NCAA Conference Realignment

[tadowdaddy]

This whole thing freaked me out at first thinking that KSU would end up getting shafted if the Big 12 falls by the wayside, however, the Kansas Board of Regents made a statement last week saying that KSU and KU will not be split up. Makes me feel better because I know KU would never end up in a non BCS conference.

[snoodmonger]

This whole thing freaked me out at first thinking that KSU would end up getting shafted if the Big 12 falls by the wayside, however, the Kansas Board of Regents made a statement last week saying that KSU and KU will not be split up. Makes me feel better because I know KU would never end up in a non BCS conference.

 

I dunno. I'm worried about where we'll end up. Not a lot of people clamoring for the Kansas market.

[bukie]

This whole thing freaked me out at first thinking that KSU would end up getting shafted if the Big 12 falls by the wayside, however, the Kansas Board of Regents made a statement last week saying that KSU and KU will not be split up. Makes me feel better because I know KU would never end up in a non BCS conference.

 

I dunno. I'm worried about where we'll end up. Not a lot of people clamoring for the Kansas market.

I'm sure they'll slide into a reformed Mountain West conference nicely.

[SouthSideRyan]

This whole thing freaked me out at first thinking that KSU would end up getting shafted if the Big 12 falls by the wayside, however, the Kansas Board of Regents made a statement last week saying that KSU and KU will not be split up. Makes me feel better because I know KU would never end up in a non BCS conference.

 

I dunno. I'm worried about where we'll end up. Not a lot of people clamoring for the Kansas market.

 

Kansas seems like it would draw a bigger market for the Big Ten than Mizzou would. Missouri brings you St. Louis and KC, and Illinois already brings in the St. Louis Market. Kansas brings you Kansas City, and better national exposure in basketball.

[MSG T]

This whole thing freaked me out at first thinking that KSU would end up getting shafted if the Big 12 falls by the wayside, however, the Kansas Board of Regents made a statement last week saying that KSU and KU will not be split up. Makes me feel better because I know KU would never end up in a non BCS conference.

 

I dunno. I'm worried about where we'll end up. Not a lot of people clamoring for the Kansas market.

I'm sure they'll slide into a reformed Mountain West conference nicely.

 

They're going to join Iowa State?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

back to the Big 8

[MSG T]

This whole thing freaked me out at first thinking that KSU would end up getting shafted if the Big 12 falls by the wayside, however, the Kansas Board of Regents made a statement last week saying that KSU and KU will not be split up. Makes me feel better because I know KU would never end up in a non BCS conference.

 

I dunno. I'm worried about where we'll end up. Not a lot of people clamoring for the Kansas market.

 

Kansas seems like it would draw a bigger market for the Big Ten than Mizzou would. Missouri brings you St. Louis and KC, and Illinois already brings in the St. Louis Market. Kansas brings you Kansas City, and better national exposure in basketball.

 

 

I can see where you're coming from, but if the Kansas Board of Regents won't let the 2 schools split, that puts Kansas in a hole. KSU is not a member of the AAU, and I don't know if they meet any requirements for joining. Kansas is a member (as is Mizzou and Nebby) which gives them a bonus when talking about joining the B10, but AAU membership (or ability to become a member) will be a big step in joining the B10, which possibly screws KState, and therefore Kansas.

[SouthSideRyan]

Oh yeah, there's not a chance in hell the Big Ten would take KSU

[shnsajax]

Everything I've heard suggests the SEC would be low on Texas's list. I haven't heard why, just that it would be behind the Pac-10 and Big 10.

 

Academics.

 

Exactly what I have heard. SEC doesn't want to have to increase academic standards.

[Guest]

This whole thing freaked me out at first thinking that KSU would end up getting shafted if the Big 12 falls by the wayside, however, the Kansas Board of Regents made a statement last week saying that KSU and KU will not be split up. Makes me feel better because I know KU would never end up in a non BCS conference.

 

I dunno. I'm worried about where we'll end up. Not a lot of people clamoring for the Kansas market.

 

Kansas seems like it would draw a bigger market for the Big Ten than Mizzou would. Missouri brings you St. Louis and KC, and Illinois already brings in the St. Louis Market. Kansas brings you Kansas City, and better national exposure in basketball.

 

What do you mean by bringing the market? Obviously there's coverage of the Big 10 in St. Louis with Illinois in proximity, but in terms of what is televised, the Big 12 gets all the regional coverage.

[SouthSideRyan]

This whole thing freaked me out at first thinking that KSU would end up getting shafted if the Big 12 falls by the wayside, however, the Kansas Board of Regents made a statement last week saying that KSU and KU will not be split up. Makes me feel better because I know KU would never end up in a non BCS conference.

 

I dunno. I'm worried about where we'll end up. Not a lot of people clamoring for the Kansas market.

 

Kansas seems like it would draw a bigger market for the Big Ten than Mizzou would. Missouri brings you St. Louis and KC, and Illinois already brings in the St. Louis Market. Kansas brings you Kansas City, and better national exposure in basketball.

 

What do you mean by bringing the market? Obviously there's coverage of the Big 10 in St. Louis with Illinois in proximity, but in terms of what is televised, the Big 12 gets all the regional coverage.

 

I'm thinking BTN wise

[snoodmonger]

This whole thing freaked me out at first thinking that KSU would end up getting shafted if the Big 12 falls by the wayside, however, the Kansas Board of Regents made a statement last week saying that KSU and KU will not be split up. Makes me feel better because I know KU would never end up in a non BCS conference.

 

I dunno. I'm worried about where we'll end up. Not a lot of people clamoring for the Kansas market.

 

Kansas seems like it would draw a bigger market for the Big Ten than Mizzou would. Missouri brings you St. Louis and KC, and Illinois already brings in the St. Louis Market. Kansas brings you Kansas City, and better national exposure in basketball.

 

 

I can see where you're coming from, but if the Kansas Board of Regents won't let the 2 schools split, that puts Kansas in a hole. KSU is not a member of the AAU, and I don't know if they meet any requirements for joining. Kansas is a member (as is Mizzou and Nebby) which gives them a bonus when talking about joining the B10, but AAU membership (or ability to become a member) will be a big step in joining the B10, which possibly screws KState, and therefore Kansas.

 

Yeah. Being tied down to little brother could end up really screwing KU. KU has something to offer big conferences, but not enough to offset adding another school that adds nothing additional to the conference.

 

KSU doesn't bring any tv sets that KU doesn't. It's AD doesn't make nearly as much money as KU's. And while the two football programs are about equal in prestige (which is to say, "none," unless KSU has a little left over equity from its run in the 90s), KU's basketball brand is a big ticket item. KSU, while improving, isn't.

 

Bukie, I'm going to need you to sell me on being in the Mountain West conference. As far as I'm concerned, that is oblivion, or the next step to it. Unless you were being sarcastic. Then disregard.

[Guest]

This whole thing freaked me out at first thinking that KSU would end up getting shafted if the Big 12 falls by the wayside, however, the Kansas Board of Regents made a statement last week saying that KSU and KU will not be split up. Makes me feel better because I know KU would never end up in a non BCS conference.

 

I dunno. I'm worried about where we'll end up. Not a lot of people clamoring for the Kansas market.

 

Kansas seems like it would draw a bigger market for the Big Ten than Mizzou would. Missouri brings you St. Louis and KC, and Illinois already brings in the St. Louis Market. Kansas brings you Kansas City, and better national exposure in basketball.

 

What do you mean by bringing the market? Obviously there's coverage of the Big 10 in St. Louis with Illinois in proximity, but in terms of what is televised, the Big 12 gets all the regional coverage.

 

I'm thinking BTN wise

 

Okay. I'm not sure how those things are measured, but I have BTN in Topeka/greater KC now, and it looks like Cable offers it in KC too.

[Guest]

Bukie, I'm going to need you to sell me on being in the Mountain West conference. As far as I'm concerned, that is oblivion, or the next step to it. Unless you were being sarcastic. Then disregard.

 

Well, melding the remains of the B12 with the best of the MWC would make a pretty decent conference.

 

KU

KSU

OU

OSU

ISU

Baylor

Tech

BYU

Utah

TCU

New Mexico

UNLV

[snoodmonger]

Bukie, I'm going to need you to sell me on being in the Mountain West conference. As far as I'm concerned, that is oblivion, or the next step to it. Unless you were being sarcastic. Then disregard.

 

Well, melding the remains of the B12 with the best of the MWC would make a pretty decent conference.

 

KU

KSU

OU

OSU

ISU

Baylor

Tech

BYU

Utah

TCU

New Mexico

UNLV

 

That conference sucks. Where is Texas in this scenario?

[Guest]

Bukie, I'm going to need you to sell me on being in the Mountain West conference. As far as I'm concerned, that is oblivion, or the next step to it. Unless you were being sarcastic. Then disregard.

 

Well, melding the remains of the B12 with the best of the MWC would make a pretty decent conference.

 

KU

KSU

OU

OSU

ISU

Baylor

Tech

BYU

Utah

TCU

New Mexico

UNLV

 

That conference sucks. Where is Texas in this scenario?

 

They went to the Pac-10 with aTm, Colorado, and maybe Colorado St. I dunno, I just threw it together. I think that's a stronger conference than you're giving it credit for, especially if it got a BCS auto-bid. Right now it'd be absolutely insane in basketball too.

[SouthSideRyan]

Bukie, I'm going to need you to sell me on being in the Mountain West conference. As far as I'm concerned, that is oblivion, or the next step to it. Unless you were being sarcastic. Then disregard.

 

Well, melding the remains of the B12 with the best of the MWC would make a pretty decent conference.

 

KU

KSU

OU

OSU

ISU

Baylor

Tech

BYU

Utah

TCU

New Mexico

UNLV

 

That conference sucks. Where is Texas in this scenario?

 

The Big 10 with A&M and ND.

 

Missouri defected to the MAC.

[Exile on Waveland]

If the Big Ten expands, setting off a chain reaction that lands Texas in the Pac 10, then the Big Ten will have blundered immensely.

[OleMissCub]

Seems to me like Texas has no incentive to leave the Big 12. I imagine the Big 12 will just add TCU, Utah, or maybe even Boise St.

[shnsajax]

Seems to me like Texas has no incentive to leave the Big 12. I imagine the Big 12 will just add TCU, Utah, or maybe even Boise St.

 

Not much of one. I think the Big 10 is ideal if they are looking, but there are a lot of cons in doing so. Maybe more of a contengency plan should the #$@* hit the fan.

[hawkeyecub]

If the Big Ten adding teams is going to cause a radical realignment of BCS conferences I don't know if I like it as much as I thought.

 

Same here. I hate change anyways but I don't see the idea of these 16 team super-conferences being good in any way other than money for those few leagues.

[SouthSideRyan]

Seems to me like Texas has no incentive to leave the Big 12. I imagine the Big 12 will just add TCU, Utah, or maybe even Boise St.

 

I don't really see Texas's incentive to stay.

[OleMissCub]

Seems to me like Texas has no incentive to leave the Big 12. I imagine the Big 12 will just add TCU, Utah, or maybe even Boise St.

 

I don't really see Texas's incentive to stay.

 

because they can beat just about everyone in the conference with comparative ease. I don't know how often they'd be a BCS team if they played in a tougher conference top to bottom.

[SouthSideRyan]

Seems to me like Texas has no incentive to leave the Big 12. I imagine the Big 12 will just add TCU, Utah, or maybe even Boise St.

 

I don't really see Texas's incentive to stay.

 

because they can beat just about everyone in the conference with comparative ease. I don't know how often they'd be a BCS team if they played in a tougher conference top to bottom.

 

I'm relatively sure Texas would've been in a BCS game just as often over the past 5 years. The Big Ten sends 2 teams to the BCS virtually every season. And as far as getting the BCS payout, whether Texas makes it or not is irrelevant because the Big Ten splits their revenue.

Edited May 6, 2010 by SouthSideRyan

[Derwood]

Seems to me like Texas has no incentive to leave the Big 12. I imagine the Big 12 will just add TCU, Utah, or maybe even Boise St.

 

I don't really see Texas's incentive to stay.

 

because they can beat just about everyone in the conference with comparative ease. I don't know how often they'd be a BCS team if they played in a tougher conference top to bottom.

 

but you can beat fewer people and make more money doing it in the Big 10