Bears game 11: Sunday, Nov 28 vs PHI on FOX

[UK1679666180]

Forte did a much better job of waiting for gaps. Anytime you avg 9 yards a carry, its going to include big runs. That line isn't good enough to run the ball in ball control situations nor areForte and Taylor. The big improvement came from the Bears DTs. The Bears won on both sides of the line and as usual the special teams. It was a bad decision to throw with 4 minutes left and not run another 30 seconds off.

[UK1679666180]

I also should say that this division will be won by an 11 win team. Honestly, both teams should be content with 3-2 records in the next 5. Neither team is better than NE and both NJ teams will be toss-ups although the Giants are playing worse than the Jets. Its fun to enjoy but I'm still skeptical despite a bad NFL.

[Banedon]

I also should say that this division will be won by an 11 win team. Honestly, both teams should be content with 3-2 records in the next 5. Neither team is better than NE and both NJ teams will be toss-ups although the Giants are playing worse than the Jets. Its fun to enjoy but I'm still skeptical despite a bad NFL.

 

The Pats lost by nearly 3 TD's on the road in Cleveland. They aren't unbeatable.

 

And neither GB or Chi plays NYG this season...unless I'm misunderstanding your post?

[rawaction]

It took until Thanksgiving weekend, but the Bears just won over a bunch of believers. For those skeptics (me included) who have been waiting all season for Chicago to garner a genuine respect-earning victory, it just arrived!

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Lovie Smith and his underappreciated team have offered no apologies for their better-than-expected record. But you have to admit, Sunday was the first time their why-not-us refrain started to sound plausible. In a wide-open NFC, this team belongs in the mix.

 

Even in offering up respect Don Banks completely disrespects the Bears. Winning in a shutout fashion on short rest in short week against a winning team from the supposedly superior AFC. They may be the only team to have beaten Buffalo in regulation this year. They beat Dallas when Dallas was still considered a threat, and beat Green Bay. They dismantled Favre's Vikings. How is this the first win that garners respect? And how have you not been able to see that if things go right this team clearly as the defense and the quarterback to make a "why not us" statement plausible?

 

In defense of most of the world, that Giants game was possibly the worst game any offense has ever played.....not even an exaggeration. The media has hung it's hat on that game as proof that the Bears aren't good for 2 months. Losing at home to Seattle and to Washington with Cutler's 4 INTs added fuel to the fire.

[jersey cubs fan]

In defense of most of the world, that Giants game was possibly the worst game any offense has ever played.....not even an exaggeration. The media has hung it's hat on that game as proof that the Bears aren't good for 2 months. Losing at home to Seattle and to Washington with Cutler's 4 INTs added fuel to the fire.

 

Yes, those are justifications for having doubts about the Bears, but they aren't justification for ignoring other quality wins and pretending they can't possibly be better than those games indicated.

[bukie]

I also should say that this division will be won by an 11 win team. Honestly, both teams should be content with 3-2 records in the next 5. Neither team is better than NE and both NJ teams will be toss-ups although the Giants are playing worse than the Jets. Its fun to enjoy but I'm still skeptical despite a bad NFL.

 

The Pats lost by nearly 3 TD's on the road in Cleveland. They aren't unbeatable.

 

And neither GB or Chi plays NYG this season...unless I'm misunderstanding your post?

The Bears already played NYG. The Packers play them later.

[jersey cubs fan]

I also should say that this division will be won by an 11 win team. Honestly, both teams should be content with 3-2 records in the next 5. Neither team is better than NE and both NJ teams will be toss-ups although the Giants are playing worse than the Jets. Its fun to enjoy but I'm still skeptical despite a bad NFL.

 

Do you mean bad NFC? Bad NFL doesn't make sense. But bad NFC isn't accurate either. There is a bad NFC West (and a bad AFC West) but the division has several quality teams. Atlanta, New Orleans, Chicago, Green Bay, Philly and NY stand up against the best six the AFC offers up. Jets, Pats, Ravens, Steelers, who and who? San Diego?

[Banedon]

I also should say that this division will be won by an 11 win team. Honestly, both teams should be content with 3-2 records in the next 5. Neither team is better than NE and both NJ teams will be toss-ups although the Giants are playing worse than the Jets. Its fun to enjoy but I'm still skeptical despite a bad NFL.

 

The Pats lost by nearly 3 TD's on the road in Cleveland. They aren't unbeatable.

 

And neither GB or Chi plays NYG this season...unless I'm misunderstanding your post?

The Bears already played NYG. The Packers play them later.

 

Gotcha...was looking at the wrong schedule.

[Magnetic Curses]

i'm hoping for a bears-chargers super bowl now. i can dream, can't i?

 

cutler gets a chance to shove it right up phil rivers's ass.

[UMFan83]

I also should say that this division will be won by an 11 win team. Honestly, both teams should be content with 3-2 records in the next 5. Neither team is better than NE and both NJ teams will be toss-ups although the Giants are playing worse than the Jets. Its fun to enjoy but I'm still skeptical despite a bad NFL.

 

The Pats lost by nearly 3 TD's on the road in Cleveland. They aren't unbeatable.

 

And neither GB or Chi plays NYG this season...unless I'm misunderstanding your post?

The Bears already played NYG. The Packers play them later.

 

Yeah, the Packers play the Giants and the Bears play the Jets, both at home.

[Banedon]

i'm hoping for a bears-chargers super bowl now. i can dream, can't i?

 

cutler gets a chance to shove it right up phil rivers's ass.

 

Bears-Broncos is probably a long shot, eh? heh

[rawaction]

In defense of most of the world, that Giants game was possibly the worst game any offense has ever played.....not even an exaggeration. The media has hung it's hat on that game as proof that the Bears aren't good for 2 months. Losing at home to Seattle and to Washington with Cutler's 4 INTs added fuel to the fire.

 

Yes, those are justifications for having doubts about the Bears, but they aren't justification for ignoring other quality wins and pretending they can't possibly be better than those games indicated.

 

Oh I agree. No doubt. But the quality wins were always met with "BUT"

 

- But Dallas turned out to be a bad team

- But the Vikings turned out to be a bad team

- But the Packers had 14 penalties.

- But Miami was down to a 3rd string QB and backup OL

 

It's all BS, but just playing devil's advocate.

[UK1679666180]

I also should say that this division will be won by an 11 win team. Honestly, both teams should be content with 3-2 records in the next 5. Neither team is better than NE and both NJ teams will be toss-ups although the Giants are playing worse than the Jets. Its fun to enjoy but I'm still skeptical despite a bad NFL.

 

The Pats lost by nearly 3 TD's on the road in Cleveland. They aren't unbeatable.

 

And neither GB or Chi plays NYG this season...unless I'm misunderstanding your post?

There's no unbeatable team which is what I mean as far as a bad NFL having no dominant team or dynasty.

[jersey cubs fan]

I also should say that this division will be won by an 11 win team. Honestly, both teams should be content with 3-2 records in the next 5. Neither team is better than NE and both NJ teams will be toss-ups although the Giants are playing worse than the Jets. Its fun to enjoy but I'm still skeptical despite a bad NFL.

 

The Pats lost by nearly 3 TD's on the road in Cleveland. They aren't unbeatable.

 

And neither GB or Chi plays NYG this season...unless I'm misunderstanding your post?

There's no unbeatable team which is what I mean as far as a bad NFL having no dominant team or dynasty.

 

I don't get what that means. How does that make the league bad? It can only be bad if you compare it to something that is good, but the NFL is all there is. And it has lots of good football teams, and a handful of bad ones.

[UK1679666180]

That's what I mean that the quality isn't watered down but rather there's no one or two elite teams coming from typically a dynasty driven league (Packers-60s, Steelers-70s, Niners-80s, Cowboys-90s, Pats-00s). This is the parity the NFL has always desired.

[bukie]

In defense of most of the world, that Giants game was possibly the worst game any offense has ever played.....not even an exaggeration. The media has hung it's hat on that game as proof that the Bears aren't good for 2 months. Losing at home to Seattle and to Washington with Cutler's 4 INTs added fuel to the fire.

 

Yes, those are justifications for having doubts about the Bears, but they aren't justification for ignoring other quality wins and pretending they can't possibly be better than those games indicated.

 

Oh I agree. No doubt. But the quality wins were always met with "BUT"

 

- But Dallas turned out to be a bad team

- But the Vikings turned out to be a bad team

- But the Packers had 14 penalties.

- But Miami was down to a 3rd string QB and backup OL

 

It's all BS, but just playing devil's advocate.

One thing that bothers me about that Packers' game: The special teams' difference was a complete blowout, which counts, but also, the Bears had (I think) 8 chances from the opposing 1 yard line and ended up with 3 total points. Rodgers played practically a perfect game. And the game wasn't lopsided in spite of all that.

[jersey cubs fan]

That's what I mean that the quality isn't watered down but rather there's no one or two elite teams coming from typically a dynasty driven league (Packers-60s, Steelers-70s, Niners-80s, Cowboys-90s, Pats-00s). This is the parity the NFL has always desired.

 

People have been saying exactly what you just said for 10 years now. New England is still in its dynasty. Indy may have just ended theirs, but Pittsburgh is in their own run as well.

[jersey cubs fan]

Anyway, back to this game. The offense clearly won this game. The defense was stout when it mattered most, but their strengths matched up perfectly with Philly. Forcing Vick into dink and dunk mode and taking away the deep ball is what you have to do to beat him and it is pretty much what the Bears do every game. The problem will be when you face a QB who is better at that style, like Brady, Rodgers or maybe even a guy like Ryan or Brees in a potential playoff matchup. And god willing, Roethlisberger or Rivers.

[Guest]

I also should say that this division will be won by an 11 win team. Honestly, both teams should be content with 3-2 records in the next 5. Neither team is better than NE and both NJ teams will be toss-ups although the Giants are playing worse than the Jets. Its fun to enjoy but I'm still skeptical despite a bad NFL.

 

Do you mean bad NFC? Bad NFL doesn't make sense. But bad NFC isn't accurate either. There is a bad NFC West (and a bad AFC West) but the division has several quality teams. Atlanta, New Orleans, Chicago, Green Bay, Philly and NY stand up against the best six the AFC offers up. Jets, Pats, Ravens, Steelers, who and who? San Diego?

 

Definitely San Diego. Going into last night's game, they were #1 on both sides of the ball in yardage. The special teams play is why they lost so many games early on. It appears that they have made the necessary adjustments to their special teams to actually get their names mentioned among the best in the AFC. They won pretty impressively last night at Indy.

[bukie]

I'm not sure I can name 5 teams at this point worse than any NFC West team. Carolina, sure. Maybe Denver, Cincy or Buffalo. That'd be it, though.

[Banedon]

I'm not sure I can name 5 teams at this point worse than any NFC West team. Carolina, sure. Maybe Denver, Cincy or Buffalo. That'd be it, though.

 

Dallas?

[jersey cubs fan]

I also should say that this division will be won by an 11 win team. Honestly, both teams should be content with 3-2 records in the next 5. Neither team is better than NE and both NJ teams will be toss-ups although the Giants are playing worse than the Jets. Its fun to enjoy but I'm still skeptical despite a bad NFL.

 

Do you mean bad NFC? Bad NFL doesn't make sense. But bad NFC isn't accurate either. There is a bad NFC West (and a bad AFC West) but the division has several quality teams. Atlanta, New Orleans, Chicago, Green Bay, Philly and NY stand up against the best six the AFC offers up. Jets, Pats, Ravens, Steelers, who and who? San Diego?

 

Definitely San Diego. Going into last night's game, they were #1 on both sides of the ball in yardage. The special teams play is why they lost so many games early on. It appears that they have made the necessary adjustments to their special teams to actually get their names mentioned among the best in the AFC. They won pretty impressively last night at Indy.

 

Yeah, over a fairly weak Indy team. I can understand putting them up there, but it's hard to forgive losing to Oakland, St. Louis, KC and Seattle. The western divisions suck and they've lost four games to western teams. They also haven't beaten a team that is better than 6-5. They've loaded up on mediocrity, lost to bad teams, and lost to the only good team they've played. They do have cake schedule the rest of the way though. Either way, that resume of quality teams isn't any better than the NFC's.

[Banedon]

Yeah, over a fairly weak Indy team. I can understand putting them up there, but it's hard to forgive losing to Oakland, St. Louis, KC and Seattle. The western divisions suck and they've lost four games to western teams. They also haven't beaten a team that is better than 6-5. They've loaded up on mediocrity, lost to bad teams, and lost to the only good team they've played. They do have cake schedule the rest of the way though. Either way, that resume of quality teams isn't any better than the NFC's.

 

I understand that the NE and NYJ games are gonna be tough for the Bears, but I can't wait to watch those games. They should be much better contests than I think some "experts" have thought they'd be. Bears should have a very entertaining finish to this regular season.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not sure I can name 5 teams at this point worse than any NFC West team. Carolina, sure. Maybe Denver, Cincy or Buffalo. That'd be it, though.

 

Dallas?

 

Oakland is only 2-2 against that crappy division. They have been grossly overrated ever since beating KC in overtime. I think of the 8 western teams, San Diego is probably the best but the seven remaining teams are all sub standard. And while Detroit may be better than their record, they aren't good.

[Banedon]

I'm not sure I can name 5 teams at this point worse than any NFC West team. Carolina, sure. Maybe Denver, Cincy or Buffalo. That'd be it, though.

 

Dallas?

 

Oakland is only 2-2 against that crappy division. They have been grossly overrated ever since beating KC in overtime. I think of the 8 western teams, San Diego is probably the best but the seven remaining teams are all sub standard. And while Detroit may be better than their record, they aren't good.

 

Part of Oakland being overrated was that McFadden was actually producing for a while. He's been bad for a few games in a row now (as has my fantasy team as a result).