stay in Boston. In that time, something happened and the best marriage of a GM and team in the game – the hometown boy who had brought so much to the franchise that needed it – dissolved quickly. The Red Sox may not regret it. Chances are that even without Epstein they’ll continue to win. With baseball’s systemic inequity, it takes only a good GM to do so in Boston.

 

Greatness, meanwhile, heads to Chicago, where the Cubs begin anew their ascent. Epstein has an excellent young shortstop in Starlin Castro(notes), and he’ll find stat nerds and a manager and scouts and a pitching coach. And from there the franchise that should be among the best annually will begin to take shape, just like the Boston Red Sox did when they handed their reins to a 28-year-old. Epstein is now older, wiser and better, the sort of commodity that can – and will – change everything.

My compass is pointing north and my underwear are a little moist.

[UMFan83]

Dude NSFW tags please. Now I have to explain to my coworkers why I have a giant wet spot in the front of my pants.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Cubs Randy Bush and Red Sox AGM Ben Cherington negotiating compensation. Both ownerships overseeing process. MLB must approve

Kaplan

 

How about Cherington for Bush? Seems fair.

 

10/13/2011: Randy Bush agrees to send Brett Jackson, Trey McNutt, and Matt Szczur to the Red Sox as compensation

10/14/2011: Ben Cherington officially named New Red Sox GM

10/15/2100: Ben Cherington names Randy Bush his assistant GM.

[ArizonaGM]

Cubs Randy Bush and Red Sox AGM Ben Cherington negotiating compensation. Both ownerships overseeing process. MLB must approve

Kaplan

 

Cubs are going to get hosed.

 

I imagine that the compensation won't be a top prospect like all these talking heads keep mentioning. What little leverage the Sox had dissipated when Theo agreed to the contract and got thrown under the bus a little bit this morning in the paper. Besides there is no Apples to Apples precedence for this so this is a negotiation where the Cubs have a little bit more control than the opposition. I'm sure there are some players that the Cubs organization undervalue that Cherington will find however.

[Soul]

This is such a great day. Nothing can ruin it!

[ctcf]

I suppose the one thing I learned over the last couple days is that NSBBer's generally express themselves via their penises.

[Vinestal]

Someone was posting earlier that Jay Jackson + money would be the compensation. I believe the Cubs were about to have to make a roster decision with Jackson don't they have to add him to the 40 man soon or had they already done that?

[Omar]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/epstein_accepts.html

The Red Sox will receive compensation from the Cubs in the form of cash or minor league prospects. Epstein and the Red Sox also have discussed what staff members he would be allowed to take with him to the Cubs.

 

Epstein's contract with the Red Sox ran through the 2012 season. But owner John Henry did not stand in the way of his seeking a promotion when Epstein made it clear that he preferred to leave. There is still a slim chance that Epstein could have a change of heart and elect to stay with the Sox. But one source the process is so far along now that a reversal is unlikely.

 

Epstein's top assistant, Ben Cherington, has been operating as the de facto general manager for several weeks and is expected to swiftly be named as his replacement.