Re: College Football - Week of 11/29

[SpongeWorthy]

Does this mean I can pencil OU in for 60+ against Bama or Florida? You know, since Big XII defensive coordinators couldn't possibly be doing a better job of game planning against their revolutionary offense.

[imb]

i don't understand your spaz attack

 

no one is saying that ttu/osu defenses are equal to bama's or florida's, but do you really think OU's not a threat to put up 35+ on either of them? TCU and Texas have pretty solid defenses and they did that without even running the ball.

[SpongeWorthy]

I'm saying Big XII defensive coaches are probably not doing all they could or should be doing to prepare for OU's offense.

 

As in, their teams should act like they've seen a slant or a crossing route before.

[imb]

well duh, no one in the big 12 is any good at defense.

 

maybe you should give one of them a call im sure they could use the help

[imb]

oh crap its all slant routes we should have seen this!

[SpongeWorthy]

I take it all back. I was way off for suggesting that poor defensive coaching may play a role in why OU has put up 58+ for 5 straight games.

[imb]

i just hope missouri (if we play them) and/or our bowl opponent don't read nsbb

 

once they find out it's all slant routes we'll be sunk

[imb]

raisin delete this thread before the secret gets out

[Guest]

raisin delete this thread before the secret gets out

 

It won't matter, you guys have all the luck in the world.

[SpongeWorthy]

Do you have anything besides pithy remarks to counter my argument that OU has a largely one dimensional offense and should therefore be better defensed than it has been?

[Guest]

Do you have anything besides pithy remarks to counter my argument that OU has a largely one dimensional offense and should therefore be better defensed than it has been?

 

You appear to be greatly undervaluing Oklahoma's running game.

[imb]

Do you have anything besides pithy remarks to counter my argument that OU has a largely one dimensional offense and should therefore be better defensed than it has been?

 

203.8 rushing yards per game

 

they'd probably run more often if they didn't complete 70 percent of their passes

 

who knew a scouting report based on watching 2 hours of one game and not looking at any stats could be faulty

[SpongeWorthy]

Eh, they run the ball well enough to complement an excellent passing attack. I would hardly call them dominant on the ground (ala their 2004 edition with AD). Brown is average. Murray's a nice player--the homeless man's Peterson perhaps. They remind me a lot of their 2003 team that was being touted as possibly the greatest collegiate offense ever until being exposed by KSU and LSU.

 

Or maybe the 2007 Sooners that were largely pedestrian against a good West Virginia defense. I just see them as much more containable than Florida.

[imb]

Eh, they run the ball well enough to complement an excellent passing attack. I would hardly call them dominant on the ground (ala their 2004 edition with AD). Brown is average. Murray's a nice player--the homeless man's Peterson perhaps. They remind me a lot of their 2003 team that was being touted as possibly the greatest collegiate offense ever until being exposed by KSU and LSU.

 

Or maybe the 2007 Sooners that were largely pedestrian against a good West Virginia defense. I just see them as much more containable than Florida.

 

2004's run game averaged 208.4 yards per game

 

4.8 yards per rush in 2004, 4.7 yards per rush in 2008

Edited November 30, 2008 by Bunts Lick Butts

[hotshot13422]

Do you have anything besides pithy remarks to counter my argument that OU has a largely one dimensional offense and should therefore be better defensed than it has been?

 

6200 total yards

563.6 YPG

2242 Rushing Yards

203.8 RYPG

3881 Passing Yards

352.8 PYPG

579 Points

52.6 PPG

 

Oh lordy, lordy. That is by far the most one sided offense i have ever seen in my life...

[SpongeWorthy]

Eh, they run the ball well enough to complement an excellent passing attack. I would hardly call them dominant on the ground (ala their 2004 edition with AD). Brown is average. Murray's a nice player--the homeless man's Peterson perhaps. They remind me a lot of their 2003 team that was being touted as possibly the greatest collegiate offense ever until being exposed by KSU and LSU.

 

Or maybe the 2007 Sooners that were largely pedestrian against a good West Virginia defense. I just see them as much more containable than Florida.

 

2004's run game averaged 208.4 yards per game

 

That must mean Demarco Murray is just as good as Adrian Peterson.

[hotshot13422]

Eh, they run the ball well enough to complement an excellent passing attack. I would hardly call them dominant on the ground (ala their 2004 edition with AD). Brown is average. Murray's a nice player--the homeless man's Peterson perhaps. They remind me a lot of their 2003 team that was being touted as possibly the greatest collegiate offense ever until being exposed by KSU and LSU.

 

Or maybe the 2007 Sooners that were largely pedestrian against a good West Virginia defense. I just see them as much more containable than Florida.

 

2004's run game averaged 208.4 yards per game

 

That must mean Demarco Murray is just as good as Adrian Peterson.

 

Are you serious? No, that's not what it means at all. It means that our TEAM can run the ball just as well as we did with Peterson. In reality though, we actually run the ball better if you go by yards per attempt.

 

So, yeah, your argument makes so much sense...

[Guest]

I could see a USC or a Florida slowing OU down in a bowl game more than teams in the regular season have for the simple fact that they'll have a 4 or 5 weeks to prepare rather than a week or two.

[Mephistopheles]

Demps and Harvin are #1 and #2 nationally in yards per carry. Chris Rainey is sitting #8 and Emmanuel Moody is sitting #12. If you just look at BCS teams, they're #1, #2, #4, and #7.

 

Yo.

 

Note: This isn't including this weeks game. Demps ran the ball 9 times for 89 yards, which will increase his YPC a little bit. Harvins will go down a bit, but he and Demps have a 1 yard lead over #3. Rainey's average will also increase as he ran the ball 8 times for 97 yards. Moody's will also slightly increase, after he ran 5 times for 40.

[SpongeWorthy]

See, if you looked at just the stats you might conclude something crazy like Rainey and Demps are better runningbacks than Beanie Wells and Knowshown Moreno.

 

(Or that Tim Tebow is an accurate passer)

[imb]

Eh, they run the ball well enough to complement an excellent passing attack. I would hardly call them dominant on the ground (ala their 2004 edition with AD). Brown is average. Murray's a nice player--the homeless man's Peterson perhaps. They remind me a lot of their 2003 team that was being touted as possibly the greatest collegiate offense ever until being exposed by KSU and LSU.

 

Or maybe the 2007 Sooners that were largely pedestrian against a good West Virginia defense. I just see them as much more containable than Florida.

 

2004's run game averaged 208.4 yards per game

 

That must mean Demarco Murray is just as good as Adrian Peterson.

 

i thought your point was that ou is one dimensional and they can't run the ball as effectively as they did in 2004? where did the demarco murray - adrian peterson comparison come from?

 

 

you're panicking

 

[imb]

I could see a USC or a Florida slowing OU down in a bowl game more than teams in the regular season have for the simple fact that they'll have a 4 or 5 weeks to prepare rather than a week or two.

 

that and the fact that they have good defensive players. i know less about florida than i do about usc, but usc's defense is really, really good.

[imb]

See, if you looked at just the stats you might conclude something crazy like Rainey and Demps are better runningbacks than Beanie Wells and Knowshown Moreno.

 

hahaha, you can't even figure out what argument you're trying to make

 

keeeeep reaching

[SpongeWorthy]

Eh, they run the ball well enough to complement an excellent passing attack. I would hardly call them dominant on the ground (ala their 2004 edition with AD). Brown is average. Murray's a nice player--the homeless man's Peterson perhaps. They remind me a lot of their 2003 team that was being touted as possibly the greatest collegiate offense ever until being exposed by KSU and LSU.

 

Or maybe the 2007 Sooners that were largely pedestrian against a good West Virginia defense. I just see them as much more containable than Florida.

 

2004's run game averaged 208.4 yards per game

 

That must mean Demarco Murray is just as good as Adrian Peterson.

 

 

 

i thought your point was that ou is one dimensional and they can't run the ball as effectively as they did in 2004? where did the demarco murray - adrian peterson comparison come from?

 

 

you're panicking

 

My point is that you can't say this year's OU ground attack is just as good as that year's OU ground attack because the numbers are the same. If that were true, you'd say it was irrelevant whether I had Murray/Brown back there or Peterson/Jones/Choice back there. Clearly that isn't the case.

[imb]

Eh, they run the ball well enough to complement an excellent passing attack. I would hardly call them dominant on the ground (ala their 2004 edition with AD). Brown is average. Murray's a nice player--the homeless man's Peterson perhaps. They remind me a lot of their 2003 team that was being touted as possibly the greatest collegiate offense ever until being exposed by KSU and LSU.

 

Or maybe the 2007 Sooners that were largely pedestrian against a good West Virginia defense. I just see them as much more containable than Florida.

 

2004's run game averaged 208.4 yards per game

 

That must mean Demarco Murray is just as good as Adrian Peterson.

 

 

 

i thought your point was that ou is one dimensional and they can't run the ball as effectively as they did in 2004? where did the demarco murray - adrian peterson comparison come from?

 

 

you're panicking

 

My point is that you can't say this year's OU ground attack is just as good as that year's OU ground attack because the numbers are the same. If that were true, you'd say it was irrelevant whether I had Murray/Brown back there or Peterson/Jones/Choice back there. Clearly that isn't the case.

 

and you can't say that it's a one dimensional offense when they average 0.1 yards per carry less than they did in 2004 - a year that you called a "dominant ground game."

 

Murray is no Peterson, but Brown is much better than Jones. And the offensive line this year is far better than 2004's, all parts of a picture that paint a run game that in no way makes OU's offense one dimensional.