The Ryne Sandberg Thread

[jersey cubs fan]

I wonder how Ryno would have been viewed by fans had he not played in the 80's early 90's and instead pulled his BS "sign huge contract, start to decline rapidly, quit, come back and keep sucking" routine in the 2000's. I loved the guy as a kid, but he had and still has zero personality and it was quite easy to essentially forget about him right after he quit on the team the first time.

[Sammy Sofa]

I wonder how Ryno would have been viewed by fans had he not played in the 80's early 90's and instead pulled his BS "sign huge contract, start to decline rapidly, quit, come back and keep sucking" routine in the 2000's. I loved the guy as a kid, but he had and still has zero personality and it was quite easy to essentially forget about him right after he quit on the team the first time.

 

Yeah, as a kid I was never a huge super fan of Sandberg. It's not like I disliked the guy or rooted against him, and I was certainly glad he was on the team...but he was so damn boring. I remember liking guys like Dawson and Maddux and Grace and Sosa a lot more.

[Soul]

I wonder how Ryno would have been viewed by fans had he not played in the 80's early 90's and instead pulled his BS "sign huge contract, start to decline rapidly, quit, come back and keep sucking" routine in the 2000's. I loved the guy as a kid, but he had and still has zero personality and it was quite easy to essentially forget about him right after he quit on the team the first time.

 

Yeah, as a kid I was never a huge super fan of Sandberg. It's not like I disliked the guy or rooted against him, and I was certainly glad he was on the team...but he was so damn boring. I remember liking guys like Dawson and Maddux and Grace and Sosa a lot more.

 

And I think one of the big reasons I liked Sandberg was this whole "he plays the game the right way" kind of crap.

 

As I've gotten older, I have abandoned that kind of thinking more. I'd prefer to leave Ryno as a pleasant memory from the past. I don't think he'll succeed now, and I'd rather not sit around and watch him become the blame target for angry fans who don't know any better while Jim Hendry lurks in the shadows escaping his well-deserved share.

 

Just choose someone else, please.

[Old Style]

There was no batting practice today, but Ryne Sandberg was out early, first hitting fungos to the outfielders and then leading infield practice. Ryno says he a believer in taking infield practice, a lost art in the major leagues today.

Uh oh. I'm sure this is wrong. I'm not sure why, but I'm sure the next 5 people to reply will tell me.

[SouthSideRyan]

He sounds like he'll make a hell of a little league coach

[lumafia]

There was no batting practice today, but Ryne Sandberg was out early, first hitting fungos to the outfielders and then leading infield practice. Ryno says he a believer in taking infield practice, a lost art in the major leagues today.

Uh oh. I'm sure this is wrong. I'm not sure why, but I'm sure the next 5 people to reply will tell me.

 

Infield practice a lost art? I always get to the ballparks early and I always see guys taking grounders. Maybe they are referring to the pre-game infield/outfield. I haven't seen that in a while.

[hardcorecubfan]

He sounds like he'll make a hell of a little league coach

 

 

I wish someone would give Alfonso Soriano some outfield practice

[MSG T]

He sounds like he'll make a hell of a little league coach

 

 

I wish someone would give Alfonso Soriano some outfield practice

 

 

From what I've heard, he actually works pretty hard at it. Which makes it even scarier.

[NCCubFan]

Much of the discussion in this thread is precisely why Phil Wrigley was never willing to hire Ernie Banks as manager. He knew that if he hired Ernie he'd also need to be willing to fire him if necessary, and he knew he couldn't bring himself to do that.

[dew1679666265]

I'm hurt. I thought this was going to be my first ever stickied thread.

[dew1679666265]

Bruce Miles' interview with Ryne Sandberg.

 

"Well, how do you get a start?" he asked Monday before his Class AAA Iowa Cubs played Nashville. "Every manager that got an opportunity started somewhere. I'm in that boat. I'm waiting for that opportunity. I'm waiting for somebody to tell me that I'm ready.

 

"Honestly, my focus is with these games that are yet to be played here," he said. "I'm not looking beyond that. But I understand there will be a process for the next manager that Jim Hendry will go through. I've been told that I will be a candidate. That is somewhat flattering, and I feel comfortable with that."

 

More to come as well on Bruce's blog.

 

We’ll have much more from Ryne Sandberg for the paper tomorrow (it may get posted later today). I talk to him about his managerial style, handling the media, using statistics and handling big-league players.

 

Once again, I found Ryne quite expansive and thoughtful in his answers. He was certainly generous with his time.

[dew1679666265]

The interview is great by the way Bruce!

[Outshined_One]

I'm hurt. I thought this was going to be my first ever stickied thread.

 

:old_alright:

 

...fine, fine.

[jersey cubs fan]

I hate just about every word that came out of his mouth in this segment

 

"I like movement on the bases. I like to hit-and-run. I like to go for the win and force the issue and try to win a game as opposed to sitting back.

 

"It's somewhat gut feeling. It's somewhat experience. It's all those things making a split-(second) decision. It's whatever the game calls for at that time, and whatever my instincts tell me to do."

 

 

 

"There are stats there that mean something. What you can do with that is accumulate that type of information and relay that to the players, if necessary."

 

What the hell is he talking about? Stats aren't something you relay to players depending on game situation.

[SouthSideRyan]

The entire paragraph on stats was complete gibberish.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I think he's talking about accumulated scouting statistics. Things like "This guy hits to the left side 60% of the time against this type of pitch" or something.

[Sammy Sofa]

Holy hell, what a nightmare.

[J.R.]

This idea was brought up and nobody had done it yet, so I figured why not. The following are the many reasons given on this board as to why Ryne Sandberg should not be the manager of the Chicago Cubs:

 

I would add his autobiography, penned with help from pal Barry Rozner - Second to Home.

 

In it, he mocks the practice of watching video for instructional purposes, excoriates Sammy Sosa by name a decade before his HOF speech, and lays out his desire to carry the torch for the baseball philosophies of Dallas Green and the late 1970s Philadelphia Phillies organization into perpetuity.

[Tracer Bullet]

The entire paragraph on stats was complete gibberish.

 

I'm more against him now that I was 10 minutes ago.

[jersey cubs fan]

The entire paragraph on stats was complete gibberish.

 

I'm more against him now that I was 10 minutes ago.

 

I think it's even more dangerous than the baseball person who spits at stats. It's the Jim Hendry style of placating people by focusing on a couple stats to make it look like you're into it.

[ConstableRabbit]

Good God. DO NOT WANT.

[bhogg]

That book was written 15 years ago. . . . .still in the dark ages of baseball statistics. It's entirely possible that he's changed his mind.

 

Not that I'm for him being manager, however. . ..

[jersey cubs fan]

That book was written 15 years ago. . . . .still in the dark ages of baseball statistics. It's entirely possible that he's changed his mind.

 

It may have been possible, but it clearly hasn't happened.

[Soul]

Good God. DO NOT WANT.

 

LOL, yeah.

[Magnetic Curses]

I hate just about every word that came out of his mouth in this segment

 

"I like movement on the bases. I like to hit-and-run. I like to go for the win and force the issue and try to win a game as opposed to sitting back.

 

"It's somewhat gut feeling. It's somewhat experience. It's all those things making a split-(second) decision. It's whatever the game calls for at that time, and whatever my instincts tell me to do."

 

 

 

"There are stats there that mean something. What you can do with that is accumulate that type of information and relay that to the players, if necessary."

 

What the hell is he talking about? Stats aren't something you relay to players depending on game situation.

 

stats are something you never relay to players. stats are something the manager and GM are responsible for interpreting, and this is pretty much why you should never even let the manager interpret them, because they will misunderstand them and get so twisted around in their own logic that they'll be bunting with their [expletive] number 3 hitter with 2 men on.

 

ryno is an idiot. a beloved chicago sports icon who will only be valuable as a manager if he is hog-tied by the gm. but, recalling moneyball, ex-players like ryno and art howe don't much care for being figureheads, they really really want the chance to micromanage titanics like the mets or cubs to the bottom of the ocean.