NCAA Conference Realignment

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They lost 20 scholarships per annum during the probation period. It will take at least 6 years for the program to be on a level playing field with the other big time programs. I dont think it will, but penalties as harsh as PSUs are very capable of destroying a program for good.

 

Within 1-2 years they will be selling kids on returning PSU to glory. They will struggle with depth over the next few years due to the scholarship crunch but they will still keep getting top tier talent. NFL scouts will still watch, they'll still be on national TV, and if the current coaching staff stays they have NFL guys to coach up the players.

 

Athletes from Texas, Florida, California and the delta born in 1997-2000 most likely wont have an appreciation for returning PSU to glory when O'Brien is working on his 2014-2016 hauls. Unless Obrien can work miracles Penn State is going to be pretty bad for the next 3 years.

 

Texas, Florida, California? Have you ever looked at a Penn State roster?

[Derwood]

They lost 20 scholarships per annum during the probation period. It will take at least 6 years for the program to be on a level playing field with the other big time programs. I dont think it will, but penalties as harsh as PSUs are very capable of destroying a program for good.

 

Within 1-2 years they will be selling kids on returning PSU to glory. They will struggle with depth over the next few years due to the scholarship crunch but they will still keep getting top tier talent. NFL scouts will still watch, they'll still be on national TV, and if the current coaching staff stays they have NFL guys to coach up the players.

 

Athletes from Texas, Florida, California and the delta born in 1997-2000 most likely wont have an appreciation for returning PSU to glory when O'Brien is working on his 2014-2016 hauls. Unless Obrien can work miracles Penn State is going to be pretty bad for the next 3 years.

 

Texas, Florida, California? Have you ever looked at a Penn State roster?

 

I count 3 players total from those states (2 from CA, 1 from TX)

 

95% of that roster is PA/NJ/MD/OH/MI

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Louisville to the ACC?

 

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http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8685541/acc-votes-add-louisville-cardinals-source-says

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Over Maryland?

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I'm being a smart ass but it's a good move for the acc. Maryland was not a significant loss and they added probably the best available candidate. The key to the acc, I suspect, is keeping fsu, Miami, and UNC and Duke. I won't worry much about the conf falling apart unless one of those schools bolts.

[Vanilla Ice]

I'm being a smart ass but it's a good move for the acc. Maryland was not a significant loss and they added probably the best available candidate. The key to the acc, I suspect, is keeping fsu, Miami, and UNC and Duke. I won't worry much about the conf falling apart unless one of those schools bolts.

Id worry more about UVA than Duke and/or Miami.

[CubInOK]

I'm being a smart ass but it's a good move for the acc. Maryland was not a significant loss and they added probably the best available candidate. The key to the acc, I suspect, is keeping fsu, Miami, and UNC and Duke. I won't worry much about the conf falling apart unless one of those schools bolts.

Id worry more about UVA than Duke and/or Miami.

I don't think the ACC is worried about Miami leaving at all.

[javy knows my name]

I don't like this at all. I stopped caring about college football a couple years ago, but now college football is hurting my enjoyment of college basketball. The Big East especially is in shambles, and CFB isn't really better off for it, either.

[Andy]

I don't like this at all. I stopped caring about college football a couple years ago, but now college football is hurting my enjoyment of college basketball. The Big East especially is in shambles, and CFB isn't really better off for it, either.

The hell of it is for the basketball-only Big East schools like Georgetown, Marquette, St. John's et al, there's nowhere else to go. They still get more TV money by riding it out with SMU, Houston, Tulane and East Carolina than they do splitting off and forming a basketball-only conference. It's a shame.

[Vanilla Ice]

I don't like this at all. I stopped caring about college football a couple years ago, but now college football is hurting my enjoyment of college basketball. The Big East especially is in shambles, and CFB isn't really better off for it, either.

The ACC has created one hell of a basketball conference now, though. Adding Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame, and Louisville, while only losing Maryland (arguably the worst basketball program of the bunch).

 

Duke, UNC, NC State, UVA, FSU + the new members will make for a great conference.

 

I suppose it does screw over schools like Georgetown and Marquette, though.

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I don't like this at all. I stopped caring about college football a couple years ago, but now college football is hurting my enjoyment of college basketball. The Big East especially is in shambles, and CFB isn't really better off for it, either.

 

I don't like it at all. The conferences are watered down and divided. I know y'all think I hate the big ten but I've been an Iowa fan forever and I hate what's happened to their schedule.

 

Now you'll have a 14 or 16 team conference where you play the same 6-7 teams every year but the rest of your conf mates you play 1-2 times a decade and then the two winners of those divisions play at the end of the year. How's that significantly different than having a 10-team conf with a 7-8 game schedule, playing 4 OOC teams and ending the year playing a team at about your level from another conf in a bowl? But instead of playing OSU and Wisconsin we have to play Nebraska and Maryland or Rutgers? What the [expletive]?

[Exile on Waveland]

But instead of playing OSU and Wisconsin we have to play Nebraska and Maryland or Rutgers? What the [expletive]?

 

While I agree with your overall point, that seems a rather natural match-up.

[SouthSideRyan]

I don't like it at all. The conferences are watered down and divided. I know y'all think I hate the big ten but I've been an Iowa fan forever

 

This doesn't help your case like you think it does.

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But instead of playing OSU and Wisconsin we have to play Nebraska and Maryland or Rutgers? What the [expletive]?

 

While I agree with your overall point, that seems a rather natural match-up.

 

The Iowa grad I work with is really happy that they get to play Nebraska. When I was tailgaiting in Iowa City earlier this month the fans were talking about the Nebraska game like it was a big game even though they were really down on the Iowa team.

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But instead of playing OSU and Wisconsin we have to play Nebraska and Maryland or Rutgers? What the [expletive]?

 

While I agree with your overall point, that seems a rather natural match-up.

 

We (every Iowa fan i knew as a kid) all hated Nebraska. That was the first cfb team I ever truly hated. I don't even know why.

 

I get the geographic proximity but it was a team we hadn't played regularly in like forever. There are a number of Midwest teams that haven't been regulars on Iowa's schedule. Nebraska just isn't a fit for the big ten, outside of football.

[Guest]

But instead of playing OSU and Wisconsin we have to play Nebraska and Maryland or Rutgers? What the [expletive]?

 

While I agree with your overall point, that seems a rather natural match-up.

 

We (every Iowa fan i knew as a kid) all hated Nebraska. That was the first cfb team I ever truly hated. I don't even know why.

 

I get the geographic proximity but it was a team we hadn't played regularly in like forever. There are a number of Midwest teams that haven't been regulars on Iowa's schedule. Nebraska just isn't a fit for the big ten, outside of football.

Just curious, how are they are worse fit for the big 10 than, say, Iowa?

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But instead of playing OSU and Wisconsin we have to play Nebraska and Maryland or Rutgers? What the [expletive]?

 

While I agree with your overall point, that seems a rather natural match-up.

 

We (every Iowa fan i knew as a kid) all hated Nebraska. That was the first cfb team I ever truly hated. I don't even know why.

 

I get the geographic proximity but it was a team we hadn't played regularly in like forever. There are a number of Midwest teams that haven't been regulars on Iowa's schedule. Nebraska just isn't a fit for the big ten, outside of football.

Just curious, how are they are worse fit for the big 10 than, say, Iowa?

 

Seriously? You mean Iowa, the school with a top 30 law program and top 30 medical school? Located in a great college town?

 

I think Nebraska is the only big ten school not in the AAU, right?

[Guest]

But instead of playing OSU and Wisconsin we have to play Nebraska and Maryland or Rutgers? What the [expletive]?

 

While I agree with your overall point, that seems a rather natural match-up.

 

We (every Iowa fan i knew as a kid) all hated Nebraska. That was the first cfb team I ever truly hated. I don't even know why.

 

I get the geographic proximity but it was a team we hadn't played regularly in like forever. There are a number of Midwest teams that haven't been regulars on Iowa's schedule. Nebraska just isn't a fit for the big ten, outside of football.

Just curious, how are they are worse fit for the big 10 than, say, Iowa?

 

Seriously? You mean Iowa, the school with a top 30 law program and top 30 medical school? Located in a great college town?

 

I think Nebraska is the only big ten school not in the AAU, right?

Yes, I mean Iowa, the only school I'm aware of in the big 10 that grants instant admittance to out of state students because they are so desperate for qualified applicants. btw - I say this as someone with a HS senior applying for colleges right now. The HS counselor suggested applying to Iowa as a backup because, "they'll take just about anyone right now."

[UMFan83]

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Louisville: 48th biggest TV market

 

Washington DC: 8th biggest TV market

Baltimore: 24th biggest TV market

 

/Jim Delaney

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Yes, I mean Iowa, the only school I'm aware of in the big 10 that grants instant admittance to out of state students because they are so desperate for qualified applicants. btw - I say this as someone with a HS senior applying for colleges right now. The HS counselor suggested applying to Iowa as a backup because, "they'll take just about anyone right now."

 

Nevertheless, Iowa is in the AAU and Nebraska is not (though they were when the Big Ten took them). I see your point, but the AAU is something.

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But instead of playing OSU and Wisconsin we have to play Nebraska and Maryland or Rutgers? What the [expletive]?

 

While I agree with your overall point, that seems a rather natural match-up.

 

We (every Iowa fan i knew as a kid) all hated Nebraska. That was the first cfb team I ever truly hated. I don't even know why.

 

I get the geographic proximity but it was a team we hadn't played regularly in like forever. There are a number of Midwest teams that haven't been regulars on Iowa's schedule. Nebraska just isn't a fit for the big ten, outside of football.

Just curious, how are they are worse fit for the big 10 than, say, Iowa?

 

Seriously? You mean Iowa, the school with a top 30 law program and top 30 medical school? Located in a great college town?

 

I think Nebraska is the only big ten school not in the AAU, right?

Yes, I mean Iowa, the only school I'm aware of in the big 10 that grants instant admittance to out of state students because they are so desperate for qualified applicants. btw - I say this as someone with a HS senior applying for colleges right now. The HS counselor suggested applying to Iowa as a backup because, "they'll take just about anyone right now."

 

That's a good point. Iowa is the only school in the big ten, no, the country, that accepts almost any qualified applicant. Those other big ten schools are far more selective.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yes, I mean Iowa, the only school I'm aware of in the big 10 that grants instant admittance to out of state students because they are so desperate for qualified applicants. btw - I say this as someone with a HS senior applying for colleges right now. The HS counselor suggested applying to Iowa as a backup because, "they'll take just about anyone right now."

 

There's like one big ten school that's hard to get admission to.

[Guest]

Yes, I mean Iowa, the only school I'm aware of in the big 10 that grants instant admittance to out of state students because they are so desperate for qualified applicants. btw - I say this as someone with a HS senior applying for colleges right now. The HS counselor suggested applying to Iowa as a backup because, "they'll take just about anyone right now."

 

There's like one big ten school that's hard to get admission to.

And yet Iowa is the one that literally responded in two days and has counselors suggesting it as a backup plan to other big 10 schools.

[Guest]

Yes, I mean Iowa, the only school I'm aware of in the big 10 that grants instant admittance to out of state students because they are so desperate for qualified applicants. btw - I say this as someone with a HS senior applying for colleges right now. The HS counselor suggested applying to Iowa as a backup because, "they'll take just about anyone right now."

 

There's like one big ten school that's hard to get admission to.

depends on what college you're applying to within those schools.