postseason awards thread

[javy knows my name]

NL Gold Gloves

 

P - Bronson Arroyo

C - Yadier Molina

1B - Albert Pujols

2B - Brandon Phillips

SS - Troy Tulowitzki

3B - Scott Rolen

OF - Michael Bourn

OF - Shane Victorino

OF - Carlos Gonzalez

This goes without saying, but that's a much, much better list

 

Is Rolen still a GG'r over there? Seemed less than impressive in the few games of his that I saw.

Agh, beat me but I was gonna say that he certainly wasn't better than Zimmerman. The aware was on rep alone, on a par with Jeter.

 

My only other problem on that list is Victorino. There are a slew of more deserving players.

[Outshined_One]

Agh, beat me but I was gonna say that he certainly wasn't better than Zimmerman. The aware was on rep alone, on a par with Jeter.

 

My only other problem on that list is Victorino. There are a slew of more deserving players.

 

Rolen getting the award wasn't Jeter bad, considering Rolen actually had a very good (but not great) year defensively at 3B. Zimmerman and Headley were clearly the best, but Rolen was behind them.

 

Victorino wasn't all that great, but the selection that most confused me was Carlos Gonzalez.

[OleMissCub]

 

Victorino wasn't all that great, but the selection that most confused me was Carlos Gonzalez.

 

Again, why did it "most confuse" you? Some of you are acting like Adolfo won the award or something. Gonzalez is a very good outfielder with a very good arm. No doubt his bat helped him, but I just don't see why it is so curious or why it is causing confusion that he won.

 

I'm glad to see Tulo finally getting his due after being totally robbed of it by Rollins in 07.

[TruffleShuffle]

 

Victorino wasn't all that great, but the selection that most confused me was Carlos Gonzalez.

 

Again, why did it "most confuse" you? Some of you are acting like Adolfo won the award or something. Gonzalez is a very good outfielder with a very good arm. No doubt his bat helped him, but I just don't see why it is so curious or why it is causing confusion that he won.

 

the defensive metrics do not support the idea that he was very good or even above-average in the OF this year, which is a more objective analysis than your statement of him being "pretty badass"

[OleMissCub]

 

Victorino wasn't all that great, but the selection that most confused me was Carlos Gonzalez.

 

Again, why did it "most confuse" you? Some of you are acting like Adolfo won the award or something. Gonzalez is a very good outfielder with a very good arm. No doubt his bat helped him, but I just don't see why it is so curious or why it is causing confusion that he won.

 

the defensive metrics do not support the idea that he was very good or even above-average in the OF this year, which is a more objective analysis than your statement of him being "pretty badass"

 

How snarky of you.

 

He looked very good to me, that's all I'm saying. Sorry if that's not as objective as FRAR or RF or whatever it is you are using, but it is what it is. It's unlikely that many voters for GG pay attention to metrics, so I don't see why it is confusing that a guy who (at least on the surface) played solid defense, made a bunch of flashy plays, and hit the [expletive] out of the ball this season gets a gold glove.

[Clem Fandango]

NL Silver Sluggers

 

C Brian McCann

1B Albert Pujols

2B Dan Uggla

3B Ryan Zimmermann

SS Troy Tulowitzki

OF Ryan Braun

OF Carlos Gonzalez

OF Matt Holiday

P Yovanni Gallardo

 

 

AL Silver Sluggers

 

C Joe Mauer

1B Miguel Cabrera

2B Robinson Cano

SS Alexei Ramirez

3B Adrian Beltre

OF Josh Hamilton

OF Jose Bautista

OF Carl Crawford

DH Vladimir Guerrero

[Outshined_One]

 

Victorino wasn't all that great, but the selection that most confused me was Carlos Gonzalez.

 

Again, why did it "most confuse" you? Some of you are acting like Adolfo won the award or something. Gonzalez is a very good outfielder with a very good arm. No doubt his bat helped him, but I just don't see why it is so curious or why it is causing confusion that he won.

 

the defensive metrics do not support the idea that he was very good or even above-average in the OF this year, which is a more objective analysis than your statement of him being "pretty badass"

 

How snarky of you.

 

He looked very good to me, that's all I'm saying. Sorry if that's not as objective as FRAR or RF or whatever it is you are using, but it is what it is. It's unlikely that many voters for GG pay attention to metrics, so I don't see why it is confusing that a guy who (at least on the surface) played solid defense, made a bunch of flashy plays, and hit the [expletive] out of the ball this season gets a gold glove.

 

I never got why good hitters should get Gold Gloves. Give it to the best defender for heaven's sake; we have the Silver Slugger for good hitters.

 

Also, given the selections in the AL, it's pretty obvious the voters don't care much for metrics...much less reality. As far as I can tell, it's all about name recognition, hitting, errors, and fielding percentage. If it's about those things, it's not about who is the best defender in the league at that position.

 

I'll give Gonzalez his due; his errors and fielding percentage were both good. However, digging deeper explained why his numbers were that way. His range and his arm were not very good. If a ball was hit to him, he was fine. Otherwise, he had some issues. Defensively, that's not what I'd want out of a guy who plays more than a third of his games in CF. Offensively, I can live with him. Defensively, I don't see why he got this Gold Glove. There were a number of better options, including Marlon Byrd.

[ELCABALLO45]

Werth probably deserved it more then Braun, but oh well.

 

And nice to see Gallardo get one as well!

[17 Seconds]

i didn't realize how horrible the AL shortstops were this season

[TruffleShuffle]

no offense to vlad guerrero, because he had a nice bounce-back year, but if no DH put up a better year than a .841 OPS and a 2.6 WAR, then the AL DH's were pretty damn bad this year.

 

after further review, it was definitely a down year for the DH but ortiz should have won.

[rocket]

poor votto still can't get any love

[Cubs Fan Dan]

no offense to vlad guerrero, because he had a nice bounce-back year, but if no DH put up a better year than a .841 OPS and a 2.6 WAR, then the AL DH's were pretty damn bad this year.

 

after further review, it was definitely a down year for the DH but ortiz should have won.

 

 

I was thinking the same thing.... If that is the case the Cubs could find a take for Soriano as a DH.

[ELCABALLO45]

no offense to vlad guerrero, because he had a nice bounce-back year, but if no DH put up a better year than a .841 OPS and a 2.6 WAR, then the AL DH's were pretty damn bad this year.

 

after further review, it was definitely a down year for the DH but ortiz should have won.

 

Jim Thome had a OPS of 1.039 and a WAR of 3.6.

 

In only 340 PA.

[TruffleShuffle]

no offense to vlad guerrero, because he had a nice bounce-back year, but if no DH put up a better year than a .841 OPS and a 2.6 WAR, then the AL DH's were pretty damn bad this year.

 

after further review, it was definitely a down year for the DH but ortiz should have won.

 

Jim Thome had a OPS of 1.039 and a WAR of 3.6.

 

In only 340 PA.

 

jeez, really? i guess i was only looking at qualified hitters.

[NewUserName]

no offense to vlad guerrero, because he had a nice bounce-back year, but if no DH put up a better year than a .841 OPS and a 2.6 WAR, then the AL DH's were pretty damn bad this year.

 

after further review, it was definitely a down year for the DH but ortiz should have won.

 

 

I was thinking the same thing.... If that is the case the Cubs could find a take for Soriano as a DH.

 

Soriano was an above average defensive LFer this year

[Tracer Bullet]

poor votto still can't get any love

 

that'll teach him to talk bad about Wrigley.

[ELCABALLO45]

Posey and Feliz win ROY's.

[Schwarber Fan]

AL MVP: Josh Hamilton

NL MVP: Joey Votto

 

AL Cy Young: Sabathia

NL Cy Young: Halladay

 

AL ROY: Feliz (not even close)

NL ROY: Posey

 

AL MGR: Washington

NL MGR: Baker

 

Check

Check

[UMFan83]

Did Starlin get any votes?

[NCCubFan]

Did Starlin get any votes?

Yes. Three third-place votes for three total points (tied for 5th in the voting).

[SouthSideRyan]

Did Volquez get any votes?

[TruffleShuffle]

haha, the pittsburgh writer voted posey #1, then neil walker and jose tabata #2/3. ahead of heyward. he should never be allowed to vote on anything baseball-related again.

[Clem Fandango]

Roy Halladay is clearly going to win the Cy Young award, but I'm curious to see how close Adam Wainwright will be. While Halladay's numbers are better, their numbers are nearly identical

 

Halladay: 21-10 2.44 ERA 250IP 219 K 1.04 WHIP 165 ERA+

Wainwright: 20-11 2.42 ERA 230IP 213 K 1.05 WHIP 161 ERA+

[Post Count Padder]

Halladay wins Cy Young

 

http://bbwaa.com/

[Guest]

Roy Halladay is clearly going to win the Cy Young award, but I'm curious to see how close Adam Wainwright will be. While Halladay's numbers are better, their numbers are nearly identical

 

Halladay: 21-10 2.44 ERA 250IP 219 K 1.04 WHIP 165 ERA+

Wainwright: 20-11 2.42 ERA 230IP 213 K 1.05 WHIP 161 ERA+

 

The voting was....not close.