Re: College Football - Bowl Discussion

[imb]

You should spend a few more pages breathlessly explaining why Big XII defensive coordinators are actually genuises and doing a great job scheming against OU.

 

lol, you are so bad at this

 

first, i never said that

 

secondly, why would anyone say that when ou averaged 50+ points a game?

 

thirdly, when you're completely clueless about what you're trying to talk about, just making things up makes you look even worse.

 

out of all the knowledge-lacking football fans on here, you're near the bottom

[SouthSideRyan]

lol usc didn't win the national title what a joke program

 

If you're gonna cheat, you should get some results beyond a home game against either the 2nd place Big Ten team or the 1st place Big Ten team in a down year every single year.(That was a horribly structured sentence)

 

Iowa in 2002, Michigan in 2003 and 2006, Illinois in 2007, Ohio State in 2008, Penn State in 2008...

 

The poor Big 10 just is SOOO UNLUCKY that USC keeps catching them when they're down :roll:

 

You're grasping at straws.

 

That's what we call missing the point. USC plays a home game every years on January 1st because they're too undisciplined to try against teams they should beat the crap out of.

 

Their opponents in these games are 2nd place Big Ten teams if the Big Ten is good(becuase the 1st place team goes to the title game) or a 1st place Big Ten team when the conference is down.

[SpongeWorthy]

How do you get all that sand out of there?

[SouthSideRyan]

Haha, I'm convinced half these people are 14 years old.

[SpongeWorthy]

lol usc didn't win the national title what a joke program

 

If you're gonna cheat, you should get some results beyond a home game against either the 2nd place Big Ten team or the 1st place Big Ten team in a down year every single year.(That was a horribly structured sentence)

 

Iowa in 2002, Michigan in 2003 and 2006, Illinois in 2007, Ohio State in 2008, Penn State in 2008...

 

The poor Big 10 just is SOOO UNLUCKY that USC keeps catching them when they're down :roll:

 

You're grasping at straws.

 

That's what we call missing the point. USC plays a home game every years on January 1st because they're too undisciplined to try against teams they should beat the crap out of.

 

Their opponents in these games are 2nd place Big Ten teams if the Big Ten is good(becuase the 1st place team goes to the title game) or a 1st place Big Ten team when the conference is down.

 

It's really hard to go undefeated and expecting a team to do it often, let alone every year, is pretty absurd.

[The Voice of Reason]

lol usc didn't win the national title what a joke program

 

If you're gonna cheat, you should get some results beyond a home game against either the 2nd place Big Ten team or the 1st place Big Ten team in a down year every single year.(That was a horribly structured sentence)

 

Iowa in 2002, Michigan in 2003 and 2006, Illinois in 2007, Ohio State in 2008, Penn State in 2008...

 

The poor Big 10 just is SOOO UNLUCKY that USC keeps catching them when they're down :roll:

 

You're grasping at straws.

 

That's what we call missing the point. USC plays a home game every years on January 1st because they're too undisciplined to try against teams they should beat the crap out of.

 

Their opponents in these games are 2nd place Big Ten teams if the Big Ten is good(becuase the 1st place team goes to the title game) or a 1st place Big Ten team when the conference is down.

 

The Trojans would rather be playing in the championship game or at least against Texas or Alabama than yet again beating up on a Big Team (I'm sure ABC would too). OSU is a hard place to play and all good teams have at least one let down game during a 12 game season.

[Derwood]

lol usc didn't win the national title what a joke program

 

If you're gonna cheat, you should get some results beyond a home game against either the 2nd place Big Ten team or the 1st place Big Ten team in a down year every single year.(That was a horribly structured sentence)

 

Iowa in 2002, Michigan in 2003 and 2006, Illinois in 2007, Ohio State in 2008, Penn State in 2008...

 

The poor Big 10 just is SOOO UNLUCKY that USC keeps catching them when they're down :roll:

 

You're grasping at straws.

 

That's what we call missing the point. USC plays a home game every years on January 1st because they're too undisciplined to try against teams they should beat the crap out of.

 

Their opponents in these games are 2nd place Big Ten teams if the Big Ten is good(becuase the 1st place team goes to the title game) or a 1st place Big Ten team when the conference is down.

 

It's really hard to go undefeated and expecting a team to do it often, let alone every year, is pretty absurd.

 

USC's talent level is head and shoulders above the rest of the conference. When they've lost (recently), it's been to far inferior teams. That's a coaching/discipline/motivation issue

[imb]

damien williams is so black his momma was made out of dark matter

[imb]

he's so black that if you tackle him you suffer time dilation

[Derwood]

damien williams is so black his momma was made out of dark matter

 

Damian Williams is so open that he gains 30 yards a catch.

 

the only joke in there is PSU's secondary

[imb]

that's a physics joke, son, step your game up

[SpongeWorthy]

lol usc didn't win the national title what a joke program

 

If you're gonna cheat, you should get some results beyond a home game against either the 2nd place Big Ten team or the 1st place Big Ten team in a down year every single year.(That was a horribly structured sentence)

 

Iowa in 2002, Michigan in 2003 and 2006, Illinois in 2007, Ohio State in 2008, Penn State in 2008...

 

The poor Big 10 just is SOOO UNLUCKY that USC keeps catching them when they're down :roll:

 

You're grasping at straws.

 

That's what we call missing the point. USC plays a home game every years on January 1st because they're too undisciplined to try against teams they should beat the crap out of.

 

Their opponents in these games are 2nd place Big Ten teams if the Big Ten is good(becuase the 1st place team goes to the title game) or a 1st place Big Ten team when the conference is down.

 

It's really hard to go undefeated and expecting a team to do it often, let alone every year, is pretty absurd.

 

USC's talent level is head and shoulders above the rest of the conference. When they've lost (recently), it's been to far inferior teams. That's a coaching/discipline/motivation issue

 

I agree to a certain extent. I think Carroll's style is great for USC when it comes to big games but it does seem to harm them for the "lesser" games.

 

That being said, it's extraordinarily difficult to go undefeated and it's just a ridiculous expectation to say that USC should go undefeated every year.

[Derwood]

it's less about USC not going undefeated and more about who they lose to.

[SouthSideRyan]

lol usc didn't win the national title what a joke program

 

If you're gonna cheat, you should get some results beyond a home game against either the 2nd place Big Ten team or the 1st place Big Ten team in a down year every single year.(That was a horribly structured sentence)

 

Iowa in 2002, Michigan in 2003 and 2006, Illinois in 2007, Ohio State in 2008, Penn State in 2008...

 

The poor Big 10 just is SOOO UNLUCKY that USC keeps catching them when they're down :roll:

 

You're grasping at straws.

 

That's what we call missing the point. USC plays a home game every years on January 1st because they're too undisciplined to try against teams they should beat the crap out of.

 

Their opponents in these games are 2nd place Big Ten teams if the Big Ten is good(becuase the 1st place team goes to the title game) or a 1st place Big Ten team when the conference is down.

 

The Trojans would rather be playing in the championship game or at least against Texas or Alabama than yet again beating up on a Big Team (I'm sure ABC would too). OSU is a hard place to play and all good teams have at least one let down game during a 12 game season.

 

So USC isn't a great team.

[SpongeWorthy]

it's less about USC not going undefeated and more about who they lose to.

 

Eh, I still maintain that Oregon State is a good program that fielded quite a strong team this year. At the time the loss was viewed worse than it ultimately turned out to be. It's certainly not in the same category as losing to Stanford or UCLA in 2006.

[Derwood]

Penn State's vaunted O-Line is getting blowed up

[Guest]

The beginning of the end for the Nittany Lambs. Bring on the Oklahoma/Florida winner.

 

1 - 6 (after OSU loses to Texas) = another great bowl season by the most over rated football conference in the country.

 

PAC 10 is 5 - 0 in bowls. USC was robbed out of a championship game birth.

 

You know how you would have not been robbed. Beating an Oregon St. team that managed to score 3 points against Pitt.

 

Another year, another no championship for you. Soooooooooo sad.

 

Oregon State is a good, consistent program though. And they beat Pitt without the Rodgers brothers (Quizz Rodgers was Pac 10 player of the year). I don't see what's such an embarrassment about losing to them.

 

Well, Penn State beat Oregon State 45-14.

 

And USC beat Ohio State 35-3.

 

Citing the results of those two games means nothing because they cancel each other out.

[Derwood]

The beginning of the end for the Nittany Lambs. Bring on the Oklahoma/Florida winner.

 

1 - 6 (after OSU loses to Texas) = another great bowl season by the most over rated football conference in the country.

 

PAC 10 is 5 - 0 in bowls. USC was robbed out of a championship game birth.

 

You know how you would have not been robbed. Beating an Oregon St. team that managed to score 3 points against Pitt.

 

Another year, another no championship for you. Soooooooooo sad.

 

Oregon State is a good, consistent program though. And they beat Pitt without the Rodgers brothers (Quizz Rodgers was Pac 10 player of the year). I don't see what's such an embarrassment about losing to them.

 

Well, Penn State beat Oregon State 45-14.

 

And USC beat Ohio State 35-3.

 

Citing the results of those two games means nothing because they cancel each other out.

 

agreed. the transitive property doesn't apply to sports

[SouthSideRyan]

The beginning of the end for the Nittany Lambs. Bring on the Oklahoma/Florida winner.

 

1 - 6 (after OSU loses to Texas) = another great bowl season by the most over rated football conference in the country.

 

PAC 10 is 5 - 0 in bowls. USC was robbed out of a championship game birth.

 

You know how you would have not been robbed. Beating an Oregon St. team that managed to score 3 points against Pitt.

 

Another year, another no championship for you. Soooooooooo sad.

 

Oregon State is a good, consistent program though. And they beat Pitt without the Rodgers brothers (Quizz Rodgers was Pac 10 player of the year). I don't see what's such an embarrassment about losing to them.

 

Well, Penn State beat Oregon State 45-14.

 

And USC beat Ohio State 35-3.

 

Citing the results of those two games means nothing because they cancel each other out.

 

He's saying that Oregon State isn't that good.

[NewUserName]

The beginning of the end for the Nittany Lambs. Bring on the Oklahoma/Florida winner.

 

1 - 6 (after OSU loses to Texas) = another great bowl season by the most over rated football conference in the country.

 

PAC 10 is 5 - 0 in bowls. USC was robbed out of a championship game birth.

 

You know how you would have not been robbed. Beating an Oregon St. team that managed to score 3 points against Pitt.

 

Another year, another no championship for you. Soooooooooo sad.

 

Oregon State is a good, consistent program though. And they beat Pitt without the Rodgers brothers (Quizz Rodgers was Pac 10 player of the year). I don't see what's such an embarrassment about losing to them.

 

Well, Penn State beat Oregon State 45-14.

 

And USC beat Ohio State 35-3.

 

Citing the results of those two games means nothing because they cancel each other out.

 

agreed. the transitive property doesn't apply to sports

 

I think it is obvious that USC is head and shoulders above everyone in both conferences. If you took the Pac 10 vs the Big 10 2-10, it would be close or advantage Big Ten.

[dew1679666265]

Just thought I'd contribute that USC cheerleaders are extremely awesome.

[Derwood]

Just thought I'd contribute that USC cheerleaders are extremely awesome.

 

no doubt.

[Exile on Waveland]

The beginning of the end for the Nittany Lambs. Bring on the Oklahoma/Florida winner.

 

1 - 6 (after OSU loses to Texas) = another great bowl season by the most over rated football conference in the country.

 

PAC 10 is 5 - 0 in bowls. USC was robbed out of a championship game birth.

 

You know how you would have not been robbed. Beating an Oregon St. team that managed to score 3 points against Pitt.

 

Another year, another no championship for you. Soooooooooo sad.

 

Oregon State is a good, consistent program though. And they beat Pitt without the Rodgers brothers (Quizz Rodgers was Pac 10 player of the year). I don't see what's such an embarrassment about losing to them.

 

Well, Penn State beat Oregon State 45-14.

 

And USC beat Ohio State 35-3.

 

Citing the results of those two games means nothing because they cancel each other out.

 

I don't understand what cancels what out. But in quantifying singular losses for a national title contender, losing to a team that lost 45-14 to Penn State and 65-28 at home to Oregon has to considered a subpar loss. Oregon State is a quality team, sure. This string of posts is whether USC was "robbed" of playing in the title game. They weren't. They were less deserving than Florida, Oklahoma and Texas.

[Guest]

lol usc didn't win the national title what a joke program

 

If you're gonna cheat, you should get some results beyond a home game against either the 2nd place Big Ten team or the 1st place Big Ten team in a down year every single year.(That was a horribly structured sentence)

 

Iowa in 2002, Michigan in 2003 and 2006, Illinois in 2007, Ohio State in 2008, Penn State in 2008...

 

The poor Big 10 just is SOOO UNLUCKY that USC keeps catching them when they're down :roll:

 

You're grasping at straws.

 

That's what we call missing the point. USC plays a home game every years on January 1st because they're too undisciplined to try against teams they should beat the crap out of.

 

Their opponents in these games are 2nd place Big Ten teams if the Big Ten is good(becuase the 1st place team goes to the title game) or a 1st place Big Ten team when the conference is down.

 

There were a ton of Penn State fans at the Rose Bowl so it's not exactly a true home game.

 

Florida, Texas, USC and Penn State all lost to teams that they have more talent than and should have beaten and in each case but Texas, probably beaten handily. Every team has a letdown or two at some point in the year or a game where they play poorly. Sometimes they win, others they don't.

 

And even if USC is playing against the Big 10 in the Rose Bowl each year, they're still routing the first or second place Big 10 team every time they play them. It's still remarkable what they've been able to do.

[Exile on Waveland]

The beginning of the end for the Nittany Lambs. Bring on the Oklahoma/Florida winner.

 

1 - 6 (after OSU loses to Texas) = another great bowl season by the most over rated football conference in the country.

 

PAC 10 is 5 - 0 in bowls. USC was robbed out of a championship game birth.

 

You know how you would have not been robbed. Beating an Oregon St. team that managed to score 3 points against Pitt.

 

Another year, another no championship for you. Soooooooooo sad.

 

Oregon State is a good, consistent program though. And they beat Pitt without the Rodgers brothers (Quizz Rodgers was Pac 10 player of the year). I don't see what's such an embarrassment about losing to them.

 

Well, Penn State beat Oregon State 45-14.

 

And USC beat Ohio State 35-3.

 

Citing the results of those two games means nothing because they cancel each other out.

 

agreed. the transitive property doesn't apply to sports

 

Obviously it doesn't. That's not what I was saying at all. Oregon State was a bad loss for one trying to claim they were "robbed" of a title game berth.