Derosa to Indians for Jeff Stevens, Chris Archer, John Gaub

[dew1679666265]

I think about 80% of the posts in transactions over the last 72 hours are from dextermorgan or dew. Every time I open up a thread it is like groundhog's day.

 

Would you prefer that I pull a Vance and post in only emoticons for a while? :wink:

 

I'm actually probably going to tone it down a bit. Since the Titans clinched the #1 seed a few weeks ago and the Vols didn't have a bowl game, I've had to expend my energy into Hendry's recent bad moves.

 

Now, though, I'll be able to fret and worry about Saturday's playoff game for the Titans - which will distract me from the Transactions thread for a while. :D

Before you go I'm hoping you could clarify how many games you think Bradley will miss. Haven't seen you comment on that much. ;)

 

Nah, I'm going to keep that opinion under wraps for now. :ninja:

[dew1679666265]

I haven't heard of him "figuring anything out" or making any tangible changes to his swing.

 

He certainly hasn't figured out how to take a friggin' walk yet

 

But he can hit a single 30% of the time he steps to the plate . . .

 

Touché

 

 

Haha! Victory is mine!

 

 

(If I knew how to post pictures, I'd post an image of Stewie. But I can't, so pretend there's one here)

 

In the post window, click the "Img" button and enter the image link between (img) and (/img), just like you would do with a URL.

 

http://www.thirdwayblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/stewie.jpg

 

Sorry to drag this up from three pages back, but I just saw it now.

 

Thanks Laurens!

[CUBZ99]

I think about 80% of the posts in transactions over the last 72 hours are from dextermorgan or dew. Every time I open up a thread it is like groundhog's day.

 

Would you prefer that I pull a Vance and post in only emoticons for a while? :wink:

 

I'm actually probably going to tone it down a bit. Since the Titans clinched the #1 seed a few weeks ago and the Vols didn't have a bowl game, I've had to expend my energy into Hendry's recent bad moves.

 

Now, though, I'll be able to fret and worry about Saturday's playoff game for the Titans - which will distract me from the Transactions thread for a while. :D

Before you go I'm hoping you could clarify how many games you think Bradley will miss. Haven't seen you comment on that much. ;)

 

Nah, I'm going to keep that opinion under wraps for now. :ninja:

 

Just to make this clear....Do you like this trade?

[dew1679666265]

I think about 80% of the posts in transactions over the last 72 hours are from dextermorgan or dew. Every time I open up a thread it is like groundhog's day.

 

Would you prefer that I pull a Vance and post in only emoticons for a while? :wink:

 

I'm actually probably going to tone it down a bit. Since the Titans clinched the #1 seed a few weeks ago and the Vols didn't have a bowl game, I've had to expend my energy into Hendry's recent bad moves.

 

Now, though, I'll be able to fret and worry about Saturday's playoff game for the Titans - which will distract me from the Transactions thread for a while. :D

Before you go I'm hoping you could clarify how many games you think Bradley will miss. Haven't seen you comment on that much. ;)

 

Nah, I'm going to keep that opinion under wraps for now. :ninja:

 

Just to make this clear....Do you like this trade?

 

:-$

[cubswin2009]

I haven't heard of him "figuring anything out" or making any tangible changes to his swing.

 

He certainly hasn't figured out how to take a friggin' walk yet

 

But he can hit a single 30% of the time he steps to the plate . . .

 

Touché

 

 

Haha! Victory is mine!

 

 

(If I knew how to post pictures, I'd post an image of Stewie. But I can't, so pretend there's one here)

 

In the post window, click the "Img" button and enter the image link between (img) and (/img), just like you would do with a URL.

 

http://www.thirdwayblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/stewie.jpg

 

Sorry to drag this up from three pages back, but I just saw it now.

 

Thanks Laurens!

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n298/caconfidential/victoryismine.jpg

[dew1679666265]

I haven't heard of him "figuring anything out" or making any tangible changes to his swing.

 

He certainly hasn't figured out how to take a friggin' walk yet

 

But he can hit a single 30% of the time he steps to the plate . . .

 

Touché

 

 

Haha! Victory is mine!

 

 

(If I knew how to post pictures, I'd post an image of Stewie. But I can't, so pretend there's one here)

 

In the post window, click the "Img" button and enter the image link between (img) and (/img), just like you would do with a URL.

 

http://www.thirdwayblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/stewie.jpg

 

Sorry to drag this up from three pages back, but I just saw it now.

 

Thanks Laurens!

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n298/caconfidential/victoryismine.jpg

 

=D> Heck yea.

[BCVM22]

Have we heard this yet? Kap interviews DeRo after the trade

 

http://caster.wgnradio.com/uncut/sportscentraluncut-090102.mp3

 

He sounds legitimately disappointed to no longer be a Cub. Godspeed, DeRo.

[SABR Gamer]

Screw this trade, I really hate this move. I want DeRo back, screw you Hendry. I guess how much I hate this just hit me, I feel sick to my stomach not having Mark on the ball club anymore. Good luck Mark, we love you and you will be missed.

[Gingerballs Lives]

Screw this trade, I really hate this move. I want DeRo back, screw you Hendry. I guess how much I hate this just hit me, I feel sick to my stomach not having Mark on the ball club anymore. Good luck Mark, we love you and you will be missed.

 

 

Crazy-talk. The acquisitions of Aaron Miles and Kevin Gregg are clearly going to be able to put the Cubs over the playoff hump.

 

Oh. That and 90 games of Milton Bradley.

 

*sticks head in oven*

[UMFan83]

Callis:

 

Dave (Buffalo, NY): hi Jim- was trading Jeff Stevens a bad move by the Indians for a short term DeRosa?

 

SportsNation Jim Callis : Not at all, though Stevens will be useful out of the pen this year. The Indians got DeRosa cheap. I think the Cubs underestimated how much they'll miss a guy who can play 2B, 3B, LF and RF and hit both LHP and RHP. Aaron Miles? Are you kidding me?

[cubsfan26]

Yet another person that forgets Mike Fontenot is on the roster. Aaron Miles might take 150 AB's of DeRosa AB's and most of those will likely be against LH pitching. The rest of DeRosa AB's will be made up by Bradley, Hoffpauir, Johnson, and a more healthy Soriano in 09. Aaron Miles is going to take more AB's from Ronny Cedeno then anybody. But I guess it takes up too research for these people to realize this. Chris Deluca also wrote a stupid story today about how Miles isn't a everyday player and will be at 2b.(*,) Edited January 8, 2009 by cubsfan26

[jersey cubs fan]

Yet another memeber of the media that forgets Mike Fontenot is on the roster.

 

How so? They got rid of a valuable versatile bat and replaced the versatility with Aaron Miles. What he said gave no indication that he forgot about Fontenot.

[YearofDaCubs]

Yet another person that forgets Mike Fontenot is on the roster. Aaron Miles might take 150 AB's of DeRosa AB's and most of those will likely be against LH pitching. The rest of DeRosa AB's will be made up by Bradley, Hoffpauir, Johnson, and a more healthy Soriano in 09. Aaron Miles is going to take more AB's from Ronny Cedeno then anybody. But I guess it takes up too research for these people to realize this. Chris Deluca also wrote a stupid story today about how Miles isn't a everyday player and will be at 2b.(*,)

Fontenot is no DeRosa, period.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yet another person that forgets Mike Fontenot is on the roster. Aaron Miles might take 150 AB's of DeRosa AB's and most of those will likely be against LH pitching. The rest of DeRosa AB's will be made up by Bradley, Hoffpauir, Johnson, and a more healthy Soriano in 09. Aaron Miles is going to take more AB's from Ronny Cedeno then anybody. But I guess it takes up too research for these people to realize this. Chris Deluca also wrote a stupid story today about how Miles isn't a everyday player and will be at 2b.(*,)

 

Hoff stands little to no chance of making the team. You can't say Bradley is taking Fontenot at bats when he will probably struggle to take over the Edmonds total. And Johnson isn't going to be taking up Fontenot at bats either. Miles is going to get a lot more than 150 AB's, and trying to account for who they came from is pretty ridiculous. The Cubs had DeRosa and Fontenot and now they have Miles and Fontenot. It's a significant downgrade no matter what you want to pretend.

[cubsfan26]

Yet another memeber of the media that forgets Mike Fontenot is on the roster.

 

How so? They got rid of a valuable versatile bat and replaced the versatility with Aaron Miles. What he said gave no indication that he forgot about Fontenot.

 

 

Because most of DeRosa AB's are going to go to Fontenot, Bradley, Hoffpauir, Johnson and Soriano. He makes it sound like were replacing DeRosa with Aaron Miles. If you put it that way then that does sound terrible. If he realized how good Fontenot was, and that he will be getting most of the playing time. He would realize that losing DeRosa isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be. Seriously Mike Fontenot has hit 300/379/853 in 404 AB's against RH pitching the last two years. Even if he's not that good those stats tell me he's likely to be pretty good still.

[jersey cubs fan]

Yet another memeber of the media that forgets Mike Fontenot is on the roster.

 

How so? They got rid of a valuable versatile bat and replaced the versatility with Aaron Miles. What he said gave no indication that he forgot about Fontenot.

 

 

Because most of DeRosa AB's are going to go to Fontenot, Bradley, Hoffpauir, Johnson and Soriano. He makes it sound like were replacing DeRosa with Aaron Miles.

 

They are replacing DeRosa with Miles. Accounting for who is taking whose at bats is pointless. Miles will get a lot. If he's not the starter at 2b, he's the primary backup at 2B, SS and 3B.

 

And besides, Hoffpauir and Johnson aren't any good either, so why is it better if they get those AB's?

[Keeper]

He would realize that losing DeRosa isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be.

 

You'll be singing a different tune when Bradley, Soriano, and Ramirez all go on the DL.

[cubsfan26]

Hoff stands little to no chance of making the team

 

Ok? Do you really seriously think Lou will have a bench with no guys that can hit the ball out of the park. Plus if Hoffpauir isn't on the team who's our back up 1b? If anything that tells me Hoffpauir has a pretty good chance to make the team. Unless of course we still add someone this offseason.

 

 

And Johnson isn't going to be taking up Fontenot at bats either. Miles is going to get a lot more than 150 AB's, and trying to account for who they came from is pretty ridiculous. The Cubs had DeRosa and Fontenot and now they have Miles and Fontenot. It's a significant downgrade no matter what you want to pretend

 

Miles will be getting more then 150 AB's, but the other 150-200 will be taken from Ronny Cedeno. But I don't think you realize that Fontenot only got the amount of AB's he did last year, due to Soriano missing so many games with the freak HBP injury. That made DeRosa have 100-125 more AB's in the outfield then he would normally have. Put it this way, if Fontenot gets 400 AB's at 2b, were is Miles gonna get all his AB's at? Unless Miles is backing up at SS/3b, pinch hitting, so he's pretty much taking most of Cedeno AB's. DeRosa being able to play outfield and replace Soriano for a long peroid of time was the only reason why Fontenot got so many AB's last year. So it's not ridiculous, it's common sense to know that Fontenot and our outfielders will be taking up most of the AB's next year. Thats unless the Cubs decide to start using Miles in the outfield, but I hope there not that stupid.

[cubsfan26]

You'll be singing a different tune when Bradley, Soriano, and Ramirez all go on the DL.

 

If that happens, not even the great Mark DeRosa could save us.

 

 

And besides, Hoffpauir and Johnson aren't any good either, so why is it better if they get those AB's?

 

Last seasons numbers would disagree with you. But Johnson wouldn't really get anymore AB's. Hoffpauir might get 60-70 more AB's, depending on Bradleys health. But Soriano playing and having 579-600 plus AB's makes up for at least half of Fontenot AB's in 2008. So like I said people are making this move out to be much worse then it really is.

[cubsfan26]

Yet another person that forgets Mike Fontenot is on the roster. Aaron Miles might take 150 AB's of DeRosa AB's and most of those will likely be against LH pitching. The rest of DeRosa AB's will be made up by Bradley, Hoffpauir, Johnson, and a more healthy Soriano in 09. Aaron Miles is going to take more AB's from Ronny Cedeno then anybody. But I guess it takes up too research for these people to realize this. Chris Deluca also wrote a stupid story today about how Miles isn't a everyday player and will be at 2b.(*,)

Fontenot is no DeRosa, period.

 

Fontenot doesn't have to be DeRosa, he just needs to keep hitting like he has against RH pitching for another 150 AB's or so.

[SweetZombieJesus]

He would realize that losing DeRosa isn't as bad as the media is making it out to be.

 

You'll be singing a different tune when Bradley, Soriano, and Ramirez all go on the DL.

 

You are right. I never thought of that. Between those injuries, the guaranteed injuries to every pitcher on the roster and the additions of Khalil Greene to the cards my thoughts about a 50 win season are a pipe dream. The cubs would be lucky to you know win 10 games. HENDRY Sox OMG!!!

[Keeper]

Yes, that's exactly what I said. Minus all the hyperbole... :roll:

 

Invariably, it will happen. When you have a bunch of injury-prone players, at some point during the regular season it all comes to a head. That's when you NEED a guy like Mark DeRosa.

[cubsfan26]

Yes, that's exactly what I said. Minus all the hyperbole... :roll:

 

Invariably, it will happen. When you have a bunch of injury-prone players, at some point during the regular season it all comes to a head. That's when you NEED a guy like Mark DeRosa.

 

 

I don't think you realize he's making fun of you. If we have 5-7 star players hit the DL next year, it's gonna take alot more then Mark DeRosa to make things better. Especially when you consider DeRosa is most likely gonna have a drop off in production. But this team has enough depth to make up for injuries. Just as long as were not really unlucky, but very few teams are.

[Keeper]

I don't think you know what the word "hyperbole" means.

[17 Seconds]

What you need to realize is that we don't even need all those injuries to make the loss of DeRosa. The only one that has to happen is Bradley, and it's pretty much a sure thing with him. That's when losing DeRosa will hurt. You would have essentially been replacing Bradley with Fontenot in the lineup (with DeRosa moving to right) when Bradley was out. Now you're giving those at-bats to Johnson against RHP, Fukudome against LHP, Gathright, Miles, or maybe Hoffpauir. That's a pretty big downgrade