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Sources: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in '03

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Wilson, what's your opinion on players who used greenies?

 

They were just made illegal two years ago. Strong coffee pretty much did the same thing. Coffee has been used for years. I doubt any homerun records were dismantled because of greenies.

 

methamphetamines were made illegal 2 years ago? They've been illegal in the same way steroids were illegal in baseball from the moment they were criminalized in the US. And beacon of hope, Hank Aaron broke Ruth's record on the stuff. Truly a disgrace.

 

It's a double standard due to back in my day-ism, and the fact that Bonds is a miserable jerk while Aaron is a lovable hero.

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Wilson, what's your opinion on players who used greenies?

 

They were just made illegal two years ago. Strong coffee pretty much did the same thing. Coffee has been used for years. I doubt any homerun records were dismantled because of greenies.

 

methamphetamines were made illegal 2 years ago? They've been illegal in the same way steroids were illegal in baseball from the moment they were criminalized in the US. And beacon of hope, Hank Aaron broke Ruth's record on the stuff. Truly a disgrace.

 

It's a double standard due to back in my day-ism, and the fact that Bonds is a miserable jerk while Aaron is a lovable hero.

 

You mean amphetamines, not meth. I doubt many players are on meth. I meant illegal in the sense that they would be formally punished.

 

Do you really think Aaron hit so many home runs due to greenies?

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a little off-topic, but i'm more perturbed that Bonds was permitted to wear massive body armor and hang over the plate with impunity, than i am about him roiding up

 

I definitely do not like all that body armor he wore either. I think the Bonds-armor thing is symptomatic of a problem in baseball today, which is that pitchers have been essentially castrated from pitching inside for fear of automatic ejection. It'd also be nice to see the umps call the rulebook strike zone.

 

From the 2008 MLB Rule Book:

 

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/strikezone.jpg

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Once again, Jose Canseco is right

 

Of all people, who would have thought that Jose Canseco would be the voice of reason?

 

Damn, the cat's out of the bag - I've been exposed.

 

Well payed !! =D>

Yes, he was well payed for writing those kiss-and-tell books. :D
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Honestly there is no way to know what attributed to the home runs (yes it was most likely roids but when most of the league did them I don't see how it gave him more of an advantage). Bonds hit plenty before the years he was accused of using. Yes the 72 was an anomaly but so was Maris' 62

It wasn't just that he hit 73, it's that if pitchers hadn't started walking him all the time halfway through the season he'd have hit 100. Same for if he hadn't been walked a gazillion times the next couple of years.

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I take it all back. Everything. Hank was a user.

 

http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2007/02/hammerin_hank_a.html

 

Ha. It was the same in the NFL. Bill Curry was on Mike and Mike a couple of years ago, I guess when the heat was starting on Bonds, and he said he tried deca because so many guys on his team told him to. Bill played 40 years ago! He also said he put on 15 pounds of muscle in not time and his dad made him throw them away because it was freaking him out.

 

In my opinion, most people that are shocked that most pro athletes are on stuff are either

 

like the dude at Rick's that's shocked to find gambling in the back, or

not very familiar with what many high level athletes will do to get better, or

just enjoy the game and don't worry too much about what athletes do outside the game.

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a little off-topic, but i'm more perturbed that Bonds was permitted to wear massive body armor and hang over the plate with impunity, than i am about him roiding up

 

I definitely do not like all that body armor he wore either. I think the Bonds-armor thing is symptomatic of a problem in baseball today, which is that pitchers have been essentially castrated from pitching inside for fear of automatic ejection. It'd also be nice to see the umps call the rulebook strike zone.

 

 

I know I harp on this alot, but I'm convinced the strike zone they call is closer than fans think. It's a function of the TV camera angles. When you are shooting down on the batter from the CF scoreboard, everything is going to appear lower than it is. So the pitch at the top of the strike zone looks waist-high, and the pitch at the bottom looks well below.

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I know I harp on this alot, but I'm convinced the strike zone they call is closer than fans think. It's a function of the TV camera angles. When you are shooting down on the batter from the CF scoreboard, everything is going to appear lower than it is. So the pitch at the top of the strike zone looks waist-high, and the pitch at the bottom looks well below.

 

I always think pitches are too low, but when WGN uses the field level camera, the umps usually call it correctly. As OleMiss has shown, the strke zone extends to the bottom of the kneecap.

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From Foxsports:

 

Yanks need to dump A-Rod?

Now that A-Rod's pursuit looks as counterfeit as Bonds', they should do what's best for the organization: Cut him loose - no matter the cost. As difficult as it is to imagine eating $270 million, the Bombers will be making a statement, not just for the Yankee brand but for baseball as a whole. They will be applauded for it. The Yankees operate under two basic tenets: The relentless pursuit of championships and the fierce protection of their brand. If they are going to remain true to both, then they have no choice but to sever ties with Rodriguez. -- NY Daily News

 

Yeah, I can see the Yankees cutting their best player and owing him $270 million. What happens when the other 103 players' names get leaked?

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if they didn't do it with Giambi......

 

oh, right, Jason (sorta) apologized. maybe A-Rod should do that.

 

oh, right, Yankees fans/media hate A-Rod for absolutely no reason

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I have no idea what is to be gained by any of this

 

Bonds, ARod, Clemens, and McGwire won't make the HOF. That is certainly something to be gained.

 

You left Sammy off the list.

 

Steroids is a pox on all of our houses. It's doesn't matter if you're a Cubs fan, Yankees fan, Red Sox fan or Cardinals fan.

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I'm totally on board with the Yankees doing this. Let's get in on this and offer some cleaner, grittier, True Yankee [tm] type players for him.....Theriot, Reed Johnson and Luis Vizcaino should do the trick (assuming the Yankees eat 90% of his salary)
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A-Rod now admitted he used roids with the Rangers between 2001-2003...

 

Alex Rodriguez admitted to using steroids from 2001-03 while with the Rangers.

The interview with ESPN's Peter Gammons will go online later Monday. It's currently unclear whether Rodriguez admitted to using substances beyond what SI.com revealed. Going forward with this story was probably A-Rod's best option. There's no good reason to believe him if he says he suddenly decided to stop cheating upon joining the Yankees in 2004, but he has never failed another test.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3894847

 

His voice shaking at times, Alex Rodriguez met head-on allegations that he tested positive for steroids six years ago, telling ESPN on Monday that he did take performance-enhancing drugs while playing for the Texas Rangers during a three-year period beginning in 2001.

 

"When I arrived in Texas in 2001, I felt an enormous amount of pressure. I needed to perform, and perform at a high level every day," Rodriguez told ESPN's Peter Gammons in an interview in Miami Beach, Fla. "Back then, [baseball] was a different culture. It was very loose. I was young, I was stupid, I was naïve. I wanted to prove to everyone I was worth being one of the greatest players of all time.

 

"I did take a banned substance. For that, I'm very sorry and deeply regretful."

 

Rodriguez's admission comes 48 hours after Sports Illustrated reported that Rodriguez was on a list of 104 players who tested positive for banned substances in 2003, the year when Major League Baseball conducted survey tests to see if mandatory, random drug-testing was needed in the sport.

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wow, didnt see that coming.

 

good for him for coming clean.

 

Yeah, now he comes clean. After he got caught.

 

That's true, but it's more than most of them do.

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A-Rod now admitted he used roids with the Rangers between 2001-2003...

 

Alex Rodriguez admitted to using steroids from 2001-03 while with the Rangers.

The interview with ESPN's Peter Gammons will go online later Monday. It's currently unclear whether Rodriguez admitted to using substances beyond what SI.com revealed. Going forward with this story was probably A-Rod's best option. There's no good reason to believe him if he says he suddenly decided to stop cheating upon joining the Yankees in 2004, but he has never failed another test.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3894847

 

His voice shaking at times, Alex Rodriguez met head-on allegations that he tested positive for steroids six years ago, telling ESPN on Monday that he did take performance-enhancing drugs while playing for the Texas Rangers during a three-year period beginning in 2001.

 

"When I arrived in Texas in 2001, I felt an enormous amount of pressure. I needed to perform, and perform at a high level every day," Rodriguez told ESPN's Peter Gammons in an interview in Miami Beach, Fla. "Back then, [baseball] was a different culture. It was very loose. I was young, I was stupid, I was naïve. I wanted to prove to everyone I was worth being one of the greatest players of all time.

 

"I did take a banned substance. For that, I'm very sorry and deeply regretful."

 

Rodriguez's admission comes 48 hours after Sports Illustrated reported that Rodriguez was on a list of 104 players who tested positive for banned substances in 2003, the year when Major League Baseball conducted survey tests to see if mandatory, random drug-testing was needed in the sport.

OK, so now what? Will MLB punish him at all???

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