NCAA Conference Realignment

[UMFan83]

Jim Delany's desperate quest to destroy the ACC continues.

 

Yes, that's what's driving this. A UNC alum wanting to destroy the ACC

I fail to understand any other motivation for adding mediocre (in football) filler, small-TV-market programs like UNC and Virginia.

 

UVA, I am not sure about. It's a very good academic school though IIRC, and I'm sure they have alum all over VA, including Richmond to Norfolk to the suburbs of DC. Sportswise, UVA is certainly better than Rutgers and I think they have a loyal following, but overall meh.

 

UNC is also an excellent academic school I believe. They are located in that Greensboro/Raleigh/Durham area which is quite populated, but obviously not really a major market (Raleigh-Durham is 47th largest metro). But again its a state school and I'm sure has pull across NC, including Charlotte. Sportswise, UNC basketball would be a huge get, and UNC football can be good.

 

I wonder if having members in VA and NC would do anything to help recruiting in the SE for the rest of the conference.

[bukie]

The other hot rumor is Georgia Tech for the Atlanta market.

[Tracer Bullet]

Going to 20 schools or backing out on the Maryland and Rutgers deals?

[CubInOK]

Maybe the Big 12 can get Miami after the ACC dissolves.

[SouthSideRyan]

We should pick off Syracuse before they even start just to troll.

[CubInOK]

We should pick off Syracuse before they even start just to troll.

Getting Pitt would be such a B1G move.

[Andy]

I wonder if having members in VA and NC would do anything to help recruiting in the SE for the rest of the conference.

There's going to be a good deal of the league that won't be playing UVA or UNC basically ever (if this goes through), so I don't know how much of an effect it would have.

[OleMissCub]

Is Mizzou wanting to stay in the SEC for good or is this a temporary thing?

[Tracer Bullet]

When do UVA and UNC join the big ten again?

[SouthSideRyan]

When do UVA and UNC join the big ten again?

 

Nothing happens with the ACC until the Maryland suit is settled.

 

Plus I heard they're worried about the grad rates.

[Andy]

Is Mizzou wanting to stay in the SEC for good or is this a temporary thing?

The SEC rakes in as much or more money as any conference. I don't see why they'd leave.

[Thed Hoyerstein]

Official now: Xavier, Butler, and Creighton accept invites to the new Big East with play beginning next year.

 

Catholic 7 + 3 will retain Big East name and conference tournament at MSG. Deal with Fox for 12 years @ $600m.

[SouthSideRyan]

Is Mizzou wanting to stay in the SEC for good or is this a temporary thing?

The SEC rakes in as much or more money as any conference. I don't see why they'd leave.

 

Shame?

[WrigleyField 22]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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[apete6]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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They might have to wait longer than that. 10 teams is ideal for basketball (18 games, true home and home with everyone).

[Andy]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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They might have to wait longer than that. 10 teams is ideal for basketball (18 games, true home and home with everyone).

Yeah, I hope the new Big East sticks with 10. They won't, of course. SLU and Dayton are probably going to the Big East in '14-'15.

[apete6]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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They might have to wait longer than that. 10 teams is ideal for basketball (18 games, true home and home with everyone).

Yeah, I hope the new Big East sticks with 10. They won't, of course. SLU and Dayton are probably going to the Big East in '14-'15.

 

Agreed. I think they actually have to go to 12 to get the full $600 million. I think it was $500 million if they remain at 10 teams.

[SouthSideRyan]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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They might have to wait longer than that. 10 teams is ideal for basketball (18 games, true home and home with everyone).

Yeah, I hope the new Big East sticks with 10. They won't, of course. SLU and Dayton are probably going to the Big East in '14-'15.

 

Agreed. I think they actually have to go to 12 to get the full $600 million. I think it was $500 million if they remain at 10 teams.

 

So they literally gain no money by going to 12.

[bukie]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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They might have to wait longer than that. 10 teams is ideal for basketball (18 games, true home and home with everyone).

Yeah, I hope the new Big East sticks with 10. They won't, of course. SLU and Dayton are probably going to the Big East in '14-'15.

 

Agreed. I think they actually have to go to 12 to get the full $600 million. I think it was $500 million if they remain at 10 teams.

 

So they literally gain no money by going to 12.

I'm sure each school isn't getting $50 million, so I'm sure conference officials will gain money at some extent.

[Guest]

Official now: Xavier, Butler, and Creighton accept invites to the new Big East with play beginning next year.

 

Catholic 7 + 3 will retain Big East name and conference tournament at MSG. Deal with Fox for 12 years @ $600m.

 

NIIIIIIIIICE.

[Illini Iceman]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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They might have to wait longer than that. 10 teams is ideal for basketball (18 games, true home and home with everyone).

Yeah, I hope the new Big East sticks with 10. They won't, of course. SLU and Dayton are probably going to the Big East in '14-'15.

 

I wonder why they preferred Creighton over SLU for the 10 team league.

[WrigleyField 22]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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They might have to wait longer than that. 10 teams is ideal for basketball (18 games, true home and home with everyone).

Yea, but everything out there has basically said that's what they are headed towards.

 

 

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[SouthSideRyan]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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They might have to wait longer than that. 10 teams is ideal for basketball (18 games, true home and home with everyone).

Yeah, I hope the new Big East sticks with 10. They won't, of course. SLU and Dayton are probably going to the Big East in '14-'15.

 

I wonder why they preferred Creighton over SLU for the 10 team league.

 

Creighton's been much better over the past forever and is the best program in their state compared to SLU

[WrigleyField 22]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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They might have to wait longer than that. 10 teams is ideal for basketball (18 games, true home and home with everyone).

Yeah, I hope the new Big East sticks with 10. They won't, of course. SLU and Dayton are probably going to the Big East in '14-'15.

 

I wonder why they preferred Creighton over SLU for the 10 team league.

 

Creighton's been much better over the past forever and is the best program in their state compared to SLU

FWIW, I've read fans from a SLU forum say the President of Creighton is on the board at Marquette and Marquette pushed for Creighton. (Not sure how true that is).

 

But obviously Creighton does have a better resume even if it was in the MVC and even if they've mostly just made the tournament and not won much recently.

 

SLU was also a much better fit from a media standpoint, so its hard to totally understand the decision even when you look at history of success. No arguing SLUs recent history is pretty awful though.

 

 

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[Thed Hoyerstein]

Booo for SLU having to wait two years for expansion to 12 teams.

 

 

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They might have to wait longer than that. 10 teams is ideal for basketball (18 games, true home and home with everyone).

Yeah, I hope the new Big East sticks with 10. They won't, of course. SLU and Dayton are probably going to the Big East in '14-'15.

 

I wonder why they preferred Creighton over SLU for the 10 team league.

 

Creighton's been much better over the past forever and is the best program in their state compared to SLU

FWIW, I've read fans from a SLU forum say the President of Creighton is on the board at Marquette and Marquette pushed for Creighton. (Not sure how true that is).

 

But obviously Creighton does have a better resume even if it was in the MVC and even if they've mostly just made the tournament and not won much recently.

 

SLU was also a much better fit from a media standpoint, so its hard to totally understand the decision even when you look at history of success. No arguing SLUs recent history is pretty awful though.

 

 

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Creighton's president is the ex-president of St. Joe's in Philly so he has east coast connections and had a desire for the university to have a bigger presence eastward. Also, Creighton was apparently instrumental (not sure how or why) in getting Marquette into the Big East and so Marquette was pushing hard for Creighton as a gesture of brotherly love.

 

I think something else that really played into Creighton's favor is that they had no exit fee from the Valley, whereas Butler and Xavier likely had some nominal fee which probably applied to SLU as well. And then the decision is SLU or Creighton, and given their respective track record's, Creighton was the better choice for now.

 

I hope SLU will eventually join the conference in the interest of rivalry and distance.