Peavy Puts Kibosh on Trade to White Sox (P. 8)

[dew1679666265]

The clock is ticking and the Cubs have a brief window right now to get a Jake Peavy deal done. The Padres' horrible financial situation precipitated the White Sox talks, and has San Diego now talking again to the only two teams for which Peavy is interested in playing at the moment. He will waive his no-trade for the Cubs or the Dodgers, but you have to think that if the Padres can't move Peavy's contract very soon, perhaps within a week or two, they'll begin offloading salaries, and at that point they might as well keep Peavy. So it may be that Tom Ricketts has only a short time to give GM Jim Hendry the OK to make the Peavy deal.

 

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296123

 

Problem is, Ricketts can't give the ok until he's officially the owner. He won't be that until the sale is completed.

[CUBZ99]

The clock is ticking and the Cubs have a brief window right now to get a Jake Peavy deal done. The Padres' horrible financial situation precipitated the White Sox talks, and has San Diego now talking again to the only two teams for which Peavy is interested in playing at the moment. He will waive his no-trade for the Cubs or the Dodgers, but you have to think that if the Padres can't move Peavy's contract very soon, perhaps within a week or two, they'll begin offloading salaries, and at that point they might as well keep Peavy. So it may be that Tom Ricketts has only a short time to give GM Jim Hendry the OK to make the Peavy deal.

 

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296123

 

Problem is, Ricketts can't give the ok until he's officially the owner. He won't be that until the sale is completed.

 

Good to see that the Cubs are back in negotiations with San Diego. I'm positive that if Ricketts was okay with adding Peavy's salary that the deal would be consummated. At this point there is little doubt that Ricketts will be the new owner.

[dew1679666265]

The clock is ticking and the Cubs have a brief window right now to get a Jake Peavy deal done. The Padres' horrible financial situation precipitated the White Sox talks, and has San Diego now talking again to the only two teams for which Peavy is interested in playing at the moment. He will waive his no-trade for the Cubs or the Dodgers, but you have to think that if the Padres can't move Peavy's contract very soon, perhaps within a week or two, they'll begin offloading salaries, and at that point they might as well keep Peavy. So it may be that Tom Ricketts has only a short time to give GM Jim Hendry the OK to make the Peavy deal.

 

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296123

 

Problem is, Ricketts can't give the ok until he's officially the owner. He won't be that until the sale is completed.

 

Good to see that the Cubs are back in negotiations with San Diego. I'm positive that if Ricketts was okay with adding Peavy's salary that the deal would be consummated. At this point there is little doubt that Ricketts will be the new owner.

 

There is little doubt that he'll be the owner, but it's not set in stone yet. That's why I wonder if we can actually make a trade for him yet.

[Backtobanks]

Can Peavy play 3B and hit >.200?

[CUBZ99]

Can Peavy play 3B and hit >.200?

 

I'm sure if Hendry gets the green light, he will find a way to get Kouzmanoff in the deal.

[Rusch33]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

[TruffleShuffle]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

when has hendry severely overpaid in a trade? i've got one in like 6 years of him being a GM, juan pierre. in trades for good major league players, hendry has actually not paid all that much (nomar, lee, ramirez, harden).

[RynoRules]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

when has hendry severely overpaid in a trade? i've got one in like 6 years of him being a GM, juan pierre. in trades for good major league players, hendry has actually not paid all that much (nomar, lee, ramirez, harden).

 

I wonder if Hoff is going to be part of this along with all the usual suspects.

 

Oh, Hendry also overpaid for Kevin "[expletive]" Gregg.

[CubColtPacer]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

when has hendry severely overpaid in a trade? i've got one in like 6 years of him being a GM, juan pierre. in trades for good major league players, hendry has actually not paid all that much (nomar, lee, ramirez, harden).

 

I wonder if Hoff is going to be part of this along with all the usual suspects.

 

Oh, Hendry also overpaid for Kevin "[expletive]" Gregg.

 

It's hard to say with the Gregg trade. We only know what the Cubs thought about Ceda, and that was the fact that several pitchers had passed him up on the pitching prospect chart. This wasn't a situation where they were giving up a guy they valued highly but they loved Gregg enough to give him up...this was a guy they were starting to sour on.

 

My guess is that they really wanted to trade him before his trade value got as low as they believed his actual value was, and that they got the best player they could for him. And his trade value has been dropping steadily since then (and while you can't completely predict injuries, Ceda's conditioning made him a prime target for an injury).

[Clem Fandango]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

when has hendry severely overpaid in a trade? i've got one in like 6 years of him being a GM, juan pierre. in trades for good major league players, hendry has actually not paid all that much (nomar, lee, ramirez, harden).

 

I wonder if Hoff is going to be part of this along with all the usual suspects.

 

Oh, Hendry also overpaid for Kevin "[expletive]" Gregg.

 

I don't see why the Padres would need someone like Hoffpauir. Gonzalez has him blocked (and they got Blanks in the minors), they probably won't move Giles for reasons similar to the Cubs not moving Lee. He could take time away from Chase Headley, that's about it. But Headley has been a casualty of home/road splits. He's not too bad when hitting away from Petco, so who's to say Hoffpauir will be as good as Headley is in Petco?

 

Now that I think about it, it'd be nice if they swing a deal for Peavy & Headley, since Headley is primarily a 3B, but that won't happen

 

When all this is over, I just really hope Vitters is still on the team one way or the other. I'm not gonna hold my breath on that though if a deal actually goes through

[Little Slide Rooter]

They wanted to trade Kouz to make room for Heddy(Thats Headly), so if a 3B were to be included, it would be Kouz.

[Cubswin11]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

when has hendry severely overpaid in a trade? i've got one in like 6 years of him being a GM, juan pierre. in trades for good major league players, hendry has actually not paid all that much (nomar, lee, ramirez, harden).

 

I wonder if Hoff is going to be part of this along with all the usual suspects.

 

Oh, Hendry also overpaid for Kevin "[expletive]" Gregg.

 

I don't see why the Padres would need someone like Hoffpauir. Gonzalez has him blocked (and they got Blanks in the minors), they probably won't move Giles for reasons similar to the Cubs not moving Lee. He could take time away from Chase Headley, that's about it. But Headley has been a casualty of home/road splits. He's not too bad when hitting away from Petco, so who's to say Hoffpauir will be as good as Headley is in Petco?

 

Now that I think about it, it'd be nice if they swing a deal for Peavy & Headley, since Headley is primarily a 3B, but that won't happen

 

When all this is over, I just really hope Vitters is still on the team one way or the other. I'm not gonna hold my breath on that though if a deal actually goes through

I think there is a chance that Vitters doesn't need to be involved, but I think 1 of Vitters or Jackson will be. A package built around Wells/Marshall (a guy who can get them innings in the bigs now, and be at least league average), Jackson, Archer and Starlin Castro or Josh Harrison might be a good starting point to go off of and add 1 or 2 guys.

[mcgoobs]

The clock is ticking and the Cubs have a brief window right now to get a Jake Peavy deal done. The Padres' horrible financial situation precipitated the White Sox talks, and has San Diego now talking again to the only two teams for which Peavy is interested in playing at the moment. He will waive his no-trade for the Cubs or the Dodgers, but you have to think that if the Padres can't move Peavy's contract very soon, perhaps within a week or two, they'll begin offloading salaries, and at that point they might as well keep Peavy. So it may be that Tom Ricketts has only a short time to give GM Jim Hendry the OK to make the Peavy deal.

 

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296123

 

To save or come close to saving the $11 MM that Peavy's contract costs this year, the team would have to move Brian Giles - who nixed a deal to the Red Sox when they were contending - and one of Adrian Gonzalez, Chris Young, Jody Gerut, Heath Bell, or Scott Hairston. That seems like a tricky thing for the Padres to do right now.

 

Link

 

Additionally moving Peavy will remove the albatross for the coming years, as has been noted on this board many times.

[SweetZombieJesus]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

I have no doubt he will overpay. But look on the bright side. When hendry is fired we can hire Depo and he'll rebuild the farm like he did for the dodgers.

[SweetZombieJesus]

The clock is ticking and the Cubs have a brief window right now to get a Jake Peavy deal done. The Padres' horrible financial situation precipitated the White Sox talks, and has San Diego now talking again to the only two teams for which Peavy is interested in playing at the moment. He will waive his no-trade for the Cubs or the Dodgers, but you have to think that if the Padres can't move Peavy's contract very soon, perhaps within a week or two, they'll begin offloading salaries, and at that point they might as well keep Peavy. So it may be that Tom Ricketts has only a short time to give GM Jim Hendry the OK to make the Peavy deal.

 

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296123

 

To save or come close to saving the $11 MM that Peavy's contract costs this year, the team would have to move Brian Giles - who nixed a deal to the Red Sox when they were contending - and one of Adrian Gonzalez, Chris Young, Jody Gerut, Heath Bell, or Scott Hairston. That seems like a tricky thing for the Padres to do right now.

 

Link

 

Additionally moving Peavy will remove the albatross for the coming years, as has been noted on this board many times.

 

They already moved Jody Gerut for TGjr. Or was that just a silly silly dream?

[dew1679666265]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

I have no doubt he will overpay. But look on the bright side. When hendry is fired we can hire Depo and he'll rebuild the farm like he did for the dodgers.

 

Like Truffle asked, besides the Pierre trade, when has Hendry significantly overpaid in a trade?

[dew1679666265]

The clock is ticking and the Cubs have a brief window right now to get a Jake Peavy deal done. The Padres' horrible financial situation precipitated the White Sox talks, and has San Diego now talking again to the only two teams for which Peavy is interested in playing at the moment. He will waive his no-trade for the Cubs or the Dodgers, but you have to think that if the Padres can't move Peavy's contract very soon, perhaps within a week or two, they'll begin offloading salaries, and at that point they might as well keep Peavy. So it may be that Tom Ricketts has only a short time to give GM Jim Hendry the OK to make the Peavy deal.

 

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296123

 

To save or come close to saving the $11 MM that Peavy's contract costs this year, the team would have to move Brian Giles - who nixed a deal to the Red Sox when they were contending - and one of Adrian Gonzalez, Chris Young, Jody Gerut, Heath Bell, or Scott Hairston. That seems like a tricky thing for the Padres to do right now.

 

Link

 

Additionally moving Peavy will remove the albatross for the coming years, as has been noted on this board many times.

 

I don't think they have to shave Peavy's entire contract, I think they just need to drop down to or below $40 million in payroll. I'm not sure of the specifics, but Cot's has the 25-man roster at roughly $43 million right now, meaning they need to get $3 million off the books.

 

That doesn't change your scenario much, though. If Peavy stays, one of Adrian Gonzalez, Brian Giles or Chris Young will have to go. They could also put together a combination of Heath Bell, Scott Hairston, David Eckstein, Henry Blanco and Cliff Floyd. Three to four of those players would do as well.

[SouthSideRyan]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

I have no doubt he will overpay. But look on the bright side. When hendry is fired we can hire Depo and he'll rebuild the farm like he did for the dodgers.

 

You misspelled Logan White.

[Four and Twenty]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

I have no doubt he will overpay. But look on the bright side. When hendry is fired we can hire Depo and he'll rebuild the farm like he did for the dodgers.

 

You misspelled Logan White.

 

Thank you.

 

While I think DePodesta is a capable executive that has received undue flack over the years, this notion that he was the driving force behind the youthful success of the Dodgers is false. Billingsley (drafted in '03), Kemp (2003), Loney (2002), Broxton (2002), Martin (2002), and Stults (2002) were all drafted before DePodesta became general manager in February of 2004. The one piece DePodesta provided the current Dodger roster with is Andre Ethier, traded for Milton Bradley and Antonio Perez to the Oakland Athletics in December of 2005.

 

As SouthSideRyan pointed out, the man you should be looking to headhunt if your desire is to rebuild the Cubs farm system is Logan White.

 

http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/la/community/executives/white.html

 

The above link is a short biography of his career in case you're interested.

[Banedon]

The Cubs and Dodgers have been identified as two teams having interest, and Barry Rozner of the Arlington Heights (Ill.) Daily Herald suggested that those two teams have talked to the Padres recently. The suddenly struggling Cubs appear to be Peavy's most preferred place. But their current problems are all about offense.

 

One Cubs person said he doesn't see a Peavy deal around the corner. And Cubs GM Jim Hendry said by phone, "The rotation's been fine." Hendry, who like Towers is an experienced dealer, is confident that the murky status of their ownership won't prevent them from doing deals, though: "I'm optimistic we'll be able to conduct business."

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/05/27/padres.gonzalez/index.html

[mcgoobs]

The clock is ticking and the Cubs have a brief window right now to get a Jake Peavy deal done. The Padres' horrible financial situation precipitated the White Sox talks, and has San Diego now talking again to the only two teams for which Peavy is interested in playing at the moment. He will waive his no-trade for the Cubs or the Dodgers, but you have to think that if the Padres can't move Peavy's contract very soon, perhaps within a week or two, they'll begin offloading salaries, and at that point they might as well keep Peavy. So it may be that Tom Ricketts has only a short time to give GM Jim Hendry the OK to make the Peavy deal.

 

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296123

 

To save or come close to saving the $11 MM that Peavy's contract costs this year, the team would have to move Brian Giles - who nixed a deal to the Red Sox when they were contending - and one of Adrian Gonzalez, Chris Young, Jody Gerut, Heath Bell, or Scott Hairston. That seems like a tricky thing for the Padres to do right now.

 

Link

 

Additionally moving Peavy will remove the albatross for the coming years, as has been noted on this board many times.

 

I don't think they have to shave Peavy's entire contract, I think they just need to drop down to or below $40 million in payroll. I'm not sure of the specifics, but Cot's has the 25-man roster at roughly $43 million right now, meaning they need to get $3 million off the books.

 

That doesn't change your scenario much, though. If Peavy stays, one of Adrian Gonzalez, Brian Giles or Chris Young will have to go. They could also put together a combination of Heath Bell, Scott Hairston, David Eckstein, Henry Blanco and Cliff Floyd. Three to four of those players would do as well.

 

You're right. They could move enough of the lower-salaried players this year to get to $40 MM in payroll. At that point they would have $26 MM committed to next year and could try to fill in the spots on the roster not held by Peavy, Young and Gonzalez with cheap fillers.

[dew1679666265]

You're right. They could move enough of the lower-salaried players this year to get to $40 MM in payroll. At that point they would have $26 MM committed to next year and could try to fill in the spots on the roster not held by Peavy, Young and Gonzalez with cheap fillers.

 

The easiest path would still be to trade Peavy though. You're not getting much for the latter group of players and trading Gonzalez wouldn't be the best idea.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

I have no doubt he will overpay. But look on the bright side. When hendry is fired we can hire Depo and he'll rebuild the farm like he did for the dodgers.

 

Like Truffle asked, besides the Pierre trade, when has Hendry significantly overpaid in a trade?

 

Right now, Hendry overpaying or not doesnt enter into the equation. We could surely out together a package similar to the White Sox. Its a matter of getting the go ahead from the owner, and since theres no owner, thats easier said than done.

[dew1679666265]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

I have no doubt he will overpay. But look on the bright side. When hendry is fired we can hire Depo and he'll rebuild the farm like he did for the dodgers.

 

Like Truffle asked, besides the Pierre trade, when has Hendry significantly overpaid in a trade?

 

Right now, Hendry overpaying or not doesnt enter into the equation. We could surely out together a package similar to the White Sox. Its a matter of getting the go ahead from the owner, and since theres no owner, thats easier said than done.

 

Eh, I don't want to overpay much for Peavy. I'm already on the fence as to whether I think he's valuable enough to add. That said, the ownership will need to get more in place before we can do anything, I would think.

 

As for overpaying, Hendry is usually really good not overpaying in trades.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Anyone here thinks that Hendry is going to severely overpay for Peavy? On 2nd thought, is there anyone here that thinks he isn't?

 

I have no doubt he will overpay. But look on the bright side. When hendry is fired we can hire Depo and he'll rebuild the farm like he did for the dodgers.

 

Like Truffle asked, besides the Pierre trade, when has Hendry significantly overpaid in a trade?

 

Right now, Hendry overpaying or not doesnt enter into the equation. We could surely out together a package similar to the White Sox. Its a matter of getting the go ahead from the owner, and since theres no owner, thats easier said than done.

 

Eh, I don't want to overpay much for Peavy. I'm already on the fence as to whether I think he's valuable enough to add. That said, the ownership will need to get more in place before we can do anything, I would think.

 

As for overpaying, Hendry is usually really good not overpaying in trades.

 

Marshall, Cashner, Jackson and 2 PTBNL and maybe score Kouzmanoff in the process?