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Theo and Hoyer are likely making decisions as a collective braintrust. It just hurts people's feelings that a "smart guy" didn't share their outlook on how to conduct the offseason.

I don't sense that people have their feelings hurt so much that they're absolutely dead set that their viewpoint is right, and every other viewpoint is wrong.

 

 

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i really don't see how giving ssr an aneurysm isn't a b&able offense.

 

DO YOUR DUTY, MODS

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I have to imagine this is more The Red Sox wanting something exorbitant than it is The Cubs not wanting to give compensation or not offering something fair (money and/or an A ball player) that they are so far apart on an agreement that Bud needs to get involved. Either that or Theo and Jed just hate Lucchino so much that they aren't offering much at all and not budging from it. Whatever the outcome I'd be upset if we had to give up more than a couple hundred thousand dollars and/or a low level (and limited) prospect.
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I have to imagine this is more The Red Sox wanting something exorbitant than it is The Cubs not wanting to give compensation or not offering something fair (money and/or an A ball player) that they are so far apart on an agreement that Bud needs to get involved. Either that or Theo and Jed just hate Lucchino so much that they aren't offering much at all and not budging from it. Whatever the outcome I'd be upset if we had to give up more than a couple hundred thousand dollars and/or a low level (and limited) prospect.

 

My guess is that the Red Sox want to be able to say Selig screwed them rather than accept what they deserved on their own.

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part of me believes that yeah, this is just a play to deflect the backlash for getting basically nothing in return for THEO. however, luccino, by all of the third- and fourth-hand accounts i have ever witnessed, is the kind of maniac that would actually persist on trying to get a baseball player of significant value despite lacking any real claim to one. his pride is on the line here. what a kick in the pills for him, letting THEO walk with the thought that he had the leverage to pull in a castro or garza in return, only to end up with a 28-year old minor leaguer and the three cans of cookie dough hendry left in the office fridge
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I don't think fans of both sides care much anymore. I gotta think they could just keep saying they are slowly negotiating for the rest of history and fans would just be 'meh'. I'm sure Sox fans are more interested in this than we are but from looking at their board, they are sick of it too and resigned to return being minimal.
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I think Selig SHOULD take into account, that the new CBA certainly keeps Theo's actual value down somewhat. And, he was in the last year of his deal as well. When he could have left on his own anyway. It's Lucchino's fault that he didn't talk compensation previous to allowing us to talk with him.
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Looks like they've turned Theo's "Baseball is better..." thing from his PC into an ad campaign.

 

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I forgot where else I saw it, but they used it elsewhere recently.

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Looks like they've turned Theo's "Baseball is better..." thing from his PC into an ad campaign.

 

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I forgot where else I saw it, but they used it elsewhere recently.

 

I just saw a baseball is better in the day ad somewhere

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Take it for what it's worth, but an AL GM not affiliated with the Red Sox expects Bud Selig to grant the Sox "significant" player compensation for Theo in order to deter future movement of executives who have time left on their contracts.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/cafardo-on-dodgers-ethier-red-sox-cubs-orioles.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

That might as well have read "Someone with no knowledge of the subject makes an uneducated guess."

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Take it for what it's worth, but an AL GM not affiliated with the Red Sox expects Bud Selig to grant the Sox "significant" player compensation for Theo in order to deter future movement of executives who have time left on their contracts.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/cafardo-on-dodgers-ethier-red-sox-cubs-orioles.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

That might as well have read "Someone with an agenda on the subject makes an uneducated guess."

 

FIFY

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Take it for what it's worth, but an AL GM not affiliated with the Red Sox expects Bud Selig to grant the Sox "significant" player compensation for Theo in order to deter future movement of executives who have time left on their contracts.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/cafardo-on-dodgers-ethier-red-sox-cubs-orioles.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

That might as well have read "Someone with an agenda on the subject makes an uneducated guess."

 

FIFY

 

The reasoning is so ridiculous because if Selig wants to stop executives with time left on their contract from leaving all he has to do is tell the teams with those executives to not give them permission to leave. Seems that everyone arguing the "major compensation is due" angle completely misses the point that if the RedSox wanted him to honor the contract they just had to tell Rickets he couldn't meet with Theo and the whole thing never would have happened. They act as though the Cubs did some kind of stealthy kidnapping of Theo and he was gone before the RedSox knew what was going on.

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The PSD insider said what happened is Lucchino wanted a "historic" compensation package for letting Theo walk. Kenney looked at it and said OK, because the precedent was Trinidad in the MacPhail deal. So, that's the impasse obviously: Lucchino needed to be much more specific with what was "historic". The way Selig made this deal happen, with him pushing it through the way he did, makes me think there's no chance we wind up giving something truly "significant". At this point, I'll say McNutt on the VERY VERY high end, or something like Antigua or Kirk with some cash, on the low end. Send them Carpenter or Dolis, with Rebel Ridling and half a mill and be done with it.
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Take one guess who wrote that article.

 

On my phone, without looking...... Nick Cafardo?

 

Time to mow the lawn, Nick.

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