05/11 Florida (Nolasco) @ CUBS (Wells) 7:05 CDT, CSN TV

[KaiserCesar]

Pre-2003 this team was hopeless waaaaaaaaaaaay more often than not.

 

But IMO they were comically bad, so I could laugh, this team doesn't provide any entertaining or redeemin g feature. They are boring and bad.

 

2001 was pretty hopeful at times, but when you got Matt Stairs and Ron Coomer anchoring your corner infield spots and Fred McGriff would rather play for TB than the Cubs, you couldn't help but laugh a little.

[Careless]

CUBS are 12-10 when their pitchers average 16 pitches per inning or less.... 2-9 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

Anyone have numbers on the predictive power of that stat or one like it?

2001 was pretty hopeful at times, but when you got Matt Stairs and Ron Coomer anchoring your corner infield spots and Fred McGriff would rather play for TB than the Cubs, you couldn't help but laugh a little.

If you're in the playoff hunt in August, the year wasn't that bad

Edited May 12, 2010 by Careless

[Fred Hornkohl]

man on 1st  1 out       AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA     RC   IsoD   RBI%
K Hill                   2    0    2    0    0    0    0    0    0  1.000  1.000  1.000  2.000  1.000  4.00    2.0  0.000  0.000
Soriano                  8    2    5    0    0    1    2    1    3  0.625  0.667  1.000  1.667  1.000  4.56    5.3  0.042  0.250
Colvin                   4    1    2    1    0    0    0    0    2  0.500  0.500  0.750  1.250  1.000  4.00    1.5  0.000  0.000
Byrd                    10    2    4    2    0    0    0    0    0  0.400  0.400  0.600  1.000  0.400  2.90    2.4  0.000  0.000
Fontenot                 6    1    3    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.500  0.500  0.500  1.000  0.500  3.67    1.5  0.000  0.000
Tracy                    2    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.500  0.500  0.500  1.000  1.000  3.00    0.5  0.000  0.000
D Lee                   17    4    6    1    0    0    0    2    2  0.353  0.421  0.412  0.833  0.400  4.42    2.9  0.068  0.000
Soto                     5    0    2    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.400  0.400  0.400  0.800  0.500  3.20    0.8  0.000  0.000
Theriot                  6    0    2    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.333  0.333  0.333  0.667  0.400  2.67    0.7  0.000  0.000
Nady                     4    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    2  0.250  0.250  0.250  0.500  0.500  2.75    0.3  0.000  0.000
Ramirez                  8    0    1    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.125  0.125  0.125  0.250  0.143  2.75    0.1  0.000  0.000
Fukudome                 3    0    0    0    0    0    0    1    1  0.000  0.250  0.000  0.250  0.000  4.00    0.0  0.250  0.000
Baker                    2    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  4.50    0.0  0.000  0.000

CUBS                    78   10   29    4    0    1    2    4   14  0.372  0.402  0.462  0.864  0.444  3.44   14.5  0.031  0.020

[bcl412]

Pre-2003 this team was hopeless waaaaaaaaaaaay more often than not.

 

But IMO they were comically bad, so I could laugh, this team doesn't provide any entertaining or redeemin g feature. They are boring and bad.

 

2001 was pretty hopeful at times, but when you got Matt Stairs and Ron Coomer anchoring your corner infield spots and Fred McGriff would rather play for TB than the Cubs, you couldn't help but laugh a little.

 

2001 is probably my most memorable year as a Cubs fan for some reason (been a fan since 98). Probably because it came out of no where.

[Sammy Sofa]

Pre-2003 this team was hopeless waaaaaaaaaaaay more often than not.

 

But IMO they were comically bad, so I could laugh, this team doesn't provide any entertaining or redeemin g feature. They are boring and bad.

 

Yeah, I see your point. The "fun" of the bad Cubs seems to have been lost since 2003. I don't like the "lovable loser" crap, but pre-2003 they were just SO hopelessly inept that you just had to go with it. Since 2003 and 2004 it's just depressing and anger-inducing when they suck.

[Ballgame64]

What the [expletive] was that, Wells? Bunt the [expletive] ball, you [expletive] [expletive].

Was it supposed to be a hit and run?

 

With the pitcher?

He was squared around to bunt, pulled the bat back and swung so it would seem Lou might have tried something. Who knows. LaRussa pulls it off 3 or 4 times a year. Maybe Lou was trying to surprise them.

[Sammy Sofa]

Pre-2003 this team was hopeless waaaaaaaaaaaay more often than not.

 

But IMO they were comically bad, so I could laugh, this team doesn't provide any entertaining or redeemin g feature. They are boring and bad.

 

2001 was pretty hopeful at times, but when you got Matt Stairs and Ron Coomer anchoring your corner infield spots and Fred McGriff would rather play for TB than the Cubs, you couldn't help but laugh a little.

 

2001 is probably my most memorable year as a Cubs fan for some reason (been a fan since 98). Probably because it came out of no where.

 

Definitely. 1989 and 1998 were the same way for me. 1984 would have been the same, but that was the first year I really paid attention to baseball, so I kinda got set up for a let down.

Edited May 12, 2010 by Sammy Sofa

[Ballgame64]

The Cubs found some good luck! Come on Aram, tie this game up and then Sori can give them the lead. Edited May 12, 2010 by Ballgame64

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 12-10 when their pitchers average 16 pitches per inning or less.... 2-9 when they don't

 

 

Go CUBS !!

Anyone have numbers on the predictive power of that stat or one like it?

 

I haven't run the regression on it, but from playing with that particular parameter for several years now, it does seem to be fairly constant. So I'm gonna say, without the numbers to back it up, that the correlation is pretty strong.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm just at a complete loss as to what's happened to Aramis. That pitch he popped out on should be one that he annihilated.

[Wolfgangbucks]

If I was my own batting coach I would suggest to myself that swinging as hard as I could in effort to pull a pitch that was low and away was a bad strategy...................

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 1-9 when they trail by 2 runs or more at the end of the 6th inning.

 

 

Go CUBS !!!

[Fred Hornkohl]

I'm just at a complete loss as to what's happened to Aramis. That pitch he popped out on should be one that he annihilated.

 

That's what Piniella said.

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 3-6 in one run games .... 2-6 in two runs games

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[MWV]

Wells bounced back nicely over the past 4 innings.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Last time the CUBS held the opponents to 4 hits in a game.... Wed 28 Apr 10 (4 hits) in a 3-2 loss to Washington at Wrigley

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Fred Hornkohl]

This clown couldn't carry a tune in a bushel basket !!

[Wolfgangbucks]

I have a hunch Wells won't remain in the rotation much longer.

 

Yep dude sucks..................

[KaiserCesar]

Wells bounced back nicely over the past 4 innings.

 

The pitch count has stayed low, too. Pretty good start, he just needs a few runs aka a miracle for a win

[Fred Hornkohl]

Wells bounced back nicely over the past 4 innings.

 

He was intimidated by your remark about taking him out of the rotation !! :wink:

 

edit: oops ! that wasn't you. :oops:

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS are 0-10 when they trail by 2 runs or more at the end of the 7th inning.

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[Cubswin11]

I have a hunch Wells won't remain in the rotation much longer.

 

Yep dude sucks..................

I am a big fan of Wells and don't think he should be taken out. But I think this team is still looking to make changes to try and turn things around if they are going to mess with the rotation (which they shouldn't it's been the best/most consistent part of the team) Wells seems like the guy who is most replaceable based on salary, options, and performance so far this year (which hasn't been all that bad).

[Fred Hornkohl]

Late (7th on)      AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP  P/PA     RC   IsoD   RBI%
Soto               29    6   12    3    0    1    2    8    6  0.414  0.541  0.621  1.161  0.500  4.03    9.7  0.127  0.167
Byrd               42   10   17    5    0    1    3    1    6  0.405  0.457  0.595  1.052  0.457  3.91   11.4  0.052  0.105
Soriano            30    4   10    3    0    2    7    4    9  0.333  0.412  0.633  1.045  0.421  4.24    7.8  0.078  0.455
Theriot            41    7   17    1    0    0    6    2    7  0.415  0.442  0.439  0.881  0.500  3.50    8.0  0.027  0.462
Baker              17    5    5    0    0    1    1    2    4  0.294  0.368  0.471  0.839  0.333  3.63    2.9  0.074  0.000
D Lee              38    4    8    2    0    2    8    8    7  0.211  0.348  0.421  0.769  0.207  4.30    5.6  0.137  0.222
Fukudome           30    3    8    0    0    1    9    7    6  0.267  0.385  0.367  0.751  0.304  4.26    4.2  0.118  0.421
Colvin             25    6    5    1    0    2    4    2   10  0.200  0.259  0.480  0.739  0.231  4.14    3.1  0.059  0.105
Fontenot           26    2    4    0    0    1    5    3    7  0.154  0.233  0.269  0.503  0.167  4.27    1.6  0.079  0.222
Castro              6    1    1    1    0    0    0    0    1  0.167  0.167  0.333  0.500  0.200  4.17    0.3  0.000  0.000
Ramirez            41    4    5    2    0    0    4    8   14  0.122  0.265  0.171  0.436  0.185  4.08    1.9  0.143  0.125
Nady               16    0    1    1    0    0    2    3    3  0.063  0.286  0.125  0.411  0.077  3.76    0.6  0.223  0.125
K Hill              9    1    1    0    0    0    0    1    0  0.111  0.200  0.111  0.311  0.111  3.83    0.2  0.089  0.000
Tracy              11    0    1    1    0    0    1    0    5  0.091  0.091  0.182  0.273  0.167  4.36    0.2  0.000  0.125

CUBS              366   54   96   21    0   11   53   49   87  0.262  0.354  0.410  0.764  0.317  4.04   53.1  0.091  0.195
overall          1126  155  306   56    6   38  152  119  223  0.272  0.343  0.433  0.777  0.310  3.85  167.5  0.072  0.184

[Wolfgangbucks]

I have a hunch Wells won't remain in the rotation much longer.

 

Yep dude sucks..................

I am a big fan of Wells and don't think he should be taken out. But I think this team is still looking to make changes to try and turn things around if they are going to mess with the rotation (which they shouldn't it's been the best/most consistent part of the team) Wells seems like the guy who is most replaceable based on salary, options, and performance so far this year (which hasn't been all that bad).

 

 

OK I'll buy that................ does Theriot get near any of the balls that Castro is making errors on?

[Cubswin11]

I have a hunch Wells won't remain in the rotation much longer.

 

Yep dude sucks..................

I am a big fan of Wells and don't think he should be taken out. But I think this team is still looking to make changes to try and turn things around if they are going to mess with the rotation (which they shouldn't it's been the best/most consistent part of the team) Wells seems like the guy who is most replaceable based on salary, options, and performance so far this year (which hasn't been all that bad).

 

 

OK I'll buy that................ does Theriot get near any of the balls that Castro is making errors on?

Gets to them? Maybe. Turn any of those balls into outs? No. So the baserunners would still be on base, just different scoring results potentially.