What is Ricketts Wating For?

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm pretty certain it's always or almost always followed by a guy inside the organization being promoted to interim GM, primarily because that's the only real option.

 

Why does this ridiculous notion keep getting repeated?

 

Because that's what happens? You don't believe that when a GM is fired midseason, he's generally replaced by an interim GM promoted from within?

 

I don't believe it's the only real option.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm pretty certain it's always or almost always followed by a guy inside the organization being promoted to interim GM, primarily because that's the only real option.

 

Why does this ridiculous notion keep getting repeated?

 

Did you mistake that as his him saying that Hendry's replacement would be likely to get a PERMANENT promotion to GM? Because what he actually said isn't "ridiculous" at all and is what usually happens when a manager is fired midseason.

 

I took that as him saying the only option for replacing Hendry right now is with an internal interim GM.

 

It's technically not the only option, but it's by far the most likely one.

[Bull]

I'm pretty certain it's always or almost always followed by a guy inside the organization being promoted to interim GM, primarily because that's the only real option.

 

Why does this ridiculous notion keep getting repeated?

 

Did you mistake that as his him saying that Hendry's replacement would be likely to get a PERMANENT promotion to GM? Because what he actually said isn't "ridiculous" at all and is what usually happens when a manager is fired midseason.

 

I took that as him saying the only option for replacing Hendry right now is with an internal interim GM.

 

It's technically not the only option, but it's by far the most likely one.

 

What is to stop Crane Kenney from handling things until the new guy is hired? Isn't that what happened last time? After Lynch was fired, MacPhail (team president) served as gm until Hendry was hired.

[CubColtPacer]

 

I took that as him saying the only option for replacing Hendry right now is with an internal interim GM.

 

It's technically not the only option, but it's by far the most likely one.

 

What is to stop Crane Kenney from handling things until the new guy is hired? Isn't that what happened last time? After Lynch was fired, MacPhail (team president) served as gm until Hendry was hired.

 

Kenney would have no idea what to do as GM. He's a businessman and handles those aspects of the Cubs well, but he has no qualifications for the GM role.

[dew1679666265]

I'm pretty certain it's always or almost always followed by a guy inside the organization being promoted to interim GM, primarily because that's the only real option.

 

Why does this ridiculous notion keep getting repeated?

 

Because that's what happens? You don't believe that when a GM is fired midseason, he's generally replaced by an interim GM promoted from within?

 

I don't believe it's the only real option.

 

What other quality option is out there? Teams won't give us permission now to interview and hire currently employed front office members, so that pretty much leaves convincing a guy like Pat Gillick to come out of retirement to take over as GM (very unlikely to be realistic) or to go after an unemployed GM who is very likely unemployed because he wasn't very good.

 

Can you think of other options that could/should be considered?

[dew1679666265]

What is to stop Crane Kenney from handling things until the new guy is hired? Isn't that what happened last time? After Lynch was fired, MacPhail (team president) served as gm until Hendry was hired.

 

To go along with what CCP said, MacPhail was a former GM who had experience in that role and could handle it. Kenney isn't going to feel the same way about taking over that MacPhail did.

[Brett]

 

I took that as him saying the only option for replacing Hendry right now is with an internal interim GM.

 

It's technically not the only option, but it's by far the most likely one.

 

What is to stop Crane Kenney from handling things until the new guy is hired? Isn't that what happened last time? After Lynch was fired, MacPhail (team president) served as gm until Hendry was hired.

 

Kenney would have no idea what to do as GM. He's a businessman and handles those aspects of the Cubs well, but he has no qualifications for the GM role.

 

I don't even think he would want to try.

[dew1679666265]

Recent midseason GM changes:

 

2010 - Arizona fires Josh Byrnes; Jerry DiPoto promoted from within

2009 - Toronto fires Ricciardi; Anthopolous promoted from within

2009 - Jim Bowden resigns in March; Mike Rizzo promoted from within

2008 - Seattle fires Bill Bavasi; Lee Pelekoudas promoted from within

2008 - Cincinnati fires Wayne Krivsky; Walt Jocketty promoted from within

2007 - Houston fires Tim Purpura; Tal Smith promoted from within

2007 - Pittsburgh fires Dave Littlefield; Brian Graham promoted from within

 

There wasn't a single incident that I saw within the past 3-5 years where a GM was fired midseason and an interim GM was not promoted from within. Out of that group, three of the interims (Anthopolous, Rizzo and Jocketty) remained full time while in every other case a permanent GM was named after the season.

[XZero771679666304]

I really don't know what is so difficult about understanding that waiting until the offseason to get access to the really good GM candidates is better than an interim GM or shoehorning some unemployed darkhorse in just get Hendry out 90 days earlier.

 

And what kind of quality guy would you get to agree to taking a position for three months? You could scrape up someone to take the position permanently, but I'd be pretty pissed if the Cubs missed out on an Andrew Friedman type because they just had to fire and replace Hendry in July when it really didn't matter. And why in god's name would you fire Jim just to let Bush do the job?

 

I want Hendry gone as much as the next guy, but when you realistically look at the options, canning Jimbo now just doesn't make good sense. If Ricketts plans on letting Hendry finish his contract this is all moot. If he plans on firing him, waiting three months isn't really hurting anything, whereas not waiting could.

[Sammy Sofa]

Personally, I'd prefer the later firing because I think it makes the chances that much better that as much as possible of the FO goes with Hendry.

[davell]

My guess is we get Hahn as our next GM. I also guess that we'll entertain Cashman, Friedman, and Beane. I don't think that ridding ourselves of Hendry right now does anything positive for us. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if it HURT our chances with one of these guys, considering how well liked Hendry is within baseball circles.

 

As far as who else goes with Hendry? I don't really care, other than I want Wilken to stay put. Giving him a bigtime budget to do his job will probably produce very good results for us longterm.

[Yeti]

my guess is that ricketts is waiting for someone to do something unspeakable to the dead horse that we are beating in this thread

[Guest]

My guess is we get Hahn as our next GM. I also guess that we'll entertain Cashman, Friedman, and Beane. I don't think that ridding ourselves of Hendry right now does anything positive for us. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if it HURT our chances with one of these guys, considering how well liked Hendry is within baseball circles.

 

As far as who else goes with Hendry? I don't really care, other than I want Wilken to stay put. Giving him a bigtime budget to do his job will probably produce very good results for us longterm.

I'd prefer to move on from Fleita at this point.

[SouthSideRyan]

My guess is we get Hahn as our next GM. I also guess that we'll entertain Cashman, Friedman, and Beane. I don't think that ridding ourselves of Hendry right now does anything positive for us. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if it HURT our chances with one of these guys, considering how well liked Hendry is within baseball circles.

 

As far as who else goes with Hendry? I don't really care, other than I want Wilken to stay put. Giving him a bigtime budget to do his job will probably produce very good results for us longterm.

I'd prefer to move on from Fleita at this point.

 

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