04/08 Cubs (Wells) vs. Braves (Hanson) 6:10 CT MLBN/CSN

[gflore34]

OK, I said last night that I'd post the game thread this morning. Whatever.

 

Yours wasn't going to be as awesome as this one. Don't stand in the way of awesome.

 

I was hoping to improve on my overall 9-4 game thread record.

 

Vanilla Ice, if the Cubs lose today, it is 100% your fault.

 

if?

[Andy]

Someone called back to my 2007 gimmick in yesterday's thread, so I'm just going to bring it back in hopes of a turnaround:

 

How the hell are we only 2 games out of first?

[Old Style]

Win, you losers.

[Derwood]

i'd rather have a Ski anime thread than this garbage

[Hawk4Hall]

Go Cobs.

[erik316wttn]

A win tonight coupled by 2 of 3 against Dusty's Reds and we're ok heading home.

[gflore34]

A win tonight coupled by 2 of 3 against Dusty's Reds and we're ok heading home.

 

Given the discussions of probability, mean and regression to the mean in yesterday' Game Day thread, I'll propose a probability, p, for this event of .05

[erik316wttn]

A win tonight coupled by 2 of 3 against Dusty's Reds and we're ok heading home.

 

Given the discussions of probability, mean and regression to the mean in yesterday' Game Day thread, I'll propose a probability, p, for this event of .05

 

well, I'll stick by my "the law of averages is a bunch of crap" theory that truffle was so nice to archive for me, and say that the Cubs open at Wrigley at .500 or better.

 

Cubs win tonight 5-3. Wells goes 7, gives up 3, and Marmol gets his first save of the season.

[gflore34]

A win tonight coupled by 2 of 3 against Dusty's Reds and we're ok heading home.

 

Given the discussions of probability, mean and regression to the mean in yesterday' Game Day thread, I'll propose a probability, p, for this event of .05

 

well, I'll stick by my "the law of averages is a bunch of crap" theory that truffle was so nice to archive for me, and say that the Cubs open at Wrigley at .500 or better.

 

Cubs win tonight 5-3. Wells goes 7, gives up 3, and Marmol gets his first save of the season.

 

Reads good to me, let's hope it's a reality by 10CT or so.

[Sammy Sofa]

I really hope that Marshall will be the setup man in the bullpen sooner rather than later.

[haubrich91]

Well we didn't face Hanson last year, so going by previous Cub performances, he's going to kill us. That's not counting the fact that he's already a good pitcher.

 

At least we won't have the chance to make Tim Hudson look good and healthy this series...

[UMFan83]

Lets have another 6 page discussion about the law of averages and gambler's fallacy and all that junk tonight ok?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Lets have another 6 page discussion about the law of averages and gambler's fallacy and all that junk tonight ok?

 

Let's have more people complaining about the quality of posts without attempting to make some sort of interesting post, okay?

[erik316wttn]

I really hope that Marshall will be the setup man in the bullpen sooner rather than later.

 

I think he's fine being used how he is... a guy that can go more than one inning out of the pen to relieve the starter and get it to the setup guy and closer.

 

I don't think he'd be a failure in the setup role-- far from it. I just think that's not the optimal use of his talent.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The problem with Marshall pitching as the long-man is that he almost always will be pitching low-leverage innings. He's way too good for that in this bullpen.

[erik316wttn]

Lets have another 6 page discussion about the law of averages and gambler's fallacy and all that junk tonight ok?

 

Let's have more people complaining about the quality of posts without attempting to make some sort of interesting post, okay?

 

I personally thought it was quite the interesting discussion and far above the usual "boy, the Cubs look crappy tonight." "ZOMG GLAD I KNOW NOW SO I DONT WATCH EVER AGAIN" crap.

 

NSBB needs more discussion like that. I learned quite a bit and Kyle has become one of my favorite posters.

[Sammy Sofa]

The problem with Marshall pitching as the long-man is that he almost always will be pitching low-leverage innings. He's way too good for that in this bullpen.

 

Exactly. Leaving him as the long man is ultimately a waste of him over the course of the season if he can keep pitching anything like this. He'll face many more critical situations as the setup guy. The long man is usually being tossed out there because the starter got rocked. I'd rather have Marshall available when the game is much more winnable or they need to hold the lead.

[erik316wttn]

The problem with Marshall pitching as the long-man is that he almost always will be pitching low-leverage innings. He's way too good for that in this bullpen.

 

Exactly. Leaving him as the long man is ultimately a waste of him over the course of the season if he can keep pitching anything like this. He'll face many more critical situations as the setup guy. The long man is usually being tossed out there because the starter got rocked. I'd rather have Marshall available when the game is much more winnable or they need to hold the lead.

 

I'd agree just as long as he's not shoehorned into the "8th inning only" role. He can go more than 1 inning. If he's put in at the start of the 7th and pitches the 7th and 8th to get to Marmol then I'd be all for it.

 

Not that this would be an all the time thing, but just implemented when the situation dictates.

[TruffleShuffle]

braves 37, cubs -2

[Soul]

The problem with Marshall pitching as the long-man is that he almost always will be pitching low-leverage innings. He's way too good for that in this bullpen.

 

Exactly. Leaving him as the long man is ultimately a waste of him over the course of the season if he can keep pitching anything like this. He'll face many more critical situations as the setup guy. The long man is usually being tossed out there because the starter got rocked. I'd rather have Marshall available when the game is much more winnable or they need to hold the lead.

 

Maybe they are afraid of him being good in the setup role because it would make the decision tough if a starter falters.

[erik316wttn]

The problem with Marshall pitching as the long-man is that he almost always will be pitching low-leverage innings. He's way too good for that in this bullpen.

 

Exactly. Leaving him as the long man is ultimately a waste of him over the course of the season if he can keep pitching anything like this. He'll face many more critical situations as the setup guy. The long man is usually being tossed out there because the starter got rocked. I'd rather have Marshall available when the game is much more winnable or they need to hold the lead.

 

Maybe they are afraid of him being good in the setup role because it would make the decision tough if a starter falters.

 

I sure hope not. You shouldn't assemble your team to avoid tough decisions.

[Sammy Sofa]

The problem with Marshall pitching as the long-man is that he almost always will be pitching low-leverage innings. He's way too good for that in this bullpen.

 

Exactly. Leaving him as the long man is ultimately a waste of him over the course of the season if he can keep pitching anything like this. He'll face many more critical situations as the setup guy. The long man is usually being tossed out there because the starter got rocked. I'd rather have Marshall available when the game is much more winnable or they need to hold the lead.

 

I'd agree just as long as he's not shoehorned into the "8th inning only" role. He can go more than 1 inning. If he's put in at the start of the 7th and pitches the 7th and 8th to get to Marmol then I'd be all for it.

 

Not that this would be an all the time thing, but just implemented when the situation dictates.

 

Sure, but it's not something they need to bank on. Ideally you're counting on your starter to go 6 innings, or into the 6th. That really means only have to get 3-6 outs with the entire bullpen before getting to Marshall and Marmol if the game is close. I know some people are acting like the bullpen is this huge disaster, but it's not SO bad that they need to be constantly looking to Marshall to get more than 3 outs if he becomes the setup man. Remember, he's got to go the whole year, so it couldn't even be something that could always be done when the situation dictates.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I've always wanted to see the team keep a true mop-up guy around. Some league-minimum arm who has no future and can just soak up the abuse on his arm every time the game gets out of hand. I thought we were going to use Kevin Hart in that role, but he kept showing up in close games.

 

Samardzija would be a good choice this year?

[otis89]

braves 37, cubs -2

 

Soriano homers twice but runs around the bases backwards each time?

[Sammy Sofa]

I've always wanted to see the team keep a true mop-up guy around. Some league-minimum arm who has no future and can just soak up the abuse on his arm every time the game gets out of hand. I thought we were going to use Kevin Hart in that role, but he kept showing up in close games.

 

Samardzija would be a good choice this year?

 

Yeah, or Silva if he looks like his old craptacular self. The long man role is a dumping ground. Marshall is too valuable for that.