Bulls Offseason Thread

[Soul]

I'm saying if the coach doesn't matter, and all that matters is the skill of the players, then don't hate Vinny for the Bulls having [expletive] players

 

The coach matters a lot. The problem is that most of them are retreads and pretty interchangeable with the rest of the mediocre coaches in the league.

 

 

I absolutely agree with this. Comcast said Eric Musselman was one of the frontrunners for the job. I mean really??? Cheeks and Johnson were the only names mentioned that would interest me if I were a Bulls fan(and I may be overrating Cheeks because I was impressed with how cleaned up the Blazers' act.)

 

Actually, in my limited understanding I thought Vinny got better as time wore on.

 

But I don't understand why we needed to have a guy learn on the job with the players -- especially since we were a young, developing team. I'm not sure if it turned out all that much worse or not, but I stand by my objection to the Vinny hiring. At least get someone who has coached before. If not for the X's & O's, then for the experience dealing with NBA superstar egos and all that comes with it.

[Flames24Rulz]

No career assistants, please.

[nick23]

Cal's offensive sets make Doug Collins's "give the ball to Michael and get the [expletive] out of the way" look like the Princeton offense. He would not bring a title to Chicago, and after you piss of Lebron by firing him, then where are you?

This is actually pretty far from the truth. Cal runs a fairly complex dribble drive motion offense.

 

No, he's right. Calipari is pretty much a strategical nitwit.

 

Nick's not rational about Calipari.

I'm really not. I may be in love with that man.

[RynoRules]

I read Calipari's name as a candidate in today's Sun Times. if there is a God in Heaven that won't happen.

 

I just don't see a coach out there that I would be interested in, other than Phil of course, but that's not realistic, IMO. In fact, I can't recall a time where there was such a glaring lack of good, young coaches. I guess Brooks in OKC qualifies, but other than that I can't think of any who seem to really be on the ball. Seems like talent is more important than ever in the modern NBA.

[Guest]

I read Calipari's name as a candidate in today's Sun Times. if there is a God in Heaven that won't happen.

 

I just don't see a coach out there that I would be interested in, other than Phil of course, but that's not realistic, IMO. In fact, I can't recall a time where there was such a glaring lack of good, young coaches. I guess Brooks in OKC qualifies, but other than that I can't think of any who seem to really be on the ball. Seems like talent is more important than ever in the modern NBA.

When was the last time you can think of an NBA team that you'd say won the title because of coaching?

 

Even if you go back to the '80's, it was Boston and LA with a clear talent gap over the rest of the league winning the titles.

[SouthSideRyan]

I read Calipari's name as a candidate in today's Sun Times. if there is a God in Heaven that won't happen.

 

I just don't see a coach out there that I would be interested in, other than Phil of course, but that's not realistic, IMO. In fact, I can't recall a time where there was such a glaring lack of good, young coaches. I guess Brooks in OKC qualifies, but other than that I can't think of any who seem to really be on the ball. Seems like talent is more important than ever in the modern NBA.

When was the last time you can think of an NBA team that you'd say won the title because of coaching?

 

 

The Spurs? I wouldn't entirely discount an argument for the Celtics in '08. Pistons in '04 have a pretty nice case.

[Andy]

I read Calipari's name as a candidate in today's Sun Times. if there is a God in Heaven that won't happen.

 

I just don't see a coach out there that I would be interested in, other than Phil of course, but that's not realistic, IMO. In fact, I can't recall a time where there was such a glaring lack of good, young coaches. I guess Brooks in OKC qualifies, but other than that I can't think of any who seem to really be on the ball. Seems like talent is more important than ever in the modern NBA.

When was the last time you can think of an NBA team that you'd say won the title because of coaching?

 

 

The Spurs? I wouldn't entirely discount an argument for the Celtics in '08. Pistons in '04 have a pretty nice case.

Any Spurs title would be a good argument, and the Pistons wouldn't be bad either. The Celtics would not. They had the most talent, rather easily.

[SouthSideRyan]

Any Celtics argument would be based on a season-long coaching job, moreso than outfoxing the opposition in the finals. The defensive powerhouse that Thibodeau(and by extension Rivers) turned them into was pretty damn impressive.

[Guest]

I read Calipari's name as a candidate in today's Sun Times. if there is a God in Heaven that won't happen.

 

I just don't see a coach out there that I would be interested in, other than Phil of course, but that's not realistic, IMO. In fact, I can't recall a time where there was such a glaring lack of good, young coaches. I guess Brooks in OKC qualifies, but other than that I can't think of any who seem to really be on the ball. Seems like talent is more important than ever in the modern NBA.

When was the last time you can think of an NBA team that you'd say won the title because of coaching?

 

 

The Spurs? I wouldn't entirely discount an argument for the Celtics in '08. Pistons in '04 have a pretty nice case.

Duncan, Parker, Ginobili & crew was at the very least equal to the talent level in the league during those years.

[Andy]

Wojnarowski says that Calipari is interested in the Bulls' job.

[wolf stansson]

I've heard part of Miami's pitch to Wade is Riley returning to the bench. If that happens, I'd gladly take Spoelstra. We're definitely not hiring someone with no NBA head coaching experience and all the other candidates are stale. I think he's a good coach too.

[Old Style]

What about Byron Scott?

[Flames24Rulz]

Wojnarowski says that Calipari is interested in the Bulls' job.

 

Yeah, he's my first priority now.

[ConstableRabbit]

Cal negotiating a raise according to espn.

 

Could be a negotiating tactic on his part.

[Wilson A2000]

What about Byron Scott?

 

He is right near the top of my list. The problem people might have with him is that he is a my way or the highway kind of coach. Similar to Skiles. Preaches defense. He style of coaching can wear people down though.

[Wilson A2000]

I read Calipari's name as a candidate in today's Sun Times. if there is a God in Heaven that won't happen.

 

I just don't see a coach out there that I would be interested in, other than Phil of course, but that's not realistic, IMO. In fact, I can't recall a time where there was such a glaring lack of good, young coaches. I guess Brooks in OKC qualifies, but other than that I can't think of any who seem to really be on the ball. Seems like talent is more important than ever in the modern NBA.

When was the last time you can think of an NBA team that you'd say won the title because of coaching?

 

Even if you go back to the '80's, it was Boston and LA with a clear talent gap over the rest of the league winning the titles.

 

The Bulls never won a title until Phil got there. L.A. never won with Shaq and Kobe until Phil got there. Both of those teams would have probably won titles anyway, but Phil's blend of being a good X/Os guy (triangle offense) and balancing egos sure didn't hurt.

[Wilson A2000]

Cal's offensive sets make Doug Collins's "give the ball to Michael and get the [expletive] out of the way" look like the Princeton offense. He would not bring a title to Chicago, and after you piss of Lebron by firing him, then where are you?

This is actually pretty far from the truth. Cal runs a fairly complex dribble drive motion offense.

 

No, he's right. Calipari is pretty much a strategical nitwit.

 

Can he payoff LeBron under the table like he did with his college players? If so, bring him along.

 

Listening to the radio today GarPax got ridiculed because they didn't say for sure that the coaching search would be completed by July 1. But what if they hire a coach that Bosh or Wade doesn't like? What if all other factors between teams are equal and the coach is the deciding factor? I too would want to keep my options open, but you still have to be careful that your top prioritized coach isn't snatched up before you can get him.

[Guest]

Cal negotiating a raise according to espn.

 

Could be a negotiating tactic on his part.

 

It's that or preparing his out for when ish hits the fan at Kentucky.

[Cubswin11]

Cal negotiating a raise according to espn.

 

Could be a negotiating tactic on his part.

Smart move by him. He can either leave on his own terms now, or in a year or two when the NCAA violations/sanctions starting coming down and he is forced out.

[UMFan83]

What about Byron Scott?

 

He is right near the top of my list. The problem people might have with him is that he is a my way or the highway kind of coach. Similar to Skiles. Preaches defense. He style of coaching can wear people down though.

 

I was reading on RealGM that he apparently has a reputation of not being the hardest worker if that means anything.

[Sosa21MVP]

I'm not saying it would actually happen but what if Calipari went to the Bulls and helped them get Lebron? They are buddies after all. :wink:

[nick23]

Holy hell would I love to see Kentucky fans' reactions if Cal leaves.

[UMFan83]

Holy hell would I love to see Kentucky fans' reactions if Cal leaves.

 

It would certainly lock in his reputation as the Nick Saban of college basketball.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Cal has made it very clear that he has no interest in coaching more than 10 more years. He'll go where the money is.

[nick23]

And this new contract extension is strictly a PR move by Kentucky. There's nothing that will prevent him from taking another job.