Brenly rips Bradley

[SouthSideRyan]

Looks like a slider over the heart of the plate gonna hammer this one...man I hate Milton...wait where am I??

 

*STRIKE 3!!*

[Larry Horse]

yeah how about saying that soriano and miles have been a joke this season? no let's pick on bradley.

 

I believe his quote after Sori's dropped popout yesterday was "Nothing surprises me anymore out there."

 

He then went on to explain how if Sori isn't healthy, he should be shut down for the year because he isn't driving the ball which further highlights the "foibles" in left field.

 

I think some Cubs fans don't want their announcers to bring up anything negative.

 

A lot of Cubs fans hated the Miles signing. The fact that he sucks is not a surprise.

[Guest]

Comparing the "chemistry" this year to last year is ludicrous. Winning begets good feelings which begets good chemistry. Losing begets bad feelings which begets bad chemistry.

 

Shall we discuss physics? That science is much, much more applicable to an individual sport such as baseball.

[davell]

In a perfect world, I'd love to trade Milton.(which means trading him for something else of solid value to our major league team) He IS a headache and brings alot of stuff on himself. That said, he's not why this team has tanked and there is literally NO way we can deal him away without picking up a big portion of his contract unless we dealt for someone else's garbage. It's not worth it, period. He's a very solid player and we need to learn to deal with it. We're not the Yankees and it'd be dumb for us to trade him, opening up another hole we'd have to fill and paying him to play(solidly, I might add) for someone else. Hopefully Hendry realizes that there are plenty of holes to fill on this team already and he doesn't need to go create another one as well.

[flyseye]

At least someone gets it

 

Heyman talked to two GMs about the Cubs and Milton Bradley. One thought the Cubs could unload him by eating half his remaining $21MM; another thought they'd need to assume almost all the money. I am not a Bradley apologist; he's certainly been a distraction. But how would subtracting a .394 OBP make the Cubs' middling offense better?

 

I think the bigger question is why does everyone think the Cubs should ( and most probably would ) have to eat the bulk of a players salary that has a .394 OBP. Think about it.

[CubbieBum]

At least someone gets it

 

Heyman talked to two GMs about the Cubs and Milton Bradley. One thought the Cubs could unload him by eating half his remaining $21MM; another thought they'd need to assume almost all the money. I am not a Bradley apologist; he's certainly been a distraction. But how would subtracting a .394 OBP make the Cubs' middling offense better?

 

I think the bigger question is why does everyone think the Cubs should ( and most probably would ) have to eat the bulk of a players salary that has a .394 OBP. Think about it.

 

Because if we do end up shopping him every team will know we are doing it because of the headache he caused. I think we cold get more than a player like Soriano but we still aren't likely to get full value so its better keeping him.

[Larry Horse]

Because if we do end up shopping him every team will know we are doing it because of the headache he caused. I think we cold get more than a player like Soriano but we still aren't likely to get full value so its better keeping him.

 

No way would the Cubs get more for Soriano.

 

Bradley is starting to show, even though it took about 5-6 months, that he can still hit a little. Soriano has shown absolutely nothing all year. Plus the contracts don't even compare.

 

Everyone keeps saying how Soriano should be a DH. If you were an AL team looking for a DH, who would you rather have for

DH....Soriano or Jake Fox?

[SouthSideRyan]

Because if we do end up shopping him every team will know we are doing it because of the headache he caused. I think we cold get more than a player like Soriano but we still aren't likely to get full value so its better keeping him.

 

No way would the Cubs get more for Soriano.

 

I don't think that's what he said.

 

Bradley is starting to show, even though it took about 5-6 months, that he can still hit a little

 

This [expletive] is getting tiresome. Since April Bradley has a .282/.401/.433 line.

 

Everyone keeps saying how Soriano should be a DH. If you were an AL team looking for a DH, who would you rather have for

DH....Soriano or Jake Fox?

 

Not considering contracts? Soriano, and it's not even close.

[Grit amp Heart]

Alfonso Soriano's career equivalent average is around .285. League average DH is about .280. As great as Fox has been this year his is .289. Just food for thought on the question mentioned.

[NCCubFan]

Too bad Bradley isn't a football player instead of baseball. He'd fit in perfectly with the Raiders or Bengals.

[CUBZ99]

Comparing the "chemistry" this year to last year is ludicrous. Winning begets good feelings which begets good chemistry. Losing begets bad feelings which begets bad chemistry.

 

Shall we discuss physics? That science is much, much more applicable to an individual sport such as baseball.

 

This is an extremely naive viewpoint. Sure chemistry isn't the only factor, or likely even the main factor, for the club's problems, but to completely discount work environment and/or work politics is foolish. As a business owner, it sure helps productivity to have a staff that gets along. I think it is funny that most people think that just because a guy is a baseball player, that he is immune to the same issues that most everyone else deals with on a daily basis.

[17 Seconds]

this season is so similar to 2004 it's ridiculous. well, except for the fact that the 2004 team was actually good.

[BCVM22]

this season is so similar to 2004 it's ridiculous. well, except for the fact that the 2004 team was actually good.

 

Last season was 2004 - all the talent in the world and nothing to show for it, unless you count the "2008" flag on the roof.

 

This is 2005. Sky-high expectations, perceived (rightly or wrongly) key players gone, in contention until the late summer and utter mediocrity abound.

 

Pray we aren't in for another 2006 next season.

[CubbieBum]

Because if we do end up shopping him every team will know we are doing it because of the headache he caused. I think we cold get more than a player like Soriano but we still aren't likely to get full value so its better keeping him.

 

No way would the Cubs get more for Soriano.

 

Bradley is starting to show, even though it took about 5-6 months, that he can still hit a little. Soriano has shown absolutely nothing all year. Plus the contracts don't even compare.

 

Everyone keeps saying how Soriano should be a DH. If you were an AL team looking for a DH, who would you rather have for

DH....Soriano or Jake Fox?

 

Yeah I didn't make it clear in my post. I was posting in a hurry and didn't write it too well. What I was saying is that if we traded Bradley we could get more for him than we would if we traded Soriano but in neither case would we get even close to full value.

[17 Seconds]

this season is so similar to 2004 it's ridiculous. well, except for the fact that the 2004 team was actually good.

 

Last season was 2004 - all the talent in the world and nothing to show for it, unless you count the "2008" flag on the roof.

 

This is 2005. Sky-high expectations, perceived (rightly or wrongly) key players gone, in contention until the late summer and utter mediocrity abound.

 

Pray we aren't in for another 2006 next season.

 

i don't remember the expectations being that high in 2005 at all. they won 89 games the year before and had a bad offseason.

 

this season is so 2004

 

- disappointing season after high expectations

- frustrating/disappointing offense

- color guy (brenly/stone) ripping team members

- controversial/highly paid right fielder who might be working his way out of town

- crappy closer blowing games

- manager making boneheaded moves non-stop

 

the only thing missing is nomar

[BCVM22]

I stand by my assessment. 2007 was 2003, 2008 was 2004, 2009 is 2005.

[17 Seconds]

i just don't see any similarities between 2008 and 2004. the 2008 cubs were the best/most fun team to watch in our lifetimes, right? the 2004 team was nothing but unlikeable. the 2008 cubs were awesome and ran away with the division, but played 3 bad games in october. the 2004 cubs got in their own way constantly all season long and it ended up costing them a shot at the playoffs.

 

the 2008 cubs were awesome in every way. the 2004 cubs were a bunch of underachieving douchebags

[BCVM22]

Fine, you win. 2004 = 2009.

 

Even 89 games might be a pipe dream for this team, though.

[17 Seconds]

they might not get 80

[Guest]

I'd rather see Brenly gone than Bradley.

 

I don't mind Brenly, but if we're picking between the two, I'd absolutely pick Bradley to stay.

[SouthSideRyan]

Comparing the "chemistry" this year to last year is ludicrous. Winning begets good feelings which begets good chemistry. Losing begets bad feelings which begets bad chemistry.

 

Shall we discuss physics? That science is much, much more applicable to an individual sport such as baseball.

 

This is an extremely naive viewpoint. Sure chemistry isn't the only factor, or likely even the main factor, for the club's problems, but to completely discount work environment and/or work politics is foolish. As a business owner, it sure helps productivity to have a staff that gets along. I think it is funny that most people think that just because a guy is a baseball player, that he is immune to the same issues that most everyone else deals with on a daily basis.

 

Why do you think your business is anything like a major league baseball team?

[Geech]

I stand by my assessment. 2007 was 2003, 2008 was 2004, 2009 is 2005.

 

I actually agree with this comparison more. 2004 was a good, talented team that collapsed at the end. The difference between 2004 and 2008 is that in 2008 it happened in the postseason. 2009 feels like 2005 because in both years I had good expectations for the team going into the season and both years were colossal disappointments.

[CUBZ99]

Comparing the "chemistry" this year to last year is ludicrous. Winning begets good feelings which begets good chemistry. Losing begets bad feelings which begets bad chemistry.

 

Shall we discuss physics? That science is much, much more applicable to an individual sport such as baseball.

 

This is an extremely naive viewpoint. Sure chemistry isn't the only factor, or likely even the main factor, for the club's problems, but to completely discount work environment and/or work politics is foolish. As a business owner, it sure helps productivity to have a staff that gets along. I think it is funny that most people think that just because a guy is a baseball player, that he is immune to the same issues that most everyone else deals with on a daily basis.

 

Why do you think your business is anything like a major league baseball team?

 

Because it involves people. Why do you assume it isn't? If anything the stress associated with playing professional baseball including, regular travel and nearly 6 months of working everyday with very few off days would make interpersonal relationship even more important than the average job.

[SouthSideRyan]

Baseball involves a series of individual events. He's not working on projects with his teammates. He's not taking part in conference calls. He's going up and swinging a bat at pitches that come across the plate. What that has to do with the names somebody else called him in the dugout is beyond me.

[Rob]

Comparing the "chemistry" this year to last year is ludicrous. Winning begets good feelings which begets good chemistry. Losing begets bad feelings which begets bad chemistry.

 

Shall we discuss physics? That science is much, much more applicable to an individual sport such as baseball.

 

This is an extremely naive viewpoint. Sure chemistry isn't the only factor, or likely even the main factor, for the club's problems, but to completely discount work environment and/or work politics is foolish. As a business owner, it sure helps productivity to have a staff that gets along. I think it is funny that most people think that just because a guy is a baseball player, that he is immune to the same issues that most everyone else deals with on a daily basis.

 

Why do you think your business is anything like a major league baseball team?

 

Because it involves people. Why do you assume it isn't? If anything the stress associated with playing professional baseball including, regular travel and nearly 6 months of working everyday with very few off days would make interpersonal relationship even more important than the average job.

 

what makes anybody thing that happy ballplayers are more productive? Some of the best players we've ever seen in baseball are miserable jerks.