05/11 Florida (Nolasco) @ CUBS (Wells) 7:05 CDT, CSN TV

[Keener98]

If Lee and Ramirez don't start hitting it doesn't really matter if he hits Marmol 4th, the season is lost. Might as well keep them and bank on their years of experience at being good hitters.

 

Keep them in lineup yes, but keeping them in the heart of the order while 2 guys OPS over 1.000 in the 6 and 7 spot....no. Let them work their kinks out in the bottom of the lineup, not right in the middle where most of their RBI chances should come.

[Guest]

If Lee and Ramirez don't start hitting it doesn't really matter if he hits Marmol 4th, the season is lost. Might as well keep them and bank on their years of experience at being good hitters.

 

Keep them in lineup yes, but keeping them in the heart of the order while 2 guys OPS over 1.000 in the 6 and 7 spot....no. Let them work their kinks out in the bottom of the lineup, not right in the middle where most of their RBI chances should come.

 

Again, if they don't pick it up it doesn't matter, so you may as well keep them there and hope today is the day they bounce back, especially since the guys who would be there instead have sketchy histories too. I guess if you think there's something physically wrong with Ramirez you could move him down, but really the frustration is misplaced.

[Keener98]

If Lee and Ramirez don't start hitting it doesn't really matter if he hits Marmol 4th, the season is lost. Might as well keep them and bank on their years of experience at being good hitters.

 

Keep them in lineup yes, but keeping them in the heart of the order while 2 guys OPS over 1.000 in the 6 and 7 spot....no. Let them work their kinks out in the bottom of the lineup, not right in the middle where most of their RBI chances should come.

 

Again, if they don't pick it up it doesn't matter, so you may as well keep them there and hope today is the day they bounce back, especially since the guys who would be there instead have sketchy histories too. I guess if you think there's something physically wrong with Ramirez you could move him down, but really the frustration is misplaced.

 

Why can you only move him down if something is physically wrong? Move them down and if today is the day they break out, great, because the 2 guys who should be hitting in front of them will probably be on base like they have been all year. Its a win win if you move them down. If they struggle fine, if they start hitting, great, because that means Byrd, Sori, and Soto will probably be scoring a lot of runs in the game.

[UMFan83]

Lineup via OPS

 

Fukudome .978

Theriot .733

Byrd .956

Lee .654

Ramirez .486

Soriano 1.050

Soto 1.048

Castro 1.089

Wells .697

 

Can anyone make any sense of this?

 

Yeah we have 5 hitters hitting well, 1 thats hitting near career norms, 2 sucking really badly, and a pitcher.

[Guest]

Why can you only move him down if something is physically wrong? Move them down and if today is the day they break out, great, because the 2 guys who should be hitting in front of them will probably be on base like they have been all year. Its a win win if you move them down. If they struggle fine, if they start hitting, great, because that means Byrd, Sori, and Soto will probably be scoring a lot of runs in the game.

 

It wouldn't be a bad thing if they moved them down, it's just not worth getting upset over them not. Put it this way, going forward, who has the better remainder of the season, Lee or Byrd/Soriano? Can you say Byrd or Soriano with enough confidence to justify mocking the decision to keep Lee in the heart of the order?

[Keener98]

Why can you only move him down if something is physically wrong? Move them down and if today is the day they break out, great, because the 2 guys who should be hitting in front of them will probably be on base like they have been all year. Its a win win if you move them down. If they struggle fine, if they start hitting, great, because that means Byrd, Sori, and Soto will probably be scoring a lot of runs in the game.

 

It wouldn't be a bad thing if they moved them down, it's just not worth getting upset over them not. Put it this way, going forward, who has the better remainder of the season, Lee or Byrd/Soriano? Can you say Byrd or Soriano with enough confidence to justify mocking the decision to keep Lee in the heart of the order?

 

But its not about who has the better remainder of the season, its who is having the better season/week at this point. I wasnt clamoring for Lee/Aram to be moved down when they 1st started struggling, but this has evolved way past a mini slump. We are talking 15 for his last 90 with 1 HR, and 1 double for Lee in that span, and Aram has been all year. Once they start hitting you move them back up, its not like they are being moved down for some slouches, or have to remain there for the rest of the year. They need to start winning games on a DAILY basis, and not worry about who has the better numbers at the end of the season, because right now, Sori and Soto are head and shoulders above Lee/Aram.

[jersey cubs fan]

Why can you only move him down if something is physically wrong? Move them down and if today is the day they break out, great, because the 2 guys who should be hitting in front of them will probably be on base like they have been all year. Its a win win if you move them down. If they struggle fine, if they start hitting, great, because that means Byrd, Sori, and Soto will probably be scoring a lot of runs in the game.

 

It wouldn't be a bad thing if they moved them down, it's just not worth getting upset over them not. Put it this way, going forward, who has the better remainder of the season, Lee or Byrd/Soriano? Can you say Byrd or Soriano with enough confidence to justify mocking the decision to keep Lee in the heart of the order?

 

But its not about who has the better remainder of the season, its who is having the better season/week at this point. I wasnt clamoring for Lee/Aram to be moved down when they 1st started struggling, but this has evolved way past a mini slump. We are talking 15 for his last 90 with 1 HR, and 1 double for Lee in that span, and Aram has been all year. Once they start hitting you move them back up, its not like they are being moved down for some slouches, or have to remain there for the rest of the year. They need to start winning games on a DAILY basis, and not worry about who has the better numbers at the end of the season, because right now, Sori and Soto are head and shoulders above Lee/Aram.

 

They have been better, so far. But what they have done so far this year tells you nothing about what they will do today.

[Guest]

Why can you only move him down if something is physically wrong? Move them down and if today is the day they break out, great, because the 2 guys who should be hitting in front of them will probably be on base like they have been all year. Its a win win if you move them down. If they struggle fine, if they start hitting, great, because that means Byrd, Sori, and Soto will probably be scoring a lot of runs in the game.

 

It wouldn't be a bad thing if they moved them down, it's just not worth getting upset over them not. Put it this way, going forward, who has the better remainder of the season, Lee or Byrd/Soriano? Can you say Byrd or Soriano with enough confidence to justify mocking the decision to keep Lee in the heart of the order?

 

But its not about who has the better remainder of the season, its who is having the better season/week at this point. I wasnt clamoring for Lee/Aram to be moved down when they 1st started struggling, but this has evolved way past a mini slump. We are talking 15 for his last 90 with 1 HR, and 1 double for Lee in that span, and Aram has been all year. Once they start hitting you move them back up, its not like they are being moved down for some slouches, or have to remain there for the rest of the year. They need to start winning games on a DAILY basis, and not worry about who has the better numbers at the end of the season, because right now, Sori and Soto are head and shoulders above Lee/Aram.

 

Lee and Ramirez have had stretches like this before, although like I said, Ramirez is slightly different as it appears there's something else wrong. Betting on the guy who's hot is a good way to torment yourself. We've had enough games that it's not unreasonable to move them down, but getting upset like it's a no-brainer to do so? We're not that far along yet.

[Fred Hornkohl]

04/05 - 05/10        OPS   RBI%
Fukudome           0.978  0.325
Theriot            0.733  0.235
Byrd               0.956  0.213
D Lee              0.654  0.159
Ramirez            0.486  0.156
Soriano            1.050  0.283
Soto               1.048  0.182
Castro             1.089  0.357
Wells              0.697  0.000

 

:scratch:

[Ryno is God 23]

The old man is desperate.

Why not bump Soriano up, Soto up or hell drop The Fook down? I just don't get going back to having Lee/ARAM back to back? What in the world is dropping Lee from 3rd to 4th going to do?

I would also like to see Castro not batting 8th but fix the middle of the line up first.

 

[jersey cubs fan]

The old man is desperate.

Why not bump Soriano up, Soto up or hell drop The Fook down? I just don't get going back to having Lee/ARAM back to back? What in the world is dropping Lee from 3rd to 4th going to do?

I would also like to see Castro not batting 8th but fix the middle of the line up first.

 

 

why drop the fook down?

[Ryno is God 23]

The old man is desperate.

Why not bump Soriano up, Soto up or hell drop The Fook down? I just don't get going back to having Lee/ARAM back to back? What in the world is dropping Lee from 3rd to 4th going to do?

I would also like to see Castro not batting 8th but fix the middle of the line up first.

 

 

why drop the fook down?

 

More so trying to make the point that dropping Lee from 3rd to 4th to have him back to back with ARAM is dumb, that anything else is a better idea.

I will retract that, since the top has not been the problem.

Give Sori a shot at 3/4 in the order.

[haubrich91]

I read somewhere online a reason Soto hasn't moved up is cause Lou doesn't want to change something when he's comfortable there.

 

Very, very retarted. We're losing, do what you must to make us not lose. Can't wait until new blood is in here.

[98navigator]

This game is on CSN + due to the Blackhawks game

 

The game will start on CSN and be moved to plus at 8pm to make room for Blackhawks pregame.

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 14-10 when they don't allow any first inning runs.... 0-9 when they do

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[A-Cal]

I am excited! This is the first time I get to Starlin in live game action! Hopefully, the Cubs pull out a victory.

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS have allowed at least 1 HR in 12 of their last 13 games

CUBS are 10-6 when they score first in the game.... 4-13 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[JonJayCutler]

Same story, different night.

[Careless]

Didn't expect that homer to get out on a night where you can see their breath

[Careless]

Werth has almost as many doubles as Ramirez has hits?

[Cubswin11]

Soto smashed that ball, probably gets out 65-70 of the games played this year at Wrigley

[Fred Hornkohl]

What's the over/under on the number of warning track outs the CUBS will make tonight ??

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS have outscored the opponents 23-8 in the 3rd inning.

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Ballgame64]

Fukudome leads off with a single and doesn't move. The Marlins get a one out walk and then a two out, two run homer. Then Ramirez and Soto hit deep drives to center that are only loud outs tonight. That pretty much typifies the Cubs season so far.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Gaby Sanchez ???