06/03 CUBS (Dempster) @ Cardinals (Garcia) 7:15 CDT, WGN TV

[Vanilla Ice]

They don't deserve a creative game thread right now.

 

Go Cubs.

[UMFan83]

We got this.

[tfarks]

Go get em' Cnbs!

[Little Slide Rooter]

You mean they're still playing? I thought they'd learned their lesson after the last home stand. Bold prediction: the Cubs are below .400 at the end of the month.

[SABR Gamer]

Well, at least we are still ahead of the 'Stros despite the fact that they swept us.

 

Also, any standout players in the draft this year worth being happy about bombing the season for?

[otis89]

Watch as the Cubs take 2 out of 3 just to mess with us.

[CubmanPi]

Is it too early to start tracking the fecal league standings? Since we just got swept by one of the TWO teams still behind (ahead of) us, I think not.

 

               Record         GB            Win Pct

1. Twins       17-37          --             .315
2. Astros      22-34          4              .393
3. Cobs        23-31          6              .426
3. Padres      24-32          6              .429
5. Nats        24-31          6.5            .436

[CubmanPi]

Just for good measure, here's a link to 2011 MLB payroll by team, which shows the 3rd worst team sporting the 6th-highest payroll.

 

Also, I wasn't aware the White Sox's payroll is higher than the Cubs'.

 

ETA - I also didn't realize that the Twins' payroll is so high.

[pitchcs]

Just for good measure, here's a link to 2011 MLB payroll by team, which shows the 3rd worst team sporting the 6th-highest payroll.

 

Also, I wasn't aware the White Sox's payroll is higher than the Cubs'.

 

ETA - I also didn't realize that the Twins' payroll is so high.

 

 

I sorta remember seeing somewhere that this is due to Silva not being on the team. Like it isn't reported in the final totals but the Cubs technically are higher I think.

[jersey cubs fan]

Just for good measure, here's a link to 2011 MLB payroll by team, which shows the 3rd worst team sporting the 6th-highest payroll.

 

Also, I wasn't aware the White Sox's payroll is higher than the Cubs'.

 

ETA - I also didn't realize that the Twins' payroll is so high.

 

 

I sorta remember seeing somewhere that this is due to Silva not being on the team. Like it isn't reported in the final totals but the Cubs technically are higher I think.

 

Those opening day payroll lists are so dumb. They don't take into account contracts that have been eaten, nor mid-season trades that add or subtract payroll to teams, in order to actually compare what the team spends on players.

[Andy]

Oh good, the Cardinals' latest from-nowhere awesome ace pitcher gets to shut us down again. What fun.

[CubmanPi]

Just for good measure, here's a link to 2011 MLB payroll by team, which shows the 3rd worst team sporting the 6th-highest payroll.

 

Also, I wasn't aware the White Sox's payroll is higher than the Cubs'.

 

ETA - I also didn't realize that the Twins' payroll is so high.

 

 

I sorta remember seeing somewhere that this is due to Silva not being on the team. Like it isn't reported in the final totals but the Cubs technically are higher I think.

 

Those opening day payroll lists are so dumb. They don't take into account contracts that have been eaten, nor mid-season trades that add or subtract payroll to teams, in order to actually compare what the team spends on players.

I wasn't aware of any of those omissions. $125MM sounded low, but I just figured I thought so because I don't follow payroll numbers very closely. Where is a better spot to find payroll info?

[CubmanPi]

Just for good measure, here's a link to 2011 MLB payroll by team, which shows the 3rd worst team sporting the 6th-highest payroll.

 

Also, I wasn't aware the White Sox's payroll is higher than the Cubs'.

 

ETA - I also didn't realize that the Twins' payroll is so high.

 

 

I sorta remember seeing somewhere that this is due to Silva not being on the team. Like it isn't reported in the final totals but the Cubs technically are higher I think.

Yea, I don't get the point of creating a payroll list like the one I linked if it doesn't include ALL of the money the team is spending on players that year. I guess that means the list isn't counting the money the Mets spend every year on Saberhagen and Bonilla either. Dumb.

 

I'm glad I read these posts before I added the payroll and projected dollars per win categories to the FLS.

[CubColtPacer]

Just for good measure, here's a link to 2011 MLB payroll by team, which shows the 3rd worst team sporting the 6th-highest payroll.

 

Also, I wasn't aware the White Sox's payroll is higher than the Cubs'.

 

ETA - I also didn't realize that the Twins' payroll is so high.

 

 

I sorta remember seeing somewhere that this is due to Silva not being on the team. Like it isn't reported in the final totals but the Cubs technically are higher I think.

 

Those opening day payroll lists are so dumb. They don't take into account contracts that have been eaten, nor mid-season trades that add or subtract payroll to teams, in order to actually compare what the team spends on players.

I wasn't aware of any of those omissions. $125MM sounded low, but I just figured I thought so because I don't follow payroll numbers very closely. Where is a better spot to find payroll info?

 

Cots tends to give better and more detailed information although it also has its quirks (pro-rating signing bonuses for example). It has the Cubs at 134 million. The USA Today list gives you a very rough look at how teams stack up to each other while Cots will give you a much better player/team breakdown.

[Yeti]

i think i'm gonna go play golf for the first time in years rather than watch this one.

 

 

ETA: crap i just realized i dont have a putter(lost to drunken rampage on the 16th hole last time i played)

[soapy]

Yeti is the Zambrano of golf.

 

Though I gave up hope for this season weeks (months?) ago, I'd really like to see the Cubs beat the Cardinals.

[CubmanPi]

               Record         GB            Win Pct

1. Twins       18-37          --             .327
2. Astros      23-34          4              .404
3. Padres      24-33          5              .421
4. Cobs        23-31          5.5            .426
5. Nats        25-31          6.5            .446
5. Royals      25-31          6.5            .446

Updated for the off day. Padres took sole possession of third, but the Cubs gained ground on everyone else.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Greetings one and all from beautiful Algonquin, IL !!!

 

 

Worthless stats of the day for Friday.............

 

 

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CUBS are 3-6 on Fridays

CUBS are 0-1 in June

CUBS are 1-2 vs. St. Louis

CUBS are 7-16 vs. NL Central

CUBS are 1-1 when they've lost their last 3 game(s) in a row

CUBS are 18-12 when they've lost their previous game

CUBS are 7-12 in games that begin a series

CUBS are 1-2 in games that begin a road trip

CUBS are 13-16 at night

CUBS are 11-12 on the road

CUBS are 8-6 vs lefties

CUBS are 13-6 when they get a quality start.... 10-25 when they don't

CUBS are 11-21 when the opponents get a quality start.... 12-10 when they don't

CUBS are 12-11 when they score first in the game.... 11-20 when they don't

CUBS are 3-11 when the score in the first inning.... 20-20 when they don't

CUBS are 16-19 when they don't allow any first inning runs.... 7-12 when they do

CUBS are 19-11 when they score 4 runs or more.... 4-20 when they don't

CUBS are 15-3 when they allow fewer than 4 runs.... 8-28 when they don't

CUBS are 18-9 when they outhit the opponent.... 1-20 when they get outhit.... 4-2 when the hits are even

CUBS are 7-5 when their pitcher gets a hit.... 16-26 when he doesn't

CUBS are 6-6 in one run games .... 5-7 in two runs games

CUBS are 10-10 when the temperature is 70 degrees or above.... 13-21 when it's less than 70

CUBS are 11-11 when their pitchers average 16 pitches per inning or less.... 12-20 when they don't

CUBS are 14-19 when they average 3.7 P/PA or less.... 9-12 when they don't

CUBS are 6-7 when their starter pitches 6-1/3 innings or more.... 17-24 when he doesn't

CUBS are 17-15 when the opposing starter pitches 6-1/3 innings or less.... 6-14 when he doesn't

CUBS are 7-15 when WGN broadcasts the game

 

CUBS are on a pace for:                   Compared to:
                                  2010  2009  2008  2007  2006  2005
..69 wins                            75    84    97    85    66    79
.687 runs                           684   711   857   752   716   703
.117 home runs                      149   162   185   151   166   194
.420 walks                          476   597   638   500   395   419
1086 strike outs                   1236  1192  1193  1054   928   920
..45 stolen bases                    55    55    87    87   121    64
.129 GIDPs                          124   135   136   128   135   129
.132 errors                         122   103    97    94   104   100
..63 hit batsmen                     50    58    50    37    41    50
4.24 runs per game                 4.22  4.39  5.29  4.64  4.42  4.34
3.68 pitches per plate appearance  3.79  3.82  3.88  3.74  3.68  3.61
.344 runs per baserunner          0.353 0.345 0.381 0.364 0.370 0.365
28.7 % of extra base hits          33.6  34.6  34.3  34.1  32.3  35.8
.273 batting average              0.256 0.255 0.277 0.271 0.268 0.270
.329 on base percentage           0.319 0.331 0.353 0.332 0.319 0.324
.399 slugging percentage          0.401 0.407 0.440 0.422 0.422 0.440
.728 on base plus slugging (OPS)  0.720 0.738 0.794 0.754 0.741 0.764

 

CUBS are 21-18 when they get at least 8 hits .... 2-13 when they don't

CUBS are 18-21 when they draw 2 or more walks.... 5-10 when they don't

CUBS are 5-4 when they steal a base.... 18-27 when they don't

CUBS are 7-7 when they execute a sac bunt.... 16-24 when they don't

CUBS are 15-19 when they GIDP.... 8-12 when they don't

CUBS are 9-14 when they commit one or more errors.... 14-17 when they don't

CUBS are 21-20 when they hit at least one double.... 2-11 when they don't

CUBS are 5-4 when they hit at least one triple.... 18-27 when they don't

CUBS are 8-1 when they hit at least 2 HRs.... 15-30 when they don't

CUBS are 5-4 when they hit at least 1 sac fly.... 18-27 when they don't

CUBS are 5-14 when they allow fewer than 3 walks.... 18-17 when they don't

CUBS are 9-7 when the opponents strike out at least 9 times.... 14-24 when they don't

CUBS are 10-16 when the opponent steals a base.... 13-15 when they don't

CUBS are 10-12 when the opponent executes a sac bunt.... 13-19 when they don't

CUBS are 13-12 when the opponent GIDPs at least once.... 10-19 when they don't

CUBS are 14-17 when the opponent commits at least 1 error.... 9-14 when they don't

CUBS are 5-10 when the opponent triples.... 18-21 when they don't

CUBS are 2-10 when the opponent hits at least 2 HRs.... 21-21 when they don't

CUBS are 4-10 when the opponent hits a sac fly.... 19-21 when they don't

CUBS are 6-11 when they hit an opposing batter.... 17-20 when they don't

 

CUBS are 7-5 when Dempster starts

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go CUBS !!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

© 2011, Fred W. Hornkohl

[PrimeTime]

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[Little Slide Rooter]

Interesting little lineup this evening

 

Fuku Rf

Barney 2B

Castro SS

Soto c

Pena 1B

Montanez LF

Colvin CF

LaMahieu 3B

Demp P

 

Quade sure does love re-arranging those deck chairs while everyone else is running for the life boats.

[Little Slide Rooter]

               Record         GB            Win Pct

1. Twins       18-37          --             .327
2. Astros      23-34          4              .404
3. Padres      24-33          5              .421
4. Cobs        23-31          5.5            .426
5. Nats        25-31          6.5            .446
5. Royals      25-31          6.5            .446

Updated for the off day. Padres took sole possession of third, but the Cubs gained ground on everyone else.

 

We're in truely special company.

[Cubs Fan Dan]

Wait... I thought catchers hit 8th? Might watch just to keep an eye on DJ, Barney(only reason to watch cubs), and Castro.

[pitchcs]

This lineup is just hilarious; I bet Jaime Garcia is trembling.

 

He got rocked in his last outing, probably not gonna happen again.

[NOLA]

Interesting little lineup this evening

 

Fuku Rf

Barney 2B

Castro SS

Soto c

Pena 1B

Montanez LF

Colvin CF

LaMahieu 3B

Demp P

 

Quade sure does love re-arranging those deck chairs while everyone else is running for the life boats.

 

I honestly am anxious to see this lineup tonight. Not that I think the Cubs will win, but to see LaMahieu, how Soto handles cleanup, if Colvin can do anything, etc.

 

If I watch this game with the same viewpoint that I watch a minor league game, it is more enjoyable.

 

CUBS are 15-3 when they allow fewer than 4 runs.... 8-28 when they don't

 

Sometimes stats do tell the tale.

[Guest]

I might have missed it, but is Ramirez out for any length of time?