8/16 Other Games

[illiniguy]

Let's just hang with them as much as possible and the Wild Card will take care of itself.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Let's just hang with them as much as possible and the Wild Card will take care of itself.

Hopefully the NL West teams beat up on each other and the Cubs make up ground against inferior opponents. I think Colorado and San Francisco are the only real contenders and they both have what appear to be more difficult schedules.

[illiniguy]

Let's just hang with them as much as possible and the Wild Card will take care of itself.

Hopefully the NL West teams beat up on each other and the Cubs make up ground against inferior opponents. I think Colorado and San Francisco are the only real contenders and they both have what appear to be more difficult schedules.

That they do, but never ever count out the Marlins.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Let's just hang with them as much as possible and the Wild Card will take care of itself.

Hopefully the NL West teams beat up on each other and the Cubs make up ground against inferior opponents. I think Colorado and San Francisco are the only real contenders and they both have what appear to be more difficult schedules.

That they do, but never ever count out the Marlins.

I don't know. They finish up with 4 of their last 6 series against St. Louis, Philadephia, and Atlanta (and most of them on the road). I'm counting them out. :D

[BCVM22]

The Cards can go [expletive] themselves. Unbelievable.

[Fred Hornkohl]

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[gflore34]

I guarentee you, Cardinals pixie dust or not, Lohse, Wellemeyer, Franklin, Pineiro, ie anyone not named Carpenter or Wainwright will implode in the playoffs. Holliday and Lugo both OPSing 1.200 or whatever, this is baseball, and sooner or later regression to the mean will play a role wouldn't suprise me a bit if they went stone cold in the palyoffs. Same applies to the Rockies, Marquis? Yeah, he'll get destroyed in the playoffs.

[illiniguy]

I guarentee you, Cardinals pixie dust or not, Lohse, Wellemeyer, Franklin, Pineiro, ie anyone not named Carpenter or Wainwright will implode in the playoffs. Holliday and Lugo both OPSing 1.200 or whatever, this is baseball, and sooner or later regression to the mean will play a role wouldn't suprise me a bit if they went stone cold in the palyoffs. Same applies to the Rockies, Marquis? Yeah, he'll get destroyed in the playoffs.

Did you miss '06?

[gflore34]

I guarentee you, Cardinals pixie dust or not, Lohse, Wellemeyer, Franklin, Pineiro, ie anyone not named Carpenter or Wainwright will implode in the playoffs. Holliday and Lugo both OPSing 1.200 or whatever, this is baseball, and sooner or later regression to the mean will play a role wouldn't suprise me a bit if they went stone cold in the palyoffs. Same applies to the Rockies, Marquis? Yeah, he'll get destroyed in the playoffs.

Did you miss '06?

 

You're right, what am I talking about, Franklin will probably set some kind of a post season save record along with Lohse and Pineiro throwing a combined 18 or so shutout innings.

[illiniguy]

I guarentee you, Cardinals pixie dust or not, Lohse, Wellemeyer, Franklin, Pineiro, ie anyone not named Carpenter or Wainwright will implode in the playoffs. Holliday and Lugo both OPSing 1.200 or whatever, this is baseball, and sooner or later regression to the mean will play a role wouldn't suprise me a bit if they went stone cold in the palyoffs. Same applies to the Rockies, Marquis? Yeah, he'll get destroyed in the playoffs.

Did you miss '06?

 

You're right, what am I talking about, Franklin will probably set some kind of a post season save record along with Lohse and Pineiro throwing a combined 18 or so shutout innings.

Eh they are good now. But, the crushing every all star reliever thing is getting a bit old.

[Z38Cubs]

On a lighter note, Heath Bell had some quote of the year material after the game.

 

Bell took a ground ball off his right leg earlier in the inning on a comebacker by Mark DeRosa but wouldn't use that as an excuse.

 

"Yeah, it was throbbing but I blocked it out pretty good," Bell said. "I was surprised how big it was when I took my pants off."

[UMFan83]

I could care less about the Cardinals unless we come to within 2 games of them. We just need to worry about winning our own ballgames. If we have too many more stretches like we had last week, we aren't going to the playoffs no matter how good/bad the Cardinals do.

[manbearcub]

how much less could you care?

[Vanilla Ice]

a lot

[UMFan83]

how much less could you care?

 

Oh yeah isn't that one of the board's pet peeves or something?

[Outshined_One]

how much less could you care?

 

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[chuckywang]

I just love hearing how we are only playing well cause we are playing bad teams. While they are in the middle of playing Padres, Nationals, Reds, and Pirates.

 

Yea but now they get to play LA in LA, I really hope LA doesnt lay down for them in this series like they did in Stl. LA had plenty of chances to beat their ass in Stl and gave them each game.

 

The Cards miss Billingsley cause of his tender hammy. They get to face knuckleballer Charlie Haeger instead. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Little Slide Rooter]

I guarentee you, Cardinals pixie dust or not, Lohse, Wellemeyer, Franklin, Pineiro, ie anyone not named Carpenter or Wainwright will implode in the playoffs. Holliday and Lugo both OPSing 1.200 or whatever, this is baseball, and sooner or later regression to the mean will play a role wouldn't suprise me a bit if they went stone cold in the palyoffs. Same applies to the Rockies, Marquis? Yeah, he'll get destroyed in the playoffs.

Did you miss '06?

 

You're right, what am I talking about, Franklin will probably set some kind of a post season save record along with Lohse and Pineiro throwing a combined 18 or so shutout innings.

Eh they are good now. But, the crushing every all star reliever thing is getting a bit old.

 

When the heart of their lineup consisted of Pujols, Ludwick, Molina/Ankiel, they were getting lucky, but now theyve turned in their pixie dust for good player. DeRosa-Pujols-Holliday-Ludwick-Rasmus-Molina-Lugo is a pretty tough gauntlet to go through. If Glause comes back, thats a damn good bat off the bench. I agree about their pitching aside from Carpenter and Wainwright, but how good is the Phillies pitching once you get around Lee and Hammels, whose not doing too well himself? Are Pedro, Myers, Blanton that much to write home about? What about their pen? Chan Ho Park has had a spectacular re birth as a reliever so far, and Eyre doing pretty good for himself but Lidge has fallen apart completely. How about the Dodgers? Billingsly-Kershaw are a nice 1-2, but behind them, you have Wolf, Kuroda, and Schmidt, again, nothing to worry about. Id take our rotation over either of those any day. Broxton a great closer, and Troncoso or whatever has become their Marmol, but I couldnt name another member of their pen. In the playoffs, that solid 1-2 is all you really need. Im not saying the Cardinals will cruise through the playoffs, but once they'ren there, they have as good a chance as the Phillies and Dodgers.

[nwg414]

I just love hearing how we are only playing well cause we are playing bad teams. While they are in the middle of playing Padres, Nationals, Reds, and Pirates.

 

Yea but now they get to play LA in LA, I really hope LA doesnt lay down for them in this series like they did in Stl. LA had plenty of chances to beat their ass in Stl and gave them each game.

 

The Cards miss Billingsley cause of his tender hammy. They get to face knuckleballer Charlie Haeger instead. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

 

Billingsley is scheduled to pitch the second game of the series on Tuesday unless something has changed. I just checked the probable starters.

[dew1679666265]

When the heart of their lineup consisted of Pujols, Ludwick, Molina/Ankiel, they were getting lucky, but now theyve turned in their pixie dust for good player. DeRosa-Pujols-Holliday-Ludwick-Rasmus-Molina-Lugo is a pretty tough gauntlet to go through.

 

They certainly improved their lineup by acquiring Holliday, but both he and Lugo have played well over their heads since going to St. Louis.

 

Holliday OPS in Oakland this year: .831

Holliday OPS in St. Louis this year: 1.266

 

Lugo OPS in Boston this year: .719

Lugo OPS in St. Louis this year: .987

 

If those two come back to earth, that's a decent lineup but not a gauntlet. Other than Pujols you have Rasmus with a .742 OPS, DeRosa with a .792 OPS, Ludwick with an .800 OPS and Molina with a .747 OPS.

 

The Cardinals are likely to have a lineup with four players over an .800 OPS the rest of the way (Pujols, DeRosa, Ludwick, Holliday).

[Little Slide Rooter]

When the heart of their lineup consisted of Pujols, Ludwick, Molina/Ankiel, they were getting lucky, but now theyve turned in their pixie dust for good player. DeRosa-Pujols-Holliday-Ludwick-Rasmus-Molina-Lugo is a pretty tough gauntlet to go through.

 

They certainly improved their lineup by acquiring Holliday, but both he and Lugo have played well over their heads since going to St. Louis.

 

Holliday OPS in Oakland this year: .831

Holliday OPS in St. Louis this year: 1.266

 

Lugo OPS in Boston this year: .719

Lugo OPS in St. Louis this year: .987

 

If those two come back to earth, that's a decent lineup but not a gauntlet. Other than Pujols you have Rasmus with a .742 OPS, DeRosa with a .792 OPS, Ludwick with an .800 OPS and Molina with a .747 OPS.

 

The Cardinals are likely to have a lineup with four players over an .800 OPS the rest of the way (Pujols, DeRosa, Ludwick, Holliday).

 

Ill give you Lugo, but I think Holidays legit. It could be said that Hollidays decline this year was due to leaving Coors, but kepp in ind, that A's lineup is pretty much garbage, and he had no protection, and now that hes sandwiched between Pujols and Ludwick, hes being pitched to differently. I doubt he keeps up the 1.300 OPS, but somewhere in the mid-hi 9s wouldnt surprise me. Hopefully he flyd the coop next year and the Cards go back to their mediocrity. Can they even afford both him and Pujols, who will be a FA in 2011?

[dew1679666265]

When the heart of their lineup consisted of Pujols, Ludwick, Molina/Ankiel, they were getting lucky, but now theyve turned in their pixie dust for good player. DeRosa-Pujols-Holliday-Ludwick-Rasmus-Molina-Lugo is a pretty tough gauntlet to go through.

 

They certainly improved their lineup by acquiring Holliday, but both he and Lugo have played well over their heads since going to St. Louis.

 

Holliday OPS in Oakland this year: .831

Holliday OPS in St. Louis this year: 1.266

 

Lugo OPS in Boston this year: .719

Lugo OPS in St. Louis this year: .987

 

If those two come back to earth, that's a decent lineup but not a gauntlet. Other than Pujols you have Rasmus with a .742 OPS, DeRosa with a .792 OPS, Ludwick with an .800 OPS and Molina with a .747 OPS.

 

The Cardinals are likely to have a lineup with four players over an .800 OPS the rest of the way (Pujols, DeRosa, Ludwick, Holliday).

 

Ill give you Lugo, but I think Holidays legit. It could be said that Hollidays decline this year was due to leaving Coors, but kepp in ind, that A's lineup is pretty much garbage, and he had no protection, and now that hes sandwiched between Pujols and Ludwick, hes being pitched to differently. I doubt he keeps up the 1.300 OPS, but somewhere in the mid-hi 9s wouldnt surprise me. Hopefully he flyd the coop next year and the Cards go back to their mediocrity. Can they even afford both him and Pujols, who will be a FA in 2011?

 

Even if Holliday could keep up a .900+ OPS pace (possible), that's still just two really good hitters, a couple average to below average hitters and not much else. I think they can probably afford both Pujols and Holliday, but they're going to have to let a number of FAs go after the year to do it.

 

And on a random side note, I noticed something looking at Oakland's lineup this year - Rajai Davis is having a really good year. His OPS is just .801, but that's mainly because he's slugging just .430. But, his average is at .300 and his OBP is at .371 - good for a .71 isoD. As a cheap option, he's a nice top of the order hitter doing that.

[illiniguy]

When the heart of their lineup consisted of Pujols, Ludwick, Molina/Ankiel, they were getting lucky, but now theyve turned in their pixie dust for good player. DeRosa-Pujols-Holliday-Ludwick-Rasmus-Molina-Lugo is a pretty tough gauntlet to go through.

 

They certainly improved their lineup by acquiring Holliday, but both he and Lugo have played well over their heads since going to St. Louis.

 

Holliday OPS in Oakland this year: .831

Holliday OPS in St. Louis this year: 1.266

 

Lugo OPS in Boston this year: .719

Lugo OPS in St. Louis this year: .987

 

If those two come back to earth, that's a decent lineup but not a gauntlet. Other than Pujols you have Rasmus with a .742 OPS, DeRosa with a .792 OPS, Ludwick with an .800 OPS and Molina with a .747 OPS.

 

The Cardinals are likely to have a lineup with four players over an .800 OPS the rest of the way (Pujols, DeRosa, Ludwick, Holliday).

 

Ill give you Lugo, but I think Holidays legit. It could be said that Hollidays decline this year was due to leaving Coors, but kepp in ind, that A's lineup is pretty much garbage, and he had no protection, and now that hes sandwiched between Pujols and Ludwick, hes being pitched to differently. I doubt he keeps up the 1.300 OPS, but somewhere in the mid-hi 9s wouldnt surprise me. Hopefully he flyd the coop next year and the Cards go back to their mediocrity. Can they even afford both him and Pujols, who will be a FA in 2011?

Holiday is legit in that he is a good player, not that he is better than Albert Pujols has ever been. Pujols has never had an OPS over 1.133. He's going crazy right now and will stop at some point.