Milton Bradley Traded To Mariners For Carlos Silva

[Sever82]

Yea wonderful. Hendry saved 6 million dollars so now he can go sign Scott [expletive] Podsednik to a 3 yr 18mil deal instead of a 2yr 12 million deal. Seriously, this trade is [expletive] indefensible but Im sure there are plenty of stupid [expletive] Cubs fans that are ecstatic about Bradley being gone. Idiots

 

The trade isn't that bad once you hear how much money the cubs saved. Though i still would've preferred Castillo from the Mets in some kind of deal. It makes you wonder that maybe the Rays weren't willing to take anything of miltons salary. It also depends on what hendry does with that money.

 

They really didn't save much, and they downgraded talent. One team came out of this deal with a useful asset, and it wasn't the Cubs.

 

True but because of Hendry's dumb mistakes, they had no choice but to trade him. I would have preferred they kept him but Hendry ruined that relationship with the suspension and the open negotiations. Saving 6 million over two years is better than nothing.

[sneakypower]

btbs:

 

I'm going to skip the charade of whipping out the TVC and giving you a nice introduction about Milton Bradley, Carlos Silva, and how Seattle GM Jack Zduriencik has turned around the situation with the Mariners. Instead, I'll say this.

This is a straight-up robbery. There's no reason for such a tragedy to happen. Silva was the largest remaining noose on the Seattle Mariners' collective necks, the sole remaining byproduct from the Dark Ages of Bill Bavasi. Bradley was a positive offensive player (.345 wOBA) in the corners last year. He was a 1 WAR player last year in one of his worst offensive seasons in recent times. Silva struck out 10 batters and walked 11 in 30 innings last season (he also hit three batters). Before that, he was average at best (4.64 FIP for Seattle in 2008, though coupled with a poor defense, it turned into a 6.46 ERA), and horrendous at worst (5.76 FIP in 2006 for Minnesota, when he allowed almost two HR/9).

Silva hasn't pitched well since arriving in Seattle, one of the better pitcher's parks in baseball. He's now moving to Chicago, a hitter's haven in comparison. Bradley is now moving to Seattle, to a fanbase that actually respects his offensive skillset. There is no rumored additional parts to this trade. It's a simple one-for-one, and I think it made everyone outside Seattle cringe a little. I know I did.

Edited December 18, 2009 by sneakypower

[Butterscup1679666578]

yeah there's no way we netted 9 mil.

[Elrhino]

Yea wonderful. Hendry saved 6 million dollars so now he can go sign Scott [expletive] Podsednik to a 3 yr 18mil deal instead of a 2yr 12 million deal. Seriously, this trade is [expletive] indefensible but Im sure there are plenty of stupid [expletive] Cubs fans that are ecstatic about Bradley being gone. Idiots

 

The trade isn't that bad once you hear how much money the cubs saved. Though i still would've preferred Castillo from the Mets in some kind of deal. It makes you wonder that maybe the Rays weren't willing to take anything of miltons salary. It also depends on what hendry does with that money.

 

They really didn't save much, and they downgraded talent. One team came out of this deal with a useful asset, and it wasn't the Cubs.

Saving 6 million over two years is better than nothing.

 

 

Having Carlos Silva in your rotation is worse than nothing.

 

And the $6 million is only as useful as what you spend it on.

[Sever82]

Yea wonderful. Hendry saved 6 million dollars so now he can go sign Scott [expletive] Podsednik to a 3 yr 18mil deal instead of a 2yr 12 million deal. Seriously, this trade is [expletive] indefensible but Im sure there are plenty of stupid [expletive] Cubs fans that are ecstatic about Bradley being gone. Idiots

 

The trade isn't that bad once you hear how much money the cubs saved. Though i still would've preferred Castillo from the Mets in some kind of deal. It makes you wonder that maybe the Rays weren't willing to take anything of miltons salary. It also depends on what hendry does with that money.

 

They really didn't save much, and they downgraded talent. One team came out of this deal with a useful asset, and it wasn't the Cubs.

Saving 6 million over two years is better than nothing.

 

 

Having Carlos Silva in your rotation is worse than nothing.

 

And the $6 million is only as useful as what you spend it on.

 

Who says Silva is in the rotation though, I doubt Piniella keeps in the rotation unless he beats out everyone else. Though you're right on who they spend it on.

[Lefty]

I'm actually embarrassed to be a Cubs fan right now.

 

What took you so long? I went to my first Cub game in 1971 and I haven't had any Cub paraphanalia for 30 years.

 

How long does Hendry have left on his contract?

[Irrelevant Dude]

One step forward, two steps back. Hey wait, isn't that backwards?

 

If the Cubs release Silva, do they have to pay his entire remaining salary up front, or does it still get spread out over 2 years?

[inari]

Who says Silva is in the rotation though, I doubt Piniella keeps in the rotation unless he beats out everyone else. Though you're right on who they spend it on.

 

Common sense says Silva is in the rotation.

[dew1679666265]

Bruce Miles:

 

The deal is done. The Cubs have traded right fielder Milton Bradley to the Seattle Mariners for right-handed pitcher Carlos Silva. The Cubs also will net $9 million out of the deal. We'll hear from Jim Hendry this afternoon.

 

Silva's numbers are on today's earlier blog.

 

More to come.

 

 

Miles is saying the Cubs NET $9M? Aren't they technically grossing $9M and then netting the difference after the salaries are offset?

 

 

In other words... he makes it sound like we're saving $9M... that's not right, is it?

 

They probably gave us $9 million in addition to Silva's contract. So we save $9 million off his contract, not Bradley's is my guess.

[RynoRules]

Where did we find this trade, the "toilet store"?

 

This is a terminable offense in my estimation.

[davell]

Netting 9 mill out of this deal is only better than DFA'ing Bradley if we truly make Silva compete and earn a spot on this team. If he's given the 5th spot, like I'd almost assume he will be, this is worlds worse than if we just let Bradley go......

[Old Style]

Who says Silva is in the rotation though, I doubt Piniella keeps in the rotation unless he beats out everyone else. Though you're right on who they spend it on.

 

Common sense says Silva is in the rotation.

Especially with Lilly's status up in the air.

[inari]

Yea wonderful. Hendry saved 6 million dollars so now he can go sign Scott [expletive] Podsednik to a 3 yr 18mil deal instead of a 2yr 12 million deal. Seriously, this trade is [expletive] indefensible but Im sure there are plenty of stupid [expletive] Cubs fans that are ecstatic about Bradley being gone. Idiots

 

The trade isn't that bad once you hear how much money the cubs saved. Though i still would've preferred Castillo from the Mets in some kind of deal. It makes you wonder that maybe the Rays weren't willing to take anything of miltons salary. It also depends on what hendry does with that money.

 

They really didn't save much, and they downgraded talent. One team came out of this deal with a useful asset, and it wasn't the Cubs.

 

True but because of Hendry's dumb mistakes, they had no choice but to trade him. I would have preferred they kept him but Hendry ruined that relationship with the suspension and the open negotiations. Saving 6 million over two years is better than nothing.

 

The idea that we had no choice but to trade him is patently stupid.

[Sever82]

Who says Silva is in the rotation though, I doubt Piniella keeps in the rotation unless he beats out everyone else. Though you're right on who they spend it on.

 

Common sense says Silva is in the rotation.

 

How do you figure? Common sense says anybody with Silva's stats doesn't immediately get a spot in the rotation. No way Piniella is that dumb to give him a spot without battling for one.

[jersey cubs fan]

True but because of Hendry's dumb mistakes, they had no choice but to trade him. I would have preferred they kept him but Hendry ruined that relationship with the suspension and the open negotiations. Saving 6 million over two years is better than nothing.

 

There was never a point in time when they had no choice but to trade him.

 

And it doesn't matter if Silva gets a rotation spot or they hide him in the bullpen, they had an asset who could provide value, and now they don't.

 

My guess is Silva has a great shot at the rotation. The current one is wide open. They've got a bunch of 6th starters competing for 3 spots to start the season.

[erik316wttn]

So, worst case scenario, hanging onto Bradley would have meant starting him and hoping he could have fit in and mended fences in 2010. Even if he was terrible and the same old Milton, he could have been DFA'ed.

 

Instead, we trade him for a godawful overpaid pitcher who, because of his contract, will most certainly be given the 5th spot in the rotation, further holding out guys who may have great springs like Marshall, Gorz, Wells, etc and will continue to be craptastic every 5th game.

[inari]

Who says Silva is in the rotation though, I doubt Piniella keeps in the rotation unless he beats out everyone else. Though you're right on who they spend it on.

 

Common sense says Silva is in the rotation.

 

How do you figure? Common sense says anybody with Silva's stats doesn't immediately get a spot in the rotation. No way Piniella is that dumb to give him a spot without battling for one.

 

When the competition is Tom Gorzelanny, Sean Marshall, and Jeff Samardzija versus a huge contract, it's common sense. Really. There's not going to be a real competition.

[RynoRules]

Who says Silva is in the rotation though, I doubt Piniella keeps in the rotation unless he beats out everyone else. Though you're right on who they spend it on.

 

Common sense says Silva is in the rotation.

 

How do you figure? Common sense says anybody with Silva's stats doesn't immediately get a spot in the rotation. No way Piniella is that dumb to give him a spot without battling for one.

 

So $15 mill (counting the alleged $9 mill savings) over two years for a middle reliever? I'm betting Rothschild thinks he identified a problem with his mechanics or something.

 

Rothschild is like Jeff Spicoli in "Fast Times at Ridgemont High":

Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

Edited December 18, 2009 by RynoRules

[Garwilly]

Can someone tell me where the 6 million savingsis coming from?

 

Silva is due 25 million

Bradley is due 21 million

Cubs get 9 million

 

Cubs should be saving 5 million (in addition to swapping the players)

[fromthestretch]

Who says Silva is in the rotation though, I doubt Piniella keeps in the rotation unless he beats out everyone else. Though you're right on who they spend it on.

 

Common sense says Silva is in the rotation.

 

How do you figure? Common sense says anybody with Silva's stats doesn't immediately get a spot in the rotation. No way Piniella is that dumb to give him a spot without battling for one.

 

Lou does like pitchers that don't issue walks, and that's the only thing that Silva has actually been good at throughout his career.

[Sever82]

 

The idea that we had no choice but to trade him is patently stupid.

 

Ok genius, so what do you do other than this trade since you seem to know what options were out there. If you release him, you dont get the 6 million that you just saved. And again, not sure how anyone can assume he'll be in the rotation, especially coming off injury and with those numbers.

[RedFlash]

I know who will be my pick to click as to who will be the most hated Cub on this board in 2010 (provided heis still on the team)

[Butterscup1679666578]

 

The idea that we had no choice but to trade him is patently stupid.

 

Ok genius, so what do you do other than this trade since you seem to know what options were out there. If you release him, you dont get the 6 million that you just saved. And again, not sure how anyone can assume he'll be in the rotation, especially coming off injury and with those numbers.

 

Given the injury and those numbers, I don't know how anyone could've thought we were going to trade for him.

 

But we did.

 

He'll start.

[inari]

 

The idea that we had no choice but to trade him is patently stupid.

 

Ok genius, so what do you do other than this trade since you seem to know what options were out there. If you release him, you dont get the 6 million that you just saved. And again, not sure how anyone can assume he'll be in the rotation, especially coming off injury and with those numbers.

 

Well, I am a genius, thank you. The option is to... keep him!

 

And yes, Silva will be in the rotation.

[David]

 

The idea that we had no choice but to trade him is patently stupid.

 

Ok genius, so what do you do other than this trade since you seem to know what options were out there. If you release him, you dont get the 6 million that you just saved. And again, not sure how anyone can assume he'll be in the rotation, especially coming off injury and with those numbers.

 

 

YOU KEEP HIM AND YOU PLAY HIM NEXT YEAR.