Re: College Football - Bowl Discussion

[dew1679666265]

Tennessee will likely name Jim Chaney Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line Coach in the next few days.

 

Yo, Purdue peeps... what's the good word on Chaney? In his 4 years as recruiting coordinator at Purdue, they finished int he Top 10 in Rivals recruting rankings every year. Any other insight on him?

 

If he has any say on how the offense is run they will never get out of the dumps. Chaney was ungodly awful as an OC at Purdue. If you look at just straight statistics you might think he was a pretty good OC but when he was around we had dominant offenses every year because we had great players. My family (some Purdue fans for over 80 years) used to scream and cuss almost every game over Chaney's play calling. If something works he will start doing something else to try and catch the defense off guard. For instance in games that Purdue would have almost 300 yards passing by halftime Chaney would have Purdue come out for the second half running. We used to play a QB1 style game when watching the games to see who could predict the play Purdue was about to run. No joke I was right about 70-75% of the time (had to name play type and primary direction). If I can guess what Chaney has called that much imagine what opposing defenses can do. It just happened that Tiller's spread offense makes it so 50% of the time you can't do anything to stop the offense as long as you have a good QB. Purdue had great QB's when Chaney was here so the offense succeeded in spite of him. In all seriousness I'm pretty sure I could have done better than Chaney as Purdue's OC.

 

This doesn't sound good at all.

[dew1679666265]

Tennessee will likely name Jim Chaney Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line Coach in the next few days.

 

Yo, Purdue peeps... what's the good word on Chaney? In his 4 years as recruiting coordinator at Purdue, they finished int he Top 10 in Rivals recruting rankings every year. Any other insight on him?

 

This is all very discouraging news. I'm hoping more than ever that Lane calls his own plays.

 

Ed Orgeron to LSU is nearly done, according to LSU's Rivals site.

 

If both he and Chavis sign their reported contracts, O (the DL coach) will make more than Chavis (the D Coordinator).

 

Heard this on the radio this morning and was hoping it wasn't true.

[hawkeyecub]

Tennessee will likely name Jim Chaney Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line Coach in the next few days.

 

Yo, Purdue peeps... what's the good word on Chaney? In his 4 years as recruiting coordinator at Purdue, they finished int he Top 10 in Rivals recruting rankings every year. Any other insight on him?

 

If he has any say on how the offense is run they will never get out of the dumps. Chaney was ungodly awful as an OC at Purdue. If you look at just straight statistics you might think he was a pretty good OC but when he was around we had dominant offenses every year because we had great players. My family (some Purdue fans for over 80 years) used to scream and cuss almost every game over Chaney's play calling. If something works he will start doing something else to try and catch the defense off guard. For instance in games that Purdue would have almost 300 yards passing by halftime Chaney would have Purdue come out for the second half running. We used to play a QB1 style game when watching the games to see who could predict the play Purdue was about to run. No joke I was right about 70-75% of the time (had to name play type and primary direction). If I can guess what Chaney has called that much imagine what opposing defenses can do. It just happened that Tiller's spread offense makes it so 50% of the time you can't do anything to stop the offense as long as you have a good QB. Purdue had great QB's when Chaney was here so the offense succeeded in spite of him. In all seriousness I'm pretty sure I could have done better than Chaney as Purdue's OC.

 

This doesn't sound good at all.

 

Anytime someone starts telling you they can predict the play before it happens and including that in their rant, ignore everything. When they start saying they seriously could have done a better job as OC, tune them out forever.

 

Go to most any message board of a non top 5 team and you'll find meatballs saying the same thing about their offensive coordinator. It's the cool and easy thing to do. 95% of the time they're wrong and vastly underestimate the complexity of what's going on and don't realize that OC's are not just calling a play on 2nd and 8 to be successful on 2nd and 8. They have a gameplan, they're doing things for a reason and they're trying to set up certain actions for future plays.

[Mephistopheles]

Not that I am gonna be premature or anything...but early returns on the Big XII aren't so good. Two games and two lackluster performances. It appears as if no one playing defense in the Big XII wasn't just a cliche thing. It might actually be true. Oregon's defense was relatively poor compared to the Pac 10. After a fast start Oklahoma State couldn't do much. Sure they gained 469 yards, but that was on a whopping EIGHTY EIGHT plays, about 20 more than their season average. Oregon's offense put up 565 and averaged about 8 yards per play. After completing 67 percent of his passes in the season, he was barely over 50 percent against Oregon.

 

Missouri was a disaster on offense for most of the night against a middle of the pack Northwestern defense (in the Big Ten). Mizzou only gained 311 yards on a 70-something plays and averaged less than five yards per play after averaging 7 or so in the season. They had the same drop off in production as Oklahoma State. It wasn't a slight drop either, they both fell off a cliff. Northwestern's passing offense on the other hand had their production skyrocket against a Big XII defense. Bacher went 27 of 43 for 304 yards and 3 TDs to just 1 pick after only throwing 11 TDs all season long. That's your typical Big XII production from the passing game. Chase Daniel, on the other hand, completed 73.2% of his passes versus Big XII defenses this season. He finished 27 of 44 with 200 yards. It's the second season in a row he basically didn't show up in the bowl game against a decent defense from another BCS conference.

 

It's only two games, but early returns aren't very good.

[dew1679666265]

Tennessee will likely name Jim Chaney Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line Coach in the next few days.

 

Yo, Purdue peeps... what's the good word on Chaney? In his 4 years as recruiting coordinator at Purdue, they finished int he Top 10 in Rivals recruting rankings every year. Any other insight on him?

 

If he has any say on how the offense is run they will never get out of the dumps. Chaney was ungodly awful as an OC at Purdue. If you look at just straight statistics you might think he was a pretty good OC but when he was around we had dominant offenses every year because we had great players. My family (some Purdue fans for over 80 years) used to scream and cuss almost every game over Chaney's play calling. If something works he will start doing something else to try and catch the defense off guard. For instance in games that Purdue would have almost 300 yards passing by halftime Chaney would have Purdue come out for the second half running. We used to play a QB1 style game when watching the games to see who could predict the play Purdue was about to run. No joke I was right about 70-75% of the time (had to name play type and primary direction). If I can guess what Chaney has called that much imagine what opposing defenses can do. It just happened that Tiller's spread offense makes it so 50% of the time you can't do anything to stop the offense as long as you have a good QB. Purdue had great QB's when Chaney was here so the offense succeeded in spite of him. In all seriousness I'm pretty sure I could have done better than Chaney as Purdue's OC.

 

This doesn't sound good at all.

 

Anytime someone starts telling you they can predict the play before it happens and including that in their rant, ignore everything. When they start saying they seriously could have done a better job as OC, tune them out forever.

 

Go to most any message board of a non top 5 team and you'll find meatballs saying the same thing about their offensive coordinator. It's the cool and easy thing to do. 95% of the time they're wrong and vastly underestimate the complexity of what's going on and don't realize that OC's are not just calling a play on 2nd and 8 to be successful on 2nd and 8. They have a gameplan, they're doing things for a reason and they're trying to set up certain actions for future plays.

 

Yeah, I didn't put much stock into knowing the play and being a better OC. But he still knows more about Chaney than I do (I've never heard of him before) so this being the first tidbit of opinion on him is discouraging.

 

People here in Tennessee were saying the same thing about Tennessee's 07 offense that put up 35 points a game.

[Mephistopheles]

Updated Top 30

 

1. 83.92 1 Oklahoma

2. 82.53 2 Florida

3. 79.87 3 Texas

4. 78.89 4 Southern Cal

5. 74.79 5 Penn State

6. 74.65 6 Texas Tech

7. 71.67 7 Utah

8. 69.99 10 TCU

9. 69.70 9 Alabama

10. 68.98 8 Ohio State

11. 67.83 12 Missouri

12. 67.21 15 Florida St

13. 67.19 11 Boise St

14. 67.12 17 Oregon

15. 66.44 14 Georgia Tech

16. 65.68 13 Oklahoma St

17. 65.34 19 California

18. 65.08 16 Georgia

19. 63.94 20 Oregon St

20. 63.01 18 North Carolina

21. 62.81 22 Boston College

22. 62.58 23 Virginia Tech

23. 62.52 25 Pittsburgh

24. 62.45 24 Mississippi

25. 62.08 21 Iowa

 

Two things to note are. Despite staying ahead of Florida by the same amount, give or take a few fractions of a point, Oklahoma has fallen behind Florida in the measure that uses margin of victory. In other words Oklahoma is only ahead of Florida because of their schedule not because of their dominance. This is actually true for USC and Texas as well.

 

New Conference Ratings:

New - Old

59.92 60.01 Big 12

59.79 59.69 ACC

56.64 56.47 SEC

55.01 55.81 Big Ten

54.29 52.97 PAC 10

54.24 53.30 Big East

51.39 51.13 MWC

41.76 42.56 WAC

41.67 41.60 IND

41.36 40.70 CUSA

40.42 41.92 MAC

34.39 34.13 Sun Belt

 

The top 10 by points:

87.02 Florida

86.98 Oklahoma

83.66 Southern Cal

82.03 Texas

78.51 Penn State

 

The difference of .04 between Florida and Oklahoma is by far the closest bowl matchup

[Mephistopheles]

The Village People still exist?

[SpongeWorthy]

The Village People still exist?

 

It's El Paso.

[CubbieBum]

Tennessee will likely name Jim Chaney Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line Coach in the next few days.

 

Yo, Purdue peeps... what's the good word on Chaney? In his 4 years as recruiting coordinator at Purdue, they finished int he Top 10 in Rivals recruting rankings every year. Any other insight on him?

 

If he has any say on how the offense is run they will never get out of the dumps. Chaney was ungodly awful as an OC at Purdue. If you look at just straight statistics you might think he was a pretty good OC but when he was around we had dominant offenses every year because we had great players. My family (some Purdue fans for over 80 years) used to scream and cuss almost every game over Chaney's play calling. If something works he will start doing something else to try and catch the defense off guard. For instance in games that Purdue would have almost 300 yards passing by halftime Chaney would have Purdue come out for the second half running. We used to play a QB1 style game when watching the games to see who could predict the play Purdue was about to run. No joke I was right about 70-75% of the time (had to name play type and primary direction). If I can guess what Chaney has called that much imagine what opposing defenses can do. It just happened that Tiller's spread offense makes it so 50% of the time you can't do anything to stop the offense as long as you have a good QB. Purdue had great QB's when Chaney was here so the offense succeeded in spite of him. In all seriousness I'm pretty sure I could have done better than Chaney as Purdue's OC.

 

This doesn't sound good at all.

 

Anytime someone starts telling you they can predict the play before it happens and including that in their rant, ignore everything. When they start saying they seriously could have done a better job as OC, tune them out forever.

 

Go to most any message board of a non top 5 team and you'll find meatballs saying the same thing about their offensive coordinator. It's the cool and easy thing to do. 95% of the time they're wrong and vastly underestimate the complexity of what's going on and don't realize that OC's are not just calling a play on 2nd and 8 to be successful on 2nd and 8. They have a gameplan, they're doing things for a reason and they're trying to set up certain actions for future plays.

 

Well since I grew up going to the games and make my living studying games I think I know what I'm talking about when it comes to Purdue football. The me being a better OC part was mainly a joke. Chaney is a God awful OC who literally cost us a couple bowl wins. An example is a team that passes for 3,500 yards in the regular season comes into their bowl game running 80% of the time, get down big, start passing and make a comeback. Purdue did that two or three straight years with Chaney as the OC.

[SpongeWorthy]

This is quite the defensive struggle.

[Mephistopheles]

BC versus Vandy isn't offering much more. It's 7-6 in the third.

[Mephistopheles]

and tonight we have LSU vs Georgia Tech. Who throws more TD passes for Georgia Tech. Jarrett Lee or Josh Nesbitt.

[SpongeWorthy]

The Beavers are going to be punished for not putting Pitt away when they had a chance.

[Mephistopheles]

3rd and 9 with less than three minutes left and they run McCoy to lose the game.

[Mephistopheles]

Wow, he nearly made that 58 yard field goal.

[SpongeWorthy]

Nice job Wanny.

[Mephistopheles]

Vandy is up 13-7 now on BC.

[SpongeWorthy]

The Pac 10 is better than the NFC West.

 

CANT TOUCH THIS CONFERENCE YEAH.

[bukie]

3-0 final in a bowl game. Wow.

[SpongeWorthy]

Now to watch the BC/Vandy game and listen to Bob Davie expound on the finer points of "footbaw."

[ConstableRabbit]

Not that I am gonna be premature or anything...but early returns on the Big XII aren't so good. Two games and two lackluster performances. It appears as if no one playing defense in the Big XII wasn't just a cliche thing. It might actually be true. Oregon's defense was relatively poor compared to the Pac 10. After a fast start Oklahoma State couldn't do much. Sure they gained 469 yards, but that was on a whopping EIGHTY EIGHT plays, about 20 more than their season average. Oregon's offense put up 565 and averaged about 8 yards per play. After completing 67 percent of his passes in the season, he was barely over 50 percent against Oregon.

 

Missouri was a disaster on offense for most of the night against a middle of the pack Northwestern defense (in the Big Ten). Mizzou only gained 311 yards on a 70-something plays and averaged less than five yards per play after averaging 7 or so in the season. They had the same drop off in production as Oklahoma State. It wasn't a slight drop either, they both fell off a cliff. Northwestern's passing offense on the other hand had their production skyrocket against a Big XII defense. Bacher went 27 of 43 for 304 yards and 3 TDs to just 1 pick after only throwing 11 TDs all season long. That's your typical Big XII production from the passing game. Chase Daniel, on the other hand, completed 73.2% of his passes versus Big XII defenses this season. He finished 27 of 44 with 200 yards. It's the second season in a row he basically didn't show up in the bowl game against a decent defense from another BCS conference.

 

It's only two games, but early returns aren't very good.

In many ways, yes, but I think it's worth noting that they led the big10 in sacks this season. They only sacked Daniel once or twice, but the pressure was there and he had to scramble a lot.

[Hosak8]

Tennessee will likely name Jim Chaney Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line Coach in the next few days.

 

Yo, Purdue peeps... what's the good word on Chaney? In his 4 years as recruiting coordinator at Purdue, they finished int he Top 10 in Rivals recruting rankings every year. Any other insight on him?

 

This is all very discouraging news. I'm hoping more than ever that Lane calls his own plays.

 

Ed Orgeron to LSU is nearly done, according to LSU's Rivals site.

 

If both he and Chavis sign their reported contracts, O (the DL coach) will make more than Chavis (the D Coordinator).

 

Heard this on the radio this morning and was hoping it wasn't true.

 

Disregard the Orgeron info. He's a Vol.

 

Lane

Chaney

Reaves

Kregg

Drayton (?)

 

Kiffin

Orgeron

Lake(?)

 

It's taking shape.

[SpongeWorthy]

What is BC doing?

[SpongeWorthy]

Vandy's going to win.

 

This BC quarterback has some of the worst throwing mechanics I've seen for a D1 quarterback.

[imb]

if kevin wilson goes elsewhere in the offseason, i really hope we look into cubbiebum as our OC