Bears Game 5: Sunday Oct 10th at Carolina, Noon on FOX

[jersey cubs fan]

One of Gabe Carimi, Anthony Castonzo or Matt Reynolds could possibly be there for the Bears in the 1st.

 

They are all tackles though. And while I understand the entire line is weak.....Williams, Omiyale, and Webb are all still young.

 

FWIW, I don't like Carimi AT ALL. Castonzo is not going to be a stud OL (which I would like in the 1st). Reynolds is interesting.

 

Omiyale isn't young. He turns 28 next month, has been in the league for 6 seasons and isn't really starter material. They had 5 guys starting last game and I don't want any of them starting next season.

[Andy]

Unfortunately, the odds of us being lucky enough to draw Julius Peppers in one of his "don't try hard" games are zero considering the circumstances. He's going to go nuts and pound Clausen into the ground. I suppose we have a ghost of a chance if Todd Collins QBs for the Bears, but I'm not very optimistic when our best WR available is a rookie 6th round draft pick.

[rawaction]

Nate Solder and Demarcus Love are two other names I'm seeing suggested for the Bears in the 1st.

 

I'm not a big fan of any of the OTs in this class. A lot of 2-3 round talents that are going to be taken in the 1st because that's what teams do is draft a LT in the 1st round.

 

As for Love, I think he is more of a project. Not a day 1 starter at LT.

 

Solder has issues too. He's falling down draft boards, and wasn't a 1st rounder to begin with IMO.

 

On Carimi: Carimi was simply overhyped to start the season. He is a raw offensive line prospect. While he is a bit of a mauler in the run game, his technique in pass protection leaves a lot to be desired. He isn't a natural bender, and he struggles to move laterally. He can't play left tackle.

[Banedon]

Lets pretend for a sec here Raw, that the Bears have made their mind up that they're taking OL in the first round. Who you got?

[rawaction]

One of Gabe Carimi, Anthony Castonzo or Matt Reynolds could possibly be there for the Bears in the 1st.

 

They are all tackles though. And while I understand the entire line is weak.....Williams, Omiyale, and Webb are all still young.

 

FWIW, I don't like Carimi AT ALL. Castonzo is not going to be a stud OL (which I would like in the 1st). Reynolds is interesting.

 

Omiyale isn't young. He turns 28 next month, has been in the league for 6 seasons and isn't really starter material. They had 5 guys starting last game and I don't want any of them starting next season.

 

My bad, I thought Omiyale was 26 all season, which isn't a baby but big difference from 26 to 28.

 

And of course, none of us want any of the 5 starting next year for the Bears. The problem with that is, it's probably the most unrealistic thing to wish for in the NFL. You are not going to get 5 new lineman. Odds are, you are going to get Williams for 1 more year at one of the tackle spots at the very least. Then you still have Louis who is young and had been OK until Sunday (when he got hurt), so you'll likely get him again.

 

They aren't going to sign 2-3 new starters on the OL. And even if they spend their first 3 picks on OL, they aren't all going to start and be good right away.

 

If they can add 3/5 to the OL, I'd be fine with that. I think they need at least 1 veteran to stabilize the group and 2 guys from the draft are going to have to start or play major roles right away.

[rawaction]

Lets pretend for a sec here Raw, that the Bears have made their mind up that they're taking OL in the first round. Who you got?

 

Probably Derrek Sherrod out of Mississippi State. I also like Nate Potter out of Boise St. if he comes out this year. Reynolds from BYU is interesting.

[Guest]

I like Potter more than Carimi too. If you're drafting in the 20s, take Brewster from OSU and plug him in at guard or center.

 

This is not a good draft for offensive lineman at the top.

[rawaction]

I like Potter more than Carimi too. If you're drafting in the 20s, take Brewster from OSU and plug him in at guard or center.

 

This is not a good draft for offensive lineman at the top.

 

I like Brewster. He's a junior though. Not sure if he'll come out. Center is not a position where guys typically come out early, though we saw it last year w/ Pouncey.

[cubbyvirus00]

Bears cut DE Mark Anderson

 

Sign DE Charles Grant

 

 

 

LOL

[Keener98]

With all the talk about the lack of top talent Olineman in this years 1st round, would anybody be willing to trade our 1st round pick this year to the Patriots for Mankins? Surely it wouldnt take more than that, or is that too much? Hes 28 right now and hasn't missed a game since being drafted. Noone in the 1st round is going to be better than him if we pick in the 20's if I were to guess. Just throwing that out there

[jersey cubs fan]

Seriously? It was crazy to rely so much on him in the first place, but now he's just excess baggage? I recognize the other name and assume he's some old washed up guy.

[Guest]

Bears cut DE Mark Anderson

 

Sign DE Charles Grant

 

 

 

LOL

 

Oh my.

[Guest]

I like Potter more than Carimi too. If you're drafting in the 20s, take Brewster from OSU and plug him in at guard or center.

 

This is not a good draft for offensive lineman at the top.

 

I like Brewster. He's a junior though. Not sure if he'll come out. Center is not a position where guys typically come out early, though we saw it last year w/ Pouncey.

 

True about centers not coming out early but centers also used to not go in round 1 in years past (with rare exceptions like Damien Woody).

[Banedon]

Seriously? It was crazy to rely so much on him in the first place, but now he's just excess baggage? I recognize the other name and assume he's some old washed up guy.

 

He was involved in the Starcaps case, and now is in the UFL. Apparently we haven't yet signed him, we're working on it. So that means we released Anderson without a definite move in place. Something is fishy.

[jersey cubs fan]

With all the talk about the lack of top talent Olineman in this years 1st round, would anybody be willing to trade our 1st round pick this year to the Patriots for Mankins? Surely it wouldnt take more than that, or is that too much? Hes 28 right now and hasn't missed a game since being drafted. Noone in the 1st round is going to be better than him if we pick in the 20's if I were to guess. Just throwing that out there

 

No. I'm done dealing draft picks. This team is already far too reliant on older players. They are desperately in need of an influx of young bodies.

[jersey cubs fan]

Grant was indicted on a charge of involuntary manslaughter stemming from a February 2008 altercation at a nightclub in which a pregnant woman was shot to death outside a Blakely, Georgia nightclub. Korynda Reed, 23, and her unborn fetus died after being taken to the Southeast Alabama Medical Center in Dothan after the fight early in the morning of February 3, 2008. Grant has said that he was neither an instigator nor a participant in the fight. Grant was arraigned on August 15, 2008.[7] The criminal case was resolved in May 2010 when Grant pleaded guilty to a charge of public affray, he was assessed a $1,000 fine and a year's probation, and ordered to pay $20,000 for the cost of the investigation by the sheriff's office; the more serious involuntary murder charge was dismissed. Grant still faced a civil suit by the family of the victim.[8][9]

 

Virginia is going to love him.

[Keener98]

With all the talk about the lack of top talent Olineman in this years 1st round, would anybody be willing to trade our 1st round pick this year to the Patriots for Mankins? Surely it wouldnt take more than that, or is that too much? Hes 28 right now and hasn't missed a game since being drafted. Noone in the 1st round is going to be better than him if we pick in the 20's if I were to guess. Just throwing that out there

 

No. I'm done dealing draft picks. This team is already far too reliant on older players. They are desperately in need of an influx of young bodies.

 

I get that, but 28(will be 29 at start of next season) isn't that old for an olineman is it? Also drafting at 20 or beyond, the talent we can get there on the line will probably be nowhere near Mankins level. If we were going to pick earlier and could grab the best Guard/tackle in the draft I wouldnt do it either, but picking in the 18 and on range, and Angelo's complete lack of ability to draft a good lineman, Id think very hard about it if the Pats would do it.

[Keener98]

Seriously? It was crazy to rely so much on him in the first place, but now he's just excess baggage? I recognize the other name and assume he's some old washed up guy.

 

He was involved in the Starcaps case, and now is in the UFL. Apparently we haven't yet signed him, we're working on it. So that means we released Anderson without a definite move in place. Something is fishy.

 

Grant has signed according to the Bears website.

[jersey cubs fan]

With all the talk about the lack of top talent Olineman in this years 1st round, would anybody be willing to trade our 1st round pick this year to the Patriots for Mankins? Surely it wouldnt take more than that, or is that too much? Hes 28 right now and hasn't missed a game since being drafted. Noone in the 1st round is going to be better than him if we pick in the 20's if I were to guess. Just throwing that out there

 

No. I'm done dealing draft picks. This team is already far too reliant on older players. They are desperately in need of an influx of young bodies.

 

I get that, but 28(will be 29 at start of next season) isn't that old for an olineman is it? Also drafting at 20 or beyond, the talent we can get there on the line will probably be nowhere near Mankins level. If we were going to pick earlier and could grab the best Guard/tackle in the draft I wouldnt do it either, but picking in the 18 and on range, and Angelo's complete lack of ability to draft a good lineman, Id think very hard about it if the Pats would do it.

 

29 isn't young. You can last a long time on the line, but you can also decline in a hurry. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, but it's incredibly risky to go three straight years without a #1 pick and with your only significant acquisitions being veterans.

[Banedon]

With all the talk about the lack of top talent Olineman in this years 1st round, would anybody be willing to trade our 1st round pick this year to the Patriots for Mankins? Surely it wouldnt take more than that, or is that too much? Hes 28 right now and hasn't missed a game since being drafted. Noone in the 1st round is going to be better than him if we pick in the 20's if I were to guess. Just throwing that out there

 

No. I'm done dealing draft picks. This team is already far too reliant on older players. They are desperately in need of an influx of young bodies.

 

I get that, but 28(will be 29 at start of next season) isn't that old for an olineman is it? Also drafting at 20 or beyond, the talent we can get there on the line will probably be nowhere near Mankins level. If we were going to pick earlier and could grab the best Guard/tackle in the draft I wouldnt do it either, but picking in the 18 and on range, and Angelo's complete lack of ability to draft a good lineman, Id think very hard about it if the Pats would do it.

 

Mankins is a UFA after the season. A first rounder is way too steep a price in that case, but I doubt the Pats have a lot of incentive to trade him.

[Keener98]

Well this is encouraging news.....

 

Only Raheem Brock graded worse than Charles Grant in '09 as a 4-3 DE. Grant was awful vs run and pass. M. Anderson ranked 30 places higher

 

profootballfocus.com

[jersey cubs fan]

But the Bears have coaches!!!

[Keener98]

Haha it gets even better.

 

So he opted instead to play for the Omaha Nighthawks. But after only two games, the Omaha Nighthawks have decided not to have Grant play for them.

 

Grant was removed from the the team's active roster on Monday.

 

The guy couldnt even stick on a UFL roster?

[jersey cubs fan]

What the hell is going on here? One horrific game and everything goes downhill?

[Soul]

LOL, what the hell man.