NFL Week 8

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm assuming we'll draft fourth or fifth. Top five will likely be Buffalo, Carolina, San Francisco, Dallas, and Detroit. Cleveland could also be in that group as well.

 

Wow, top 5? Really? There are 10 teams with 2 wins or less and another 5 with 3 wins or less. Dallas faces 3 of those teams the rest of the year, plus a bunch of other mediocre and/or injury depleted teams. I would think only the Giants and Colts games are really scary. The league, and especially the NFC, is filled with mediocre teams. I think Dallas stands as good of a chance of picking outside the top 10 than in the top 5.

 

Dallas will be playing the next 6-8 weeks with Kitna at QB. We may beat Jacksonville, but then I can't see us beating the Giants or Packers with Kitna. So, assuming a win against the Jags, losses to Giants and Packers...then maybe a win at home against Detroit, losses to New Orleans, Indianapolis, and Philly...if Romo returns after missing 7 games, we would be 3-10 with three games to play. Those three games would be Philly, Washington, and Arizona.

 

Is 4-12 bad enough for a top five pick? I don't know, but it's surely likely.

 

It's not like they were playing with Peyton Manning before.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

The top 3 picks are going to Carolina, Buffalo and San Fran, in some order. Oakland, Arizona, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville and Chicago are not good teams, despite their records. Denver, Minnesota, Detroit, Cincinnati and Washington are more along the line of teams that will battle Dallas for draft position.

 

With Kitna at the helm, Dallas may not get to five wins. If they finish 4-12, it's likely to get a top five pick. I agree that Carolina, Buffalo, and SF are likely 1-3 in some order. Oakland already has 3 wins, so if they win 2 more they are at 5. Arizona, St. Louis, and SF are all in the same division and still play each other. Someone has to win those games, so that likely ups their win totals. Jacksonville is already at 3. They play Dallas on Sunday. Will a Kitna-led Cowboys team who just got demoralized on Monday be able to bounce back? I don't know. Chicago is already at four wins...and still gets to play Buffalo and Detroit.

 

Without Romo, I think Kitan wins 2 of the possible 6-8 games he will play (Detroit and Jacksonville). Maybe I'll be wrong, and as a Cowboys fan, no matter how bleak, I never root for my team to lose, so I will want them to win. I just don't see it. So, when Romo returns, I think we'll be 3-9, 3-10, or 3-11. Will Romo be able to run the table against Washington, Arizona, and Philly after sitting out all that time? If he has any setbacks at all...he may end up on IR.

 

So, I think Dallas could do as poor as 3-13 with 6-10 the absolute best I could hope for. 6-10 likely puts us somewhere around 8-12, 3-13 and we're probably 3-5.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm assuming we'll draft fourth or fifth. Top five will likely be Buffalo, Carolina, San Francisco, Dallas, and Detroit. Cleveland could also be in that group as well.

 

Wow, top 5? Really? There are 10 teams with 2 wins or less and another 5 with 3 wins or less. Dallas faces 3 of those teams the rest of the year, plus a bunch of other mediocre and/or injury depleted teams. I would think only the Giants and Colts games are really scary. The league, and especially the NFC, is filled with mediocre teams. I think Dallas stands as good of a chance of picking outside the top 10 than in the top 5.

 

Dallas will be playing the next 6-8 weeks with Kitna at QB. We may beat Jacksonville, but then I can't see us beating the Giants or Packers with Kitna. So, assuming a win against the Jags, losses to Giants and Packers...then maybe a win at home against Detroit, losses to New Orleans, Indianapolis, and Philly...if Romo returns after missing 7 games, we would be 3-10 with three games to play. Those three games would be Philly, Washington, and Arizona.

 

Is 4-12 bad enough for a top five pick? I don't know, but it's surely likely.

 

It's not like they were playing with Peyton Manning before.

 

The difference is Romo has some ability to elude rushers. The o-line hasn't held up well this year. Kitna is going to be demolished. Maybe he'll look better than he did last night after entering the game rusty, but it isn't promising. Romo may not be Peyton Manning, but he's a better QB than many give him credit for.

 

The drop off from Romo to Kitna is going to be huge, I fear.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'm assuming we'll draft fourth or fifth. Top five will likely be Buffalo, Carolina, San Francisco, Dallas, and Detroit. Cleveland could also be in that group as well.

 

Wow, top 5? Really? There are 10 teams with 2 wins or less and another 5 with 3 wins or less. Dallas faces 3 of those teams the rest of the year, plus a bunch of other mediocre and/or injury depleted teams. I would think only the Giants and Colts games are really scary. The league, and especially the NFC, is filled with mediocre teams. I think Dallas stands as good of a chance of picking outside the top 10 than in the top 5.

 

Dallas will be playing the next 6-8 weeks with Kitna at QB. We may beat Jacksonville, but then I can't see us beating the Giants or Packers with Kitna. So, assuming a win against the Jags, losses to Giants and Packers...then maybe a win at home against Detroit, losses to New Orleans, Indianapolis, and Philly...if Romo returns after missing 7 games, we would be 3-10 with three games to play. Those three games would be Philly, Washington, and Arizona.

 

Is 4-12 bad enough for a top five pick? I don't know, but it's surely likely.

 

It's the NFL, man. Teams rarely lose to all the teams they should and rarely beat all the ones they should. No Freaking Logic. I'd be surprised if Dallas gets a top 5 pick unless they just quit.

 

Lame duck coach, team loses the QB, it wouldn't shock me at all if there's a whole lot of quit on this team.

[sneakypower]

Kitna and especially Romo are much better than you guys are making them out to be

 

Dallas has way too much talent to finish with fewer than 5 or 6 wins

[TruffleShuffle]

i thought wade phillips was a lame duck coach the last two years. maybe jerry jones just likes his puppet.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Kitna and especially Romo are much better than you guys are making them out to be

 

Dallas has way too much talent to finish with fewer than 5 or 6 wins

 

Here's the remaining schedule. Remember that Kitna who hasn't played regularly in 2 years will be starting all but the last 2-3 games. Which of these are wins?

 

vs Jacksonville

@ Green Bay

@ Giants

vs Detroit

vs Saints

@Indianapolis

vs Eagles

vs Redskins

@ Arizona

@ Philly

 

I know the team has talent. But we went 1-5 through the easiest part of the schedule. Winning 6 games out of that remaining schedule would have been tough with Romo. Without him, it's even tougher. There are two, maybe three games there where the Cowboys will be favored. This team finishing 5-11 or 4-12 isn't out of the realm of possibility.

 

It's a shame that we're at this point as we shouldn't have dug this ugly a whole with the undisciplined play, but they did.

[Soul]

Kitna and especially Romo are much better than you guys are making them out to be

 

Dallas has way too much talent to finish with fewer than 5 or 6 wins

 

They do have games against DET and ARI. But they also have GB, PHI (2), NYG, IND, WAS, JAC

 

 

I'll go 5 wins. DET, ARI, WAS, and then a surprise win somewhere. Maybe they beat the Jags next week -- but it might be too soon.

[ELCABALLO45]

Romo is a huge loss for the Cowboys. I know a lot of people might think he is overrated but he is a really really good QB.

[ELCABALLO45]

I keep hearing rumblings of Brad Childress might be getting fired if the Vikings lose this Sunday. I have not seen a link for it yet but if someone finds one please post it.

 

However, if that is the case. GO VIKINGS!!!

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Kitna and especially Romo are much better than you guys are making them out to be

 

Dallas has way too much talent to finish with fewer than 5 or 6 wins

 

They do have games against DET and ARI. But they also have GB, PHI (2), NYG, IND, WAS, JAC

 

 

I'll go 5 wins. DET, ARI, WAS, and then a surprise win somewhere. Maybe they beat the Jags next week -- but it might be too soon.

 

I have us getting wins against the Jags, Lions, and Cardinals. That would have us at 4-12. That's probably bad enough for a top five draft pick.

[sneakypower]

the only two games that are unwinnable are @GB, @IND and @PHI, unless they're in a situation where they can rest their starters

[dew1679666265]

the only two games that are unwinnable are @GB, @IND and @PHI, unless they're in a situation where they can rest their starters

 

That's a lot of games to just be two of them . . .

 

Anyway, I think 4-5 wins is still worst case scenario for the Cowboys. There are a lot of tough games on that schedule, but as sneakypower said, there aren't many unwinnable games on there. The Cowboys will probably get a couple of wins they "shouldn't" get and, along with the weaker games, they ought to finish around 6-7 wins I would think.

 

A lot depends on Kitna. He's always been a solid QB and the effectiveness of the Cowboy offense will depend heavily on how well Kitna has aged. If he can play well in Romo's stead, the higher end of projections is in reach. If he stays rusty the entire time, however, 4-5 wins is very realistic.

[dew1679666265]

Here's a question:

 

If Kitna plays well and the Cowboys are able to go something like 7-3 the rest of the season, does it save Wade Phillips' job?

[hawkeyecub]

I keep hearing rumblings of Brad Childress might be getting fired if the Vikings lose this Sunday. I have not seen a link for it yet but if someone finds one please post it.

 

However, if that is the case. GO VIKINGS!!!

 

No way. That's garbage that that hack Michael Silver tried to drum up. He claims if they would have lost to the Cowboys he may have been fired after the game. I have a hard time believing he would be fired even if they go 7-9, 8-8 this year but there's no way I see it happening mid-season.

 

The only sense in it is that they really don't want to lose Frazier. Childress is better than he gets credit for though. His drafts have been really good on average.

[shnsajax]

Here's a question:

 

If Kitna plays well and the Cowboys are able to go something like 7-3 the rest of the season, does it save Wade Phillips' job?

 

Nope. The whole goal was to make the Super Bowl at home. Phillips has become a complete joke here and the media is destroying him. They Cowboys did the same thing last year and the year before. Phillips has had plenty of chances.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Here's a question:

 

If Kitna plays well and the Cowboys are able to go something like 7-3 the rest of the season, does it save Wade Phillips' job?

 

The only way Phillips keeps his job is if the Cowboys make the playoffs. I don't see anyway that happens. If Kitna goes 7-3, we'll still be 8-8 on the season.

 

The bad news for Phillips is the 1-5 start was accomplished with Romo, so he won't have the injury excuse to fall back on.

[Soul]

Here's a question:

 

If Kitna plays well and the Cowboys are able to go something like 7-3 the rest of the season, does it save Wade Phillips' job?

 

The only way Phillips keeps his job is if the Cowboys make the playoffs. I don't see anyway that happens. If Kitna goes 7-3, we'll still be 8-8 on the season.

 

The bad news for Phillips is the 1-5 start was accomplished with Romo, so he won't have the injury excuse to fall back on.

 

Sometimes a team under siege will rally. It's possible they could get their legs under them a bit and surprise a few teams.

 

I'm still thinking 5 wins though, maybe 6.

 

I would definitely fall out of my chair if Wade is back next year.

[UMFan83]

For some reason, I don't think Kitna is that bad. He's probably one of the better backups in the league. Does that mean they aren't going to miss Romo? Of course not, Romo is much better. That said, I think Kitna will keep them in games with the weapons he has to throw to.

 

Of course as old as Kitna is, I reserve the right to blame any crappy performance he has on his age regressing him. However, I thought he was really old and done when Palmer got hurt in the playoffs in 05 and he took over, and for the next 2 years started for Detroit and was actually decent.

[ELCABALLO45]

Packers LB Brad Jones played his best game of the year on Sunday against the Vikings.

 

Packers LB Brad Jones becomes the 10th Packer play placed on IR and the 5th starter this year.

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/105907508.html

[NCCubFan]

Packers LB Brad Jones played his best game of the year on Sunday against the Vikings.

 

Packers LB Brad Jones becomes the 10th Packer play placed on IR and the 5th starter this year.

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/105907508.html

Only the Cubs. :D

[hawkeyecub]

Karma for him hurting Favre.

[Banedon]

Karma for him hurting Favre.

 

Favre was the picture of health prior to that.

[Flames24Rulz]

Hopefully Favre's out for the year too. That'd be karma.

 

Actually, that'd probably suck considering Jackson is a better player than Favre right now.

[Guest]

Karma for him hurting Favre.

 

Actually, with karma, something good normally happens to a person who does something good.