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If they get the revenue and the clearance to raise the payroll, why would you care if getting Peavy would increase the payroll? So what if we are 3rd in the majors? Peavy would make the team better. If we get a deal that is fair and have the payroll to take on the contract there is no reason that Hendry shouldn't pull the trigger.

 

 

Because it's very likely that over the next year or two, there will be many opportunities to add players with higher "surplus value" over $$ cost than Peavy. He is signed for slightly under market value, but the contract is nothing great to the team signing him for sure, merely decent-to-good value for the $$. There will be many other players available in trades and even FA, where the same $$ might improve the Cubs by more- I doubt a Peavy deal would be the best way to spend the money he'll require, UNLESS we get a GREAT deal from SD on prospects required due to Peavy's no-trade. Most of the deals I've seen (except the ridic Cub fan proposals...Pie, Cedeno, Hill! haha) are not really good enough to pull the trigger yet. I'd keep looking at lots of guys over the next month or two. The rotation is solid as is, barring a couple injuries.

 

i tend to agree with this. plus i have concern about paying this much for starting pitching:

 

2010: 15M - peavy, 19M - zambrano, 13.5M - dempster, 12M - lilly (59.5M)

2011: 16M - peavy, 19M - zambrano, 14.5M - dempster (49.5M)

2012: 17M - peavy, 19M - zambrano, (15M - dempster) (51.0M)

2013: (22M - peavy), (19.25M - zambrano) (41.25M)

 

that's a buttload of money. then they're already dedicating the following to other players:

 

2010: 14M - fukudome, 11M - bradley, 13M - lee, 16.75M - ARam, 19M - soriano (73.75M)

2011: 14.5M - fukudome, (12M - bradley), (14.6M - ARam,) 19M - soriano (60.1M)

2012: 16M - ARam, 19M - soriano (35M)

 

so if all options vest/are picked up, they'd be looking at:

 

2010: 133.25M for 9 players (!!!!)

2011: 109.6M for 7 players

2012: 86M for 5 players

 

that's quite a salary crunch, especially in 2010 and 2011, and if you want the cubs to make any sort of improvements - 2B, bullpen - it's best that peavy not be acquired.

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So Ive heard that Axlerod was on ESPN 1000 and was talking about how much Peavy wants to be a part of the Cubs.. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: Way to go Hendry

 

I posted the link to the podcast. He said he would strongly consider the Cubs then sounded like he laughed.. like it was clear he would like to be a Cub.

 

Also this isnt Hendry's fault he's not a Cub yet. By all accounts it has much more to do with the dragging of the ownership situation.

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While Peavy really should not be our top priority here, if they really did want him, whats to stop Hendry and Towers from discussing the potential pieces of the deal and then as soon as the sale is complete its done and all thats left is paperwork? Surely Hendry has a better idea of how close it is to completion than the rest ofus. Afterall, they'll be in San Diego all weekend.
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While Peavy really should not be our top priority here, if they really did want him, whats to stop Hendry and Towers from discussing the potential pieces of the deal and then as soon as the sale is complete its done and all thats left is paperwork? Surely Hendry has a better idea of how close it is to completion than the rest ofus. Afterall, they'll be in San Diego all weekend.

 

For all we know this could be happening.

 

Axelrod mentions on the podcast that since December everything has been much more private. There is discussions right now but it will not be publicized. Who knows if those discussions are with the Cubs or not, but one thing Im sure of is none of know for sure what is going on behind the scenes.

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While Peavy really should not be our top priority here, if they really did want him, whats to stop Hendry and Towers from discussing the potential pieces of the deal and then as soon as the sale is complete its done and all thats left is paperwork? Surely Hendry has a better idea of how close it is to completion than the rest ofus. Afterall, they'll be in San Diego all weekend.

 

For all we know this could be happening.

 

Axelrod mentions on the podcast that since December everything has been much more private. There is discussions right now but it will not be publicized. Who knows if those discussions are with the Cubs or not, but one thing Im sure of is none of know for sure what is going on behind the scenes.

 

God knows Hendry isnt doing anything else worthwhile.

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While Peavy really should not be our top priority here, if they really did want him, whats to stop Hendry and Towers from discussing the potential pieces of the deal and then as soon as the sale is complete its done and all thats left is paperwork? Surely Hendry has a better idea of how close it is to completion than the rest ofus. Afterall, they'll be in San Diego all weekend.

 

For all we know this could be happening.

 

Axelrod mentions on the podcast that since December everything has been much more private. There is discussions right now but it will not be publicized. Who knows if those discussions are with the Cubs or not, but one thing Im sure of is none of know for sure what is going on behind the scenes.

 

God knows Hendry isnt doing anything else worthwhile.

 

i bet he's just sitting around eating donuts lololol

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You know that behind the scenes that once Peavy heard about the trade to the Sox he was probably like " LOL, The White Sox? Why in the hell would I want to play for that team of senior citizens and the black sheep of Chicago?" Then they try to play it off to the media like it was such a tough descison and he really considered it.
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While Peavy really should not be our top priority here, if they really did want him, whats to stop Hendry and Towers from discussing the potential pieces of the deal and then as soon as the sale is complete its done and all thats left is paperwork? Surely Hendry has a better idea of how close it is to completion than the rest ofus. Afterall, they'll be in San Diego all weekend.

 

For all we know this could be happening.

 

Axelrod mentions on the podcast that since December everything has been much more private. There is discussions right now but it will not be publicized. Who knows if those discussions are with the Cubs or not, but one thing Im sure of is none of know for sure what is going on behind the scenes.

 

God knows Hendry isnt doing anything else worthwhile.

 

i bet he's just sitting around eating donuts lololol

 

Now that I think about it, had there been any ground made on a deal to send Peavy to his choses destination, and they were waiting on ownership, would Towers have been so quick to send him the another team?

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While Peavy really should not be our top priority here, if they really did want him, whats to stop Hendry and Towers from discussing the potential pieces of the deal and then as soon as the sale is complete its done and all thats left is paperwork? Surely Hendry has a better idea of how close it is to completion than the rest ofus. Afterall, they'll be in San Diego all weekend.

 

For all we know this could be happening.

 

Axelrod mentions on the podcast that since December everything has been much more private. There is discussions right now but it will not be publicized. Who knows if those discussions are with the Cubs or not, but one thing Im sure of is none of know for sure what is going on behind the scenes.

 

God knows Hendry isnt doing anything else worthwhile.

 

It sounded very much like Peavy didn't want the trade talks to be so public and didn't like that Towers was using the media as leverage. Something Hendry also didn't like and was detrimental to the Cubs.

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While Peavy really should not be our top priority here, if they really did want him, whats to stop Hendry and Towers from discussing the potential pieces of the deal and then as soon as the sale is complete its done and all thats left is paperwork? Surely Hendry has a better idea of how close it is to completion than the rest ofus. Afterall, they'll be in San Diego all weekend.

 

For all we know this could be happening.

 

Axelrod mentions on the podcast that since December everything has been much more private. There is discussions right now but it will not be publicized. Who knows if those discussions are with the Cubs or not, but one thing Im sure of is none of know for sure what is going on behind the scenes.

 

God knows Hendry isnt doing anything else worthwhile.

 

i bet he's just sitting around eating donuts lololol

 

God knows LLF has no clue what he's talking about.

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While Peavy really should not be our top priority here, if they really did want him, whats to stop Hendry and Towers from discussing the potential pieces of the deal and then as soon as the sale is complete its done and all thats left is paperwork? Surely Hendry has a better idea of how close it is to completion than the rest ofus. Afterall, they'll be in San Diego all weekend.

 

For all we know this could be happening.

 

Axelrod mentions on the podcast that since December everything has been much more private. There is discussions right now but it will not be publicized. Who knows if those discussions are with the Cubs or not, but one thing Im sure of is none of know for sure what is going on behind the scenes.

 

God knows Hendry isnt doing anything else worthwhile.

 

i bet he's just sitting around eating donuts lololol

 

God knows LLF has no clue what he's talking about.

 

If I knew half as much as you seem to think you do, Id be off trying to cure cancer or achieving world peace, but I dont, and I doubt you do either or else you wouldnt be frequenting a message board.

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Just keep acting like you have the slightest shred of a clue as to what is going on in the Cubs' front office right now. Toss in another Jake Fox plug while you're at it, too.
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Just keep acting like you have the slightest shred of a clue as to what is going on in the Cubs' front office right now. Toss in another Jake Fox plug while you're at it, too.

 

Funny you should say that, as I post my opinions, and eveything you say seems to be in a matter of fact type of way. We get it. you're edgy. you're sarcastic, but when it comes to this type of situation, you dont know anymore than I do or any of these other people who you so enjoy talking down to.

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While Peavy really should not be our top priority here, if they really did want him, whats to stop Hendry and Towers from discussing the potential pieces of the deal and then as soon as the sale is complete its done and all thats left is paperwork? Surely Hendry has a better idea of how close it is to completion than the rest ofus. Afterall, they'll be in San Diego all weekend.

 

For all we know this could be happening.

 

Axelrod mentions on the podcast that since December everything has been much more private. There is discussions right now but it will not be publicized. Who knows if those discussions are with the Cubs or not, but one thing Im sure of is none of know for sure what is going on behind the scenes.

 

God knows Hendry isnt doing anything else worthwhile.

 

You have no idea what Hendry is doing.

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If I knew half as much as you seem to think you do, Id be off trying to cure cancer or achieving world peace, but I dont, and I doubt you do either or else you wouldnt be frequenting a message board.

 

i'm fairly certain that hendry is exploring options to improve the team. the guy has been, if nothing else, very dedicated to his job and not afraid to make moves. just because he isn't sending out a press release every day to say who he's looking at and what the demands are for the players he's interested in doesn't mean that he's just farting around all day.

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Just keep acting like you have the slightest shred of a clue as to what is going on in the Cubs' front office right now. Toss in another Jake Fox plug while you're at it, too.

 

Funny you should say that, as I post my opinions, and eveything you say seems to be in a matter of fact type of way. We get it. you're edgy. you're sarcastic, but when it comes to this type of situation, you dont know anymore than I do or any of these other people who you so enjoy talking down to.

 

I think I'm "edgy" because I don't spaz out on a message board over complete conjecture?

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Just keep acting like you have the slightest shred of a clue as to what is going on in the Cubs' front office right now. Toss in another Jake Fox plug while you're at it, too.

 

Funny you should say that, as I post my opinions, and eveything you say seems to be in a matter of fact type of way. We get it. you're edgy. you're sarcastic, but when it comes to this type of situation, you dont know anymore than I do or any of these other people who you so enjoy talking down to.

 

I think I'm "edgy" because I don't spaz out on a message board over complete conjecture?

 

Define "spazzing out", as I havnt heard said term since I believe 1988. Or maybe you just read a bit too much into one comment, possible?

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Oh, if only it was just one.

 

There are anti Hendry, fire Hendry, Hendrys killing this team comments all over this board by a lot, a lot of posters, but for some reason, you decide to go full force about this one. Ive never claimed to know whats going on in the Cubs front offices. granted, there are those who seem to think they know a bit more than they possibly do. I actually find you quite entertaining at times but seriously, I think you over reacted to that one comment.

Posted
While Peavy really should not be our top priority here, if they really did want him, whats to stop Hendry and Towers from discussing the potential pieces of the deal and then as soon as the sale is complete its done and all thats left is paperwork? Surely Hendry has a better idea of how close it is to completion than the rest ofus. Afterall, they'll be in San Diego all weekend.

 

That would be a possibility, but it won't mean a whole lot. If another team that Peavy wants to go to swoops in and offers a better deal, there's no reason for Towers to turn that deal down.

 

A handshake/gentleman's agreement between Hendry and Towers before the Cubs can actually do the deal would only hurt Towers in his attempt to get the premium price for Peavy.

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This team does not seem like it's just Jake Peavy away from winning the World Series so I don't see what the great fuss about acquiring him is about. Yeah it would make the Cubs better in the same way acquiring Matt Holliday made the A's better, in a kind of "What the hell is actually going to come of it" way.

 

The misconception with this franchise, I think, is that we are perpetually one player away from winning the World Series, when in reality it's at least two and in my book, most likely three, or more like one injury from becoming the 2003 Mets.

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I think a lot of us are at the point where we want to make a trade, any trade not necessarily to make this a better team, but were tired of looking at the same mugs. Why not let Jake Peavy throw a wasted gem or Hank BLalock dribble a weak grounder to 2nd to end a fake rally. Surely Aubrey Huff can hit a lazy pop up just as good as Milton Bradley or Mike Fontenot.
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Oh, if only it was just one.

 

There are anti Hendry, fire Hendry, Hendrys killing this team comments all over this board by a lot, a lot of posters, but for some reason, you decide to go full force about this one. Ive never claimed to know whats going on in the Cubs front offices. granted, there are those who seem to think they know a bit more than they possibly do. I actually find you quite entertaining at times but seriously, I think you over reacted to that one comment.

 

I think you're kidding yourself about it just being one comment. That one comment is pretty much reflective of your posting style, and I can see why that style would grow old on some people pretty quickly.

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The clock is ticking and the Cubs have a brief window right now to get a Jake Peavy deal done. The Padres' horrible financial situation precipitated the White Sox talks, and has San Diego now talking again to the only two teams for which Peavy is interested in playing at the moment. He will waive his no-trade for the Cubs or the Dodgers, but you have to think that if the Padres can't move Peavy's contract very soon, perhaps within a week or two, they'll begin offloading salaries, and at that point they might as well keep Peavy. So it may be that Tom Ricketts has only a short time to give GM Jim Hendry the OK to make the Peavy deal.

 

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296123

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