Changes may be on their way?

[17 Seconds]

Eff it. Just throw Fox at third. Right now the garbage we're running out there has been terrible on both sides of the ball from that position. It's at the point where I don't even care. I'm just sick of seeing the same garbage that we're rotating between 3b and 2b every day right now.

[Arnold Layne]

I'd like a change to be made in the manager's spot.

 

Panicky, senile, expensive.........blech.

 

I realize it could be worse (Ned Yost comes to mind) but I think Pineilla is overrated as a manager.

 

Fire Lou, moves Brenly into the booth.

 

Hendry needs to go before Lou does.

 

 

That is correct.

[sneakypower]

we're on a 90-win pace, not really sure the rationale or reasoning behind mass panic

 

 

Getting owned by the chief division rival which spent $55 million less than you tends to elecit these reactions.

 

We just don't have good mental makeup

this team just isn't built to win in late-May when the lights shine sort of bright

[Sammy Sofa]

we're on a 90-win pace, not really sure the rationale or reasoning behind mass panic

 

 

Getting owned by the chief division rival which spent $55 million less than you tends to elecit these reactions.

 

We just don't have good mental makeup

this team just isn't built to win in late-May when the lights shine sort of bright

 

THERE'S ONLY ONE MAY.

[NCCubFan]

Just throw Fox at third.

No.

[questionmarkgrace]

Yeah lee has been picking it up lately but it always seems like he gets his hits during a blow out or when no ones on base.

 

Id love to see Micah get more at bats. Every ball he hits is hammered. I agree with the rest of you too, Fox should be brought up for third and DH duties in the interleague play.

[NCCubFan]

I agree with the rest of you too, Fox should be brought up for third and DH duties in the interleague play.

Third, absolutely not. DH, I'd go for that.

[UMFan83]

I love how we have played at an 87 win pace this year despite injuries to our catcher, first baseman, third baseman (and best overall player), right fielder and ace pitcher, and really really slow starts from 4 starters in our lineup. And people still want to fire everyone including the manager/GM/hitting coach, bench Lee (who is finally picking it up), replacing last years ROY with a career minor leaguer, etc etc.

 

If this was late June, I'd be thinking about some changes. But the season isn't even 25% complete, and our heads are still above the water despite everything that's happened. It's not unheard of for teams to tread water in the first half and make a run in the second half. There is no doubt that collectively we are talented enough to do that very thing. So relax, let the professionals like Hendry identify the key issues that this team is facing, and then make the corresponding moves. I know most think that Jimbo's offseason was a complete failure (and I would mostly agree), but the guy has the resources to address the major problems we have. Making panic moves is not the answer at this time.

 

That's about as optimistic as I can be, so there :)

[17 Seconds]

I don't understand how Soriano to second is a better option that just bringing up Fox to play third.

 

Doesn't really matter though. Even if he tries it we know Lou will panic immediately. Soriano probably wouldn't make it past his first attempt to turn a double play.

[Coach C]

One thing or another, something better change, because I am not too pleased about being swept by the Cardinals....

[Little Slide Rooter]

I agree with the rest of you too, Fox should be brought up for third and DH duties in the interleague play.

Third, absolutely not. DH, I'd go for that.

 

I know Hoff deserves that DH job for IL, but the fact is, if we can bring up Fox to do it every game, and he impresses he could turn some heads and we can trade him for an infielder who isnt bad at baseball.

[dew1679666265]

I don't understand how Soriano to second is a better option that just bringing up Fox to play third.

 

Doesn't really matter though. Even if he tries it we know Lou will panic immediately. Soriano probably wouldn't make it past his first attempt to turn a double play.

 

Inserting Hoff in is much more of a sure thing to boost the offense than inserting Fox. As good as Fox has been in AAA, there's still the chance it doesn't translate to the majors. We know Hoff can hit major league pitching.

 

That doesn't mean I'm in favor of Soriano to 2B and Hoff to LF (I'm not in favor of Fox to 3B either), but I think that's probably Lou's thinking.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I don't understand how Soriano to second is a better option that just bringing up Fox to play third.

 

Doesn't really matter though. Even if he tries it we know Lou will panic immediately. Soriano probably wouldn't make it past his first attempt to turn a double play.

 

Inserting Hoff in is much more of a sure thing to boost the offense than inserting Fox. As good as Fox has been in AAA, there's still the chance it doesn't translate to the majors. We know Hoff can hit major league pitching.

 

That doesn't mean I'm in favor of Soriano to 2B and Hoff to LF (I'm not in favor of Fox to 3B either), but I think that's probably Lou's thinking.

 

Im pretty confident that Fox will be able to hit major league pitching. Theres a difference between a guy in AAA with a .325 avg and a 1.000 OPS and the kind of monster numbers Fox is putting up. As Ive stated before, id be more than willing to sacrifice Freel or Scales(granted, Id rather dump Miles than either, but that wont happen) to see what Fox can do. Worse case scenerio, hes a brutal fielder, he becomes a pinch hitter and we have 3 bad middle infielders to juggle instead of 4.

[dew1679666265]

Im pretty confident that Fox will be able to hit major league pitching. Theres a difference between a guy in AAA with a .325 avg and a 1.000 OPS and the kind of monster numbers Fox is putting up. As Ive stated before, id be more than willing to sacrifice Freel or Scales(granted, Id rather dump Miles than either, but that wont happen) to see what Fox can do. Worse case scenerio, hes a brutal fielder, he becomes a pinch hitter and we have 3 bad middle infielders to juggle instead of 4.

 

He's putting up awesome numbers, but that still doesn't guarantee success at the major league level. I'm not trying to argue that Fox will be unproductive, but Hoff is currently putting up a .929 OPS in the majors and is the better bet to produce now - which appears to be Lou's goal.

[Soul]

I found Lou's comment about Soriano to 2B to be interesting, but I get these visions of Sori botching all kinds of plays and making us look foolish. It's been a long time since he played there.

[jersey cubs fan]

I found Lou's comment about Soriano to 2B to be interesting, but I get these visions of Sori botching all kinds of plays and making us look foolish. It's been a long time since he played there.

 

When I saw him say it I took those comments as more of a joke than anything.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Im pretty confident that Fox will be able to hit major league pitching. Theres a difference between a guy in AAA with a .325 avg and a 1.000 OPS and the kind of monster numbers Fox is putting up. As Ive stated before, id be more than willing to sacrifice Freel or Scales(granted, Id rather dump Miles than either, but that wont happen) to see what Fox can do. Worse case scenerio, hes a brutal fielder, he becomes a pinch hitter and we have 3 bad middle infielders to juggle instead of 4.

 

He's putting up awesome numbers, but that still doesn't guarantee success at the major league level. I'm not trying to argue that Fox will be unproductive, but Hoff is currently putting up a .929 OPS in the majors and is the better bet to produce now - which appears to be Lou's goal.

 

I agree fully, but I just want to give him the chance if all were sacrificing is a player we really dont need anyway and if it comes down to it can be easily replaced.

[Old Style]

One thing or another, something better change, because I am not too pleased about being swept by the Cardinals....

A-soapdropping-men!

[gflore34]

One thing or another, something better change, because I am not too pleased about being swept by the Cardinals....

A-soapdropping-men!

 

Most especially when the Cardinals sans Pujols are a AAAA team but, I take it with grain of salt, come September or maybe even July when they're healthier and playing better that sweep will be returned and then some.

[Soul]

Right now I'm mostly just marveling at how bad our infield looks. How did this happen so soon?

 

We were trotting out Ramirez, Lee, DeRo most games last year. Theriot was the weak link, but covered to some degree by the good play of others.

 

Now it's Lee, then junk, junk, junk. And Lee -- hopefully the arrow is pointing up now, but we've discussed ad nauseum his struggles.

 

I mean, whoah. How quickly we've fallen.

[Little Slide Rooter]

One thing or another, something better change, because I am not too pleased about being swept by the Cardinals....

A-soapdropping-men!

 

Most especially when the Cardinals sans Pujols are a AAAA team but, I take it with grain of salt, come September or maybe even July when they're healthier and playing better that sweep will be returned and then some.

 

Agreed. Im sure we'll sweep someone we had no business sweeping later in the season. This is a mess to watch, but surely the offense will get cranking, and I have no reason to believe that at least the starting pitching wont stay consistant. It reminds me of those 2 stretches last year, 1 just after the ASB and the 1 in early september last year. Were down by 4 games roughly a quarter through the season, but thats like being down by 5 in a basketball game after the first quarter. Still, Id like at least a minor trade just to stir things up a bit.

[SouthSideRyan]

Right now I'm mostly just marveling at how bad our infield looks. How did this happen so soon?

 

We were trotting out Ramirez, Lee, DeRo most games last year. Theriot was the weak link, but covered to some degree by the good play of others.

 

Now it's Lee, then junk, junk, junk. And Lee -- hopefully the arrow is pointing up now, but we've discussed ad nauseum his struggles.

 

I mean, whoah. How quickly we've fallen.

 

Ryan Theriot(amazingly) has been pretty good this year.

[dew1679666265]

Im pretty confident that Fox will be able to hit major league pitching. Theres a difference between a guy in AAA with a .325 avg and a 1.000 OPS and the kind of monster numbers Fox is putting up. As Ive stated before, id be more than willing to sacrifice Freel or Scales(granted, Id rather dump Miles than either, but that wont happen) to see what Fox can do. Worse case scenerio, hes a brutal fielder, he becomes a pinch hitter and we have 3 bad middle infielders to juggle instead of 4.

 

He's putting up awesome numbers, but that still doesn't guarantee success at the major league level. I'm not trying to argue that Fox will be unproductive, but Hoff is currently putting up a .929 OPS in the majors and is the better bet to produce now - which appears to be Lou's goal.

 

I agree fully, but I just want to give him the chance if all were sacrificing is a player we really dont need anyway and if it comes down to it can be easily replaced.

 

I'd love to give him a chance, but he simply can't play defense. It's the same reason I don't like the idea of Soriano to 2B and Hoff to LF, great offense negated somewhat by awful defense.

 

I'd be fine with calling up Fox to come off the bench, but not to start.

[dew1679666265]

Right now I'm mostly just marveling at how bad our infield looks. How did this happen so soon?

 

We were trotting out Ramirez, Lee, DeRo most games last year. Theriot was the weak link, but covered to some degree by the good play of others.

 

Now it's Lee, then junk, junk, junk. And Lee -- hopefully the arrow is pointing up now, but we've discussed ad nauseum his struggles.

 

I mean, whoah. How quickly we've fallen.

 

Ryan Theriot(amazingly) has been pretty good this year.

 

.810 OPS and .273 EqA. If he does that all year, I'll be thrilled.

[Soul]

Right now I'm mostly just marveling at how bad our infield looks. How did this happen so soon?

 

We were trotting out Ramirez, Lee, DeRo most games last year. Theriot was the weak link, but covered to some degree by the good play of others.

 

Now it's Lee, then junk, junk, junk. And Lee -- hopefully the arrow is pointing up now, but we've discussed ad nauseum his struggles.

 

I mean, whoah. How quickly we've fallen.

 

Ryan Theriot(amazingly) has been pretty good this year.

 

.810 OPS and .273 EqA. If he does that all year, I'll be thrilled.

Me too, but if you told me at the beginning of the year we'd be relying on Theriot to be one of the best infielders on the team, I'd say uh-oh.