Bears game 5: Monday, Oct. 10 at DET, MNF on ESPN

[Banedon]

As horrible as the offense was though, if we had safeties worth a damn, we might have actually won that game.

 

True, but the only reason was Cutler.

 

The defensive line did nothing though, and the linebackers have to take a big part of the blame on those runs. This defense got old again in a hurry.

 

It's pretty tough to pick out any defensive player that you could say had a good game last night. Maybe DJ Moore, and maybe Tillman...

[minnesotacubsfan]

I've never seen a QB as under siege in my life.

 

the thing is, its been like this for over a year now. EVERY game he's under siege. Its not like the Lions D line (albeit very good) suddenly showed the weaknesses in our o-line

[jersey cubs fan]

I've never seen a QB as under siege in my life.

 

the thing is, its been like this for over a year now. EVERY game he's under siege. Its not like the Lions D line (albeit very good) suddenly showed the weaknesses in our o-line

 

It's been well over a year, and the writing has been on the wall for this line for much longer than that.

[bukie]

From today's FO Quick Reads:

 

When we invent BVOA (Blocking-adjusted Value Over Average), Jay Cutler will be its patron saint. It was remarkable watching him survive on Monday night, let alone thrive, evading one Lions lineman after another and picking up first downs. Cutler was like the hero in a zombie movie, fighting valiantly and alone against wave after wave of relentless attackers, until finally he was overwhelmed and Ndamukong Suh ate his brain, which drew the requisite 15-yard penalty.

[Banedon]

From today's FO Quick Reads:

 

When we invent BVOA (Blocking-adjusted Value Over Average), Jay Cutler will be its patron saint. It was remarkable watching him survive on Monday night, let alone thrive, evading one Lions lineman after another and picking up first downs. Cutler was like the hero in a zombie movie, fighting valiantly and alone against wave after wave of relentless attackers, until finally he was overwhelmed and Ndamukong Suh ate his brain, which drew the requisite 15-yard penalty.

 

lol and smh all at once.

[Banedon]

From PFT's power rankings:

 

17. Bears (No. 13; 2-3): Lovie Smith’s seat gradually is getting warmer.

 

I seriously doubt that. I don't think Lovie's in danger here at all. Angelo maybe, but Lovie took a flawed team to the NFCC last season, and had almost no weaknesses addressed by Angelo during the offseason. He's still under contract for 2012 and 2013. I don't see the Bears eating that.

[UMFan83]

From today's FO Quick Reads:

 

When we invent BVOA (Blocking-adjusted Value Over Average), Jay Cutler will be its patron saint. It was remarkable watching him survive on Monday night, let alone thrive, evading one Lions lineman after another and picking up first downs. Cutler was like the hero in a zombie movie, fighting valiantly and alone against wave after wave of relentless attackers, until finally he was overwhelmed and Ndamukong Suh ate his brain, which drew the requisite 15-yard penalty.

 

I chuckled. The only thing you can do with this piss poor bunch is chuckle at their ineptness.

[Guest]

From today's FO Quick Reads:

 

When we invent BVOA (Blocking-adjusted Value Over Average), Jay Cutler will be its patron saint. It was remarkable watching him survive on Monday night, let alone thrive, evading one Lions lineman after another and picking up first downs. Cutler was like the hero in a zombie movie, fighting valiantly and alone against wave after wave of relentless attackers, until finally he was overwhelmed and Ndamukong Suh ate his brain, which drew the requisite 15-yard penalty.

 

Can you link this up for me? I'd love to share it with this yahoo Steeler fan that came up to me with about 3 or 4 minutes left to go in the game and explained how bad of a QB Cutler is. His comment left me so angry, I berated him loud enough for everyone in the building to hear me and basically shoved him away rather than just knock him out. And it's more because he's a bandwagon fan rather than a legit fan. He would NOT be able to name off the front four of the Steel Curtain if I asked him.

 

And we sort of got a small peak on Sunday night what can happen when even Aaron Rodgers has no offensive line to speak of. There were back to back sacks at one point. His saving grace in that game however, as was already mentioned, was Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson and Finley. All better receivers today than ANYONE on the Bears team that played last night. That's not to say that I think Cutler is anywhere near the level of Rodgers. It's just a sad commentary that Jay Cutler is our brain surgeon and he has been given a butter knife and a spoon as his only tools. In other words, an absolute mess.

[bukie]

From today's FO Quick Reads:

 

When we invent BVOA (Blocking-adjusted Value Over Average), Jay Cutler will be its patron saint. It was remarkable watching him survive on Monday night, let alone thrive, evading one Lions lineman after another and picking up first downs. Cutler was like the hero in a zombie movie, fighting valiantly and alone against wave after wave of relentless attackers, until finally he was overwhelmed and Ndamukong Suh ate his brain, which drew the requisite 15-yard penalty.

 

Can you link this up for me? I'd love to share it with this yahoo Steeler fan that came up to me with about 3 or 4 minutes left to go in the game and explained how bad of a QB Cutler is. His comment left me so angry, I berated him loud enough for everyone in the building to hear me and basically shoved him away rather than just knock him out. And it's more because he's a bandwagon fan rather than a legit fan. He would NOT be able to name off the front four of the Steel Curtain if I asked him.

 

And we sort of got a small peak on Sunday night what can happen when even Aaron Rodgers has no offensive line to speak of. There were back to back sacks at one point. His saving grace in that game however, as was already mentioned, was Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson and Finley. All better receivers today than ANYONE on the Bears team that played last night. That's not to say that I think Cutler is anywhere near the level of Rodgers. It's just a sad commentary that Jay Cutler is our brain surgeon and he has been given a butter knife and a spoon as his only tools. In other words, an absolute mess.

 

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2011/week-5-quick-reads

[Guest]

I concur with Jersey about the VandenBosch push on Cutler. Jay was off balance when VandenBosch pushed him and it didn't take much for him to hit the turf, but Jay played it up to the officials, which probably cost him an opportunity to get another 10 yards added to the play. The whistle was blown way before the hit. I can't blame Jay, though, because he's just trying to get creative in moving this team down the field since no one else is helping.

[Guest]

From today's FO Quick Reads:

 

When we invent BVOA (Blocking-adjusted Value Over Average), Jay Cutler will be its patron saint. It was remarkable watching him survive on Monday night, let alone thrive, evading one Lions lineman after another and picking up first downs. Cutler was like the hero in a zombie movie, fighting valiantly and alone against wave after wave of relentless attackers, until finally he was overwhelmed and Ndamukong Suh ate his brain, which drew the requisite 15-yard penalty.

 

Can you link this up for me? I'd love to share it with this yahoo Steeler fan that came up to me with about 3 or 4 minutes left to go in the game and explained how bad of a QB Cutler is. His comment left me so angry, I berated him loud enough for everyone in the building to hear me and basically shoved him away rather than just knock him out. And it's more because he's a bandwagon fan rather than a legit fan. He would NOT be able to name off the front four of the Steel Curtain if I asked him.

 

And we sort of got a small peak on Sunday night what can happen when even Aaron Rodgers has no offensive line to speak of. There were back to back sacks at one point. His saving grace in that game however, as was already mentioned, was Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson and Finley. All better receivers today than ANYONE on the Bears team that played last night. That's not to say that I think Cutler is anywhere near the level of Rodgers. It's just a sad commentary that Jay Cutler is our brain surgeon and he has been given a butter knife and a spoon as his only tools. In other words, an absolute mess.

 

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2011/week-5-quick-reads

 

Gracias!

[jersey cubs fan]

From PFT's power rankings:

 

17. Bears (No. 13; 2-3): Lovie Smith’s seat gradually is getting warmer.

 

I seriously doubt that. I don't think Lovie's in danger here at all. Angelo maybe, but Lovie took a flawed team to the NFCC last season, and had almost no weaknesses addressed by Angelo during the offseason. He's still under contract for 2012 and 2013. I don't see the Bears eating that.

 

The thing is, with the offensive line as bad as they are and the defense not being able to stop anything, it is conceivable that this team nosedives the rest of the way. At some point Lovie's message is going to die out which will erase the only thing he does well, which is have the team ready to give max effort of gameday.

 

Also, either through retirement or a need to make a move, Angelo could be out the door, and I have to think any other GM in the game would consider dumping Lovie.

 

If the season continues on this path, Lovie's seat will be getting very warm. Maybe not hot enough to fire him soon, but hot enough to make 2012 a make or break year.

[Banedon]

The thing is, with the offensive line as bad as they are and the defense not being able to stop anything, it is conceivable that this team nosedives the rest of the way. At some point Lovie's message is going to die out which will erase the only thing he does well, which is have the team ready to give max effort of gameday.

 

Also, either through retirement or a need to make a move, Angelo could be out the door, and I have to think any other GM in the game would consider dumping Lovie.

 

If the season continues on this path, Lovie's seat will be getting very warm. Maybe not hot enough to fire him soon, but hot enough to make 2012 a make or break year.

 

I hear ya. I think Angelo being gone, one way or another, is a real possibility. But even with a new GM, I have some doubts that the McCaskey's will eat 2 years of Lovie's contract. I think we've got at least one more year with him at the helm.

[UMFan83]

Man if Angelo left the Bears, I might actually be nearly as excited as when Hendry was let go.

[Banedon]

Man if Angelo left the Bears, I might actually be nearly as excited as when Hendry was let go.

 

No Theo Epstein's out there to get excited about though. Well no obvious ones anyhow. I hear Matt Millen is available.

[jersey cubs fan]

Man if Angelo left the Bears, I might actually be nearly as excited as when Hendry was let go.

 

Not me. Hendry was clearly worse at his job, wasting a huge payroll advantage that no NFL GM can have. As disappointing as they've been, they haven't been close to being as bad as the Cubs have been in their worst years. 4 playoff appearances (although only 3 should be credited to him), including 1 SB and 1 NFCCG loss with only 2 real stinkers that came early in his tenure. Compare that to Hendry who was a major part of the organization long before he took over. I don't like the guy, and definitely think they can and should do better. But I don't have nearly the same level of disdain for how he does his job as I did with Hendry. With Hendry you knew they could go right from one of the worst to one of the best GMs out there. With Angelo, who the hell knows what they will do to replace him. Possibly the same idiot who helped make Seattle suck.

[UMFan83]

Man if Angelo left the Bears, I might actually be nearly as excited as when Hendry was let go.

 

No Theo Epstein's out there to get excited about though. Well no obvious ones anyhow. I hear Matt Millen is available.

 

Just get someone who can, you know, make one out of every 3 draft picks worth something. Oh and one who addresses glaring needs on the team.

[Butterscup1679666578]

We need new owners before anything.

[UMFan83]

2010:

(3) Major Wright - Disppointment so far. Not starting quality at the moment.

(4) Corey Wootten - Promising player who is never able to stay healthy, which is a big part of the reason he wasn't a 1st or 2nd round pick

(5) Joshua Moore - Doesn't see the field

(6) Dan LeFevour - Didn't make it past training camp last year.

(7) J'Marcus Webb - His best quality is the fact that he's somehow a starter, annoying people who are trying to make a case against Angelo by listing the number of starters he's drafted over the last few years. Supposedly a raw talent that was forced into a starting role due to a lack of competent options

 

2009:

(3) Jarron Gilbert - Not on the team anymore

(3) Juaquin Iglesias - Not on the team anymore

(4) Henry Melton - Solid player, but ideally a good 3rd DE that rotates in and out during the game

(4) DJ Moore - Not sure how good he really is, but he's clearly found a spot on the team and finds himself in a position to pick off passes. Seems like he'd be a good Nickleback in the Ricky Manning Jr mold

(5) Johnny Knox - May never be a superstar but he would have a role on most teams.

(5) Marcus Freeman - Not on the team anymore

(6) Al Afalava - wow I completely forgot about this dude. Another safety in Angelo's quest to find 2 competent ones

(7) Lance Louis - Similar to Webb the year after, a 7th round raw talent being forced into a starting role.

(7) Derek Kinder - Who?

 

2008:

(1) Chris Williams - A bust relative to his draft position but I guess he's NFL backup caliber on many teams

(2) Matt Forte - An obvious home run by Angelo here. I wouldn't be surprised if someone else advised him on this pick.

(3) Earl Bennett - Probably the best overall "receiver" on the team even if he doesn't have the most talent or the ability to learn the playbook in a timely manner. Solid yet unspectacular guy. Would be a good 3rd or 4th WR on a team with actual WRs on it.

(4) Marcus Harrison - Not on the team anymore

(4) Craig Steltz - Another mediocre safety that is nothing special at all.

(5) Zac Bowman - I guess he's ok. Marginal starting CB.

(5) Kellen Davis - He's ok but he's not a starting quality TE in the league IMO.

(7) Multitude of names that never played for the Bears all drafted in the 7th round - Yeah.

 

2007:

(1) Greg Olsen - Solid pass catching tight end that was somehow expendable because Mike Martz didn't need him. Yeah...

(2) Dan Bazuin - Thus begins the greatest draft in Angelo's history!!!

(3) Garrett Wolfe - Remember the infamous "Garrett Wolfe" packages Turner used to employ?

(3) Michael Okwo - Ha

(4) Josh Beekman - Proof our line was almost as bad 3 years ago: Many were calling for this dude to start and were angry when we released him.

(5) Kevin Payne - Ha

(5) Corey Graham - The special teams wiz until he pulled an Ayenbadejo and prices his way out of town.

(7) Trumane McBride - Ha

(7) Aaron Brant - I doubt even his college coach remembes who this dude is.

 

I don't know...I don't look at other team's drafts and evaluate them. Do other teams have this many random 3rd-6th round picks that are complete non factors in the NFL?

 

Out of this list of 31 names, only 14 (i believe) are still on the Bears roster, 7 are starting for the Bears, and there's only 1 player that you could honestly say is an above average starter in the NFL (Forte). That's just not acceptable.

[UK1679666180]

I still can't believe they can miss so badly on the offensive and defensive lines. They have been awful on both lines with the draft and FA, Peppers doesn't count given the price tag.

 

Angelo should be fired, last year's smoke and mirrors shouldn't save him.

[JonJayCutler]

 

2010:

(3) Major Wright - Disppointment so far. Not starting quality at the moment.

(4) Corey Wootten - Promising player who is never able to stay healthy, which is a big part of the reason he wasn't a 1st or 2nd round pick

(5) Joshua Moore - Doesn't see the field

(6) Dan LeFevour - Didn't make it past training camp last year.

(7) J'Marcus Webb - His best quality is the fact that he's somehow a starter, annoying people who are trying to make a case against Angelo by listing the number of starters he's drafted over the last few years. Supposedly a raw talent that was forced into a starting role due to a lack of competent options

 

2009:

(3) Jarron Gilbert - Not on the team anymore

(3) Juaquin Iglesias - Not on the team anymore

(4) Henry Melton - Solid player, but ideally a good 3rd DE that rotates in and out during the game

(4) DJ Moore - Not sure how good he really is, but he's clearly found a spot on the team and finds himself in a position to pick off passes. Seems like he'd be a good Nickleback in the Ricky Manning Jr mold

(5) Johnny Knox - May never be a superstar but he would have a role on most teams.

(5) Marcus Freeman - Not on the team anymore

(6) Al Afalava - wow I completely forgot about this dude. Another safety in Angelo's quest to find 2 competent ones

(7) Lance Louis - Similar to Webb the year after, a 7th round raw talent being forced into a starting role.

(7) Derek Kinder - Who?

 

2008:

(1) Chris Williams - A bust relative to his draft position but I guess he's NFL backup caliber on many teams

(2) Matt Forte - An obvious home run by Angelo here. I wouldn't be surprised if someone else advised him on this pick.

(3) Earl Bennett - Probably the best overall "receiver" on the team even if he doesn't have the most talent or the ability to learn the playbook in a timely manner. Solid yet unspectacular guy. Would be a good 3rd or 4th WR on a team with actual WRs on it.

(4) Marcus Harrison - Not on the team anymore

(4) Craig Steltz - Another mediocre safety that is nothing special at all.

(5) Zac Bowman - I guess he's ok. Marginal starting CB.

(5) Kellen Davis - He's ok but he's not a starting quality TE in the league IMO.

(7) Multitude of names that never played for the Bears all drafted in the 7th round - Yeah.

 

2007:

(1) Greg Olsen - Solid pass catching tight end that was somehow expendable because Mike Martz didn't need him. Yeah...

(2) Dan Bazuin - Thus begins the greatest draft in Angelo's history!!!

(3) Garrett Wolfe - Remember the infamous "Garrett Wolfe" packages Turner used to employ?

(3) Michael Okwo - Ha

(4) Josh Beekman - Proof our line was almost as bad 3 years ago: Many were calling for this dude to start and were angry when we released him.

(5) Kevin Payne - Ha

(5) Corey Graham - The special teams wiz until he pulled an Ayenbadejo and prices his way out of town.

(7) Trumane McBride - Ha

(7) Aaron Brant - I doubt even his college coach remembes who this dude is.

 

I don't know...I don't look at other team's drafts and evaluate them. Do other teams have this many random 3rd-6th round picks that are complete non factors in the NFL?

 

Out of this list of 31 names, only 14 (i believe) are still on the Bears roster, 7 are starting for the Bears, and there's only 1 player that you could honestly say is an above average starter in the NFL (Forte). That's just not acceptable.

 

 

This is a great list highlighting Angelo's failures. Couple notes though... Joshua Moore is not on the team anymore, Henry Melton is a starting DT now, and Zack Bowman hasn't started since the beginning of last year. My god the 2010 draft was atrocious. J'Marcus Webb is the highlight of that draft. :-&

[Banedon]

2010:

(3) Major Wright - Disppointment so far. Not starting quality at the moment.

(4) Corey Wootten - Promising player who is never able to stay healthy, which is a big part of the reason he wasn't a 1st or 2nd round pick

(5) Joshua Moore - Doesn't see the field

(6) Dan LeFevour - Didn't make it past training camp last year.

(7) J'Marcus Webb - His best quality is the fact that he's somehow a starter, annoying people who are trying to make a case against Angelo by listing the number of starters he's drafted over the last few years. Supposedly a raw talent that was forced into a starting role due to a lack of competent options

 

2009:

(3) Jarron Gilbert - Not on the team anymore

(3) Juaquin Iglesias - Not on the team anymore

(4) Henry Melton - Solid player, but ideally a good 3rd DE that rotates in and out during the game

(4) DJ Moore - Not sure how good he really is, but he's clearly found a spot on the team and finds himself in a position to pick off passes. Seems like he'd be a good Nickleback in the Ricky Manning Jr mold

(5) Johnny Knox - May never be a superstar but he would have a role on most teams.

(5) Marcus Freeman - Not on the team anymore

(6) Al Afalava - wow I completely forgot about this dude. Another safety in Angelo's quest to find 2 competent ones

(7) Lance Louis - Similar to Webb the year after, a 7th round raw talent being forced into a starting role.

(7) Derek Kinder - Who?

 

2008:

(1) Chris Williams - A bust relative to his draft position but I guess he's NFL backup caliber on many teams

(2) Matt Forte - An obvious home run by Angelo here. I wouldn't be surprised if someone else advised him on this pick.

(3) Earl Bennett - Probably the best overall "receiver" on the team even if he doesn't have the most talent or the ability to learn the playbook in a timely manner. Solid yet unspectacular guy. Would be a good 3rd or 4th WR on a team with actual WRs on it.

(4) Marcus Harrison - Not on the team anymore

(4) Craig Steltz - Another mediocre safety that is nothing special at all.

(5) Zac Bowman - I guess he's ok. Marginal starting CB.

(5) Kellen Davis - He's ok but he's not a starting quality TE in the league IMO.

(7) Multitude of names that never played for the Bears all drafted in the 7th round - Yeah.

 

2007:

(1) Greg Olsen - Solid pass catching tight end that was somehow expendable because Mike Martz didn't need him. Yeah...

(2) Dan Bazuin - Thus begins the greatest draft in Angelo's history!!!

(3) Garrett Wolfe - Remember the infamous "Garrett Wolfe" packages Turner used to employ?

(3) Michael Okwo - Ha

(4) Josh Beekman - Proof our line was almost as bad 3 years ago: Many were calling for this dude to start and were angry when we released him.

(5) Kevin Payne - Ha

(5) Corey Graham - The special teams wiz until he pulled an Ayenbadejo and prices his way out of town.

(7) Trumane McBride - Ha

(7) Aaron Brant - I doubt even his college coach remembes who this dude is.

 

I don't know...I don't look at other team's drafts and evaluate them. Do other teams have this many random 3rd-6th round picks that are complete non factors in the NFL?

 

Out of this list of 31 names, only 14 (i believe) are still on the Bears roster, 7 are starting for the Bears, and there's only 1 player that you could honestly say is an above average starter in the NFL (Forte). That's just not acceptable.

 

 

This is a great list highlighting Angelo's failures. Couple notes though... Joshua Moore is not on the team anymore, Henry Melton is a starting DT now, and Zack Bowman hasn't started since the beginning of last year. My god the 2010 draft was atrocious. J'Marcus Webb is the highlight of that draft. :-&

 

Also, I don't think it's too early to call Paea from this years draft a disappointment. We traded up to get him and he hasn't suited up on Sunday yet.

[UMFan83]

Just for fun...the Packers over that time frame:

 

(1) Bryan Bulaga, T - Starting T

(2) Michael Neal, DT - 3rd or 4th string DT

(3) Morgan Burnett, DB - Starting SS

(5) Andrew Quarless, TE - Backup TE

(5) Marshall Newhouse, G - Backup LT

(6) James Starks, RB - Pretty much starting RB

(7) CJ Wilson, DE - Backup DE

 

(1) BJ Raji, DT - Starting DT

(1) Clay Matthews, LB - Starting, DPOY caliber LB

(4) TJ Lang, T - Starting G

(5) Quinn Johnson, RB - Not on team

(5) James Meredith, T - Not on team

(6) Jarius Wynn, DE - Starting DE

(6) Brandon Underwood, DB - Not on team

(7) Brad Jones, LB - Backup OLB

 

(2) Jordy Nelson, WR - Backup WR that is on pace for 1,200 yards this year.

(2) Brian Brohm, QB - Not on team

(2) Patrick Lee, DB - 3rd string CB

(3) Jermichael Finley, TE - Starting pro bowl caliber TE

(4) Jeremy Thompson, DE - Not on team

(4) Josh Sitton, T - Starting G

(5) Breno Giacomini, T - Not on team

(7) Matt Flynn, QB - Backup QB

(7) Brett Swain, WR - Not on team

 

I count that as 17 out of 24 picks still on the team, 9 starters drafted in 3 years (for the Bears I did 4 years and got 7), and at least 4 above average starters at their position.

[Guest]

2010:

(3) Major Wright - Disppointment so far. Not starting quality at the moment.

(4) Corey Wootten - Promising player who is never able to stay healthy, which is a big part of the reason he wasn't a 1st or 2nd round pick

(5) Joshua Moore - Doesn't see the field

(6) Dan LeFevour - Didn't make it past training camp last year.

(7) J'Marcus Webb - His best quality is the fact that he's somehow a starter, annoying people who are trying to make a case against Angelo by listing the number of starters he's drafted over the last few years. Supposedly a raw talent that was forced into a starting role due to a lack of competent options

 

2009:

(3) Jarron Gilbert - Not on the team anymore

(3) Juaquin Iglesias - Not on the team anymore

(4) Henry Melton - Solid player, but ideally a good 3rd DE that rotates in and out during the game

(4) DJ Moore - Not sure how good he really is, but he's clearly found a spot on the team and finds himself in a position to pick off passes. Seems like he'd be a good Nickleback in the Ricky Manning Jr mold

(5) Johnny Knox - May never be a superstar but he would have a role on most teams.

(5) Marcus Freeman - Not on the team anymore

(6) Al Afalava - wow I completely forgot about this dude. Another safety in Angelo's quest to find 2 competent ones

(7) Lance Louis - Similar to Webb the year after, a 7th round raw talent being forced into a starting role.

(7) Derek Kinder - Who?

 

2008:

(1) Chris Williams - A bust relative to his draft position but I guess he's NFL backup caliber on many teams

(2) Matt Forte - An obvious home run by Angelo here. I wouldn't be surprised if someone else advised him on this pick.

(3) Earl Bennett - Probably the best overall "receiver" on the team even if he doesn't have the most talent or the ability to learn the playbook in a timely manner. Solid yet unspectacular guy. Would be a good 3rd or 4th WR on a team with actual WRs on it.

(4) Marcus Harrison - Not on the team anymore

(4) Craig Steltz - Another mediocre safety that is nothing special at all.

(5) Zac Bowman - I guess he's ok. Marginal starting CB.

(5) Kellen Davis - He's ok but he's not a starting quality TE in the league IMO.

(7) Multitude of names that never played for the Bears all drafted in the 7th round - Yeah.

 

2007:

(1) Greg Olsen - Solid pass catching tight end that was somehow expendable because Mike Martz didn't need him. Yeah...

(2) Dan Bazuin - Thus begins the greatest draft in Angelo's history!!!

(3) Garrett Wolfe - Remember the infamous "Garrett Wolfe" packages Turner used to employ?

(3) Michael Okwo - Ha

(4) Josh Beekman - Proof our line was almost as bad 3 years ago: Many were calling for this dude to start and were angry when we released him.

(5) Kevin Payne - Ha

(5) Corey Graham - The special teams wiz until he pulled an Ayenbadejo and prices his way out of town.

(7) Trumane McBride - Ha

(7) Aaron Brant - I doubt even his college coach remembes who this dude is.

 

I don't know...I don't look at other team's drafts and evaluate them. Do other teams have this many random 3rd-6th round picks that are complete non factors in the NFL?

 

Out of this list of 31 names, only 14 (i believe) are still on the Bears roster, 7 are starting for the Bears, and there's only 1 player that you could honestly say is an above average starter in the NFL (Forte). That's just not acceptable.

 

 

This is a great list highlighting Angelo's failures. Couple notes though... Joshua Moore is not on the team anymore, Henry Melton is a starting DT now, and Zack Bowman hasn't started since the beginning of last year. My god the 2010 draft was atrocious. J'Marcus Webb is the highlight of that draft. :-&

 

Also, I don't think it's too early to call Paea from this years draft a disappointment. We traded up to get him and he hasn't suited up on Sunday yet.

 

 

Yeah. Considering how bad the line has been, I'd like to see this guy get some game time at this point. I honestly thought the DLine was going to be a massive strength that forced more tackles behind the line of scrimmage, more sacks and more turnovers from pressure. We haven't seen any pressure at all to speak of, other than coverage tackles.

[jersey cubs fan]

I still can't believe they can miss so badly on the offensive and defensive lines. They have been awful on both lines with the draft and FA, Peppers doesn't count given the price tag.

 

Angelo should be fired, last year's smoke and mirrors shouldn't save him.

 

They've drafted some quality defensive linemen. Unless Carimi turns into something, they can't say the same thing on offense.

 

They've had huge busts, like that freaking idiotic Dan Bazuin selection, but Harris was great, Johnson and Dusty were good but with side issues that kept them from living up to their abilities. And a few other guys have been decent enough.