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The Cubs are showing interest in acquiring Mark Teahen from the Royals, the Kansas City Star reports.

The Cubs have aimed for David DeJesus before, and he'd still make a lot more sense as a target for the team than Teahen, who would likely be a below average right fielder. The Star suggests Felix Pie as a possible return for Teahen, but that'd be an awful trade for the Cubs. Pie and Ronny Cedeno for DeJesus would be a reasonable deal.

 

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I would probably take Teahan over a guy like Griffey for RF. But he's towards the bottom of my list, as RF options. Trading Pie in a deal for Teahan would be awful. Teahan value is more at the level of Kevin Hart or Ronny Cedeno at this point.
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Eh. I'd like to think we could do better. Maybe if they sign Furcal, and have a Riot/Fonty platoon at 2nd and a Dero/Teahen platoon in RF...but I don't see them going with platoon's at 3 positions.

 

I guess he fits the mold of an "athletic" lefty though, since he plays a bunch of positions.

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I am very adamant about NOT acquiring Teahen. I have seen a fair amount of him over the past couple seasons and really have no reason to believe he is going to make it as an average (much less above-average) ML'er.

 

The approach is there, the talent isn't. He's fading fast IMO.

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I am very adamant about NOT acquiring Teahen. I have seen a fair amount of him over the past couple seasons and really have no reason to believe he is going to make it as an average (much less above-average) ML'er.

 

The approach is there, the talent isn't. He's fading fast IMO.

 

He hasn't even hit his prime years yet. Perhaps he could benefit from Gerald Perry's advice? I don't know, I'm not big on acquiring him either, I'm just trying to be optimistic.

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I am very adamant about NOT acquiring Teahen. I have seen a fair amount of him over the past couple seasons and really have no reason to believe he is going to make it as an average (much less above-average) ML'er.

 

The approach is there, the talent isn't. He's fading fast IMO.

 

He hasn't even hit his prime years yet. Perhaps he could benefit from Gerald Perry's advice? I don't know, I'm not big on acquiring him either, I'm just trying to be optimistic.

 

He turned 27 this fall. Most agree prime years are generally somewhere between 26-29. If a hitter isn't capable of producing by the time he's 26/27, I'm not sure how much realistic hope there is for him to produce in his later 20's.

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I am very adamant about NOT acquiring Teahen. I have seen a fair amount of him over the past couple seasons and really have no reason to believe he is going to make it as an average (much less above-average) ML'er.

 

The approach is there, the talent isn't. He's fading fast IMO.

 

He hasn't even hit his prime years yet. Perhaps he could benefit from Gerald Perry's advice? I don't know, I'm not big on acquiring him either, I'm just trying to be optimistic.

 

He turned 27 this fall. Most agree prime years are generally somewhere between 26-29. If a hitter isn't capable of producing by the time he's 26/27, I'm not sure how much realistic hope there is for him to produce in his later 20's.

 

 

Right jersey, especially when that hitter has regressed rather than progressed over the past couple seasons. I would have taken him 3 years ago probably.

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I'd be perfectly fine with Teahen occupying the spot on the roster previously held by Daryle Ward's corpse, but not as the every day RFer. I figured this might be a likely target for Hendry when the Royals acquired Jacobs.
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I am very adamant about NOT acquiring Teahen. I have seen a fair amount of him over the past couple seasons and really have no reason to believe he is going to make it as an average (much less above-average) ML'er.

 

The approach is there, the talent isn't. He's fading fast IMO.

 

He hasn't even hit his prime years yet. Perhaps he could benefit from Gerald Perry's advice? I don't know, I'm not big on acquiring him either, I'm just trying to be optimistic.

 

He turned 27 this fall. Most agree prime years are generally somewhere between 26-29. If a hitter isn't capable of producing by the time he's 26/27, I'm not sure how much realistic hope there is for him to produce in his later 20's.

 

Well it seems like his numbers are like a rollercoaster sinceh is breakout year in 2006. In 2007 his power numbers were zapped (18HR in 393AB to 7HR in 544AB) but he still hit .285 with a .353 OBP, which is solid although admittedly not so much for a corner OF'er. But this year his power came back a little bit but at the expense of his contact (15HR to his .255 AVG and .313OBP) which is unacceptable.

 

I think that perhaps it may be more of the fact that he has the talent but not the approach. Perhaps Perry could help him with that? Like I said, just trying to be optimistic on him and I'm not much for acquiring him, but if the rumor has truth to it, might as well try and look on the bright side of things

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Like I said, just trying to be optimistic on him and I'm not much for acquiring him, but if the rumor has truth to it, might as well try and look on the bright side of things

 

If the guy was already a Cub, I might see the point in trying to look on the bright side of things. But I don't see the reason why you'd want to pretend a bad trade target is better than he is.

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Don't we already sort of have a Teahen in Hoffpauir?

 

No. Teahen can actually play outfield as well as others positions Hoffpauir can't.

 

I don't want him though, unless it's for scraps and he's used as a bench player

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Don't we already sort of have a Teahen in Hoffpauir?

 

No. Teahen can actually play outfield as well as others positions Hoffpauir can't.

 

I don't want him though, unless it's for scraps and he's used as a bench player

What did Teahan slug last year, .390? No thanks.

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Don't we already sort of have a Teahen in Hoffpauir?

 

No. Teahen can actually play outfield as well as others positions Hoffpauir can't.

 

I don't want him though, unless it's for scraps and he's used as a bench player

 

And the other positions that Teahen plays are positions he won't be playing for the Cubs, thus he really has no more value than a guy we already have that can only play corner outfield positions.

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Don't we already sort of have a Teahen in Hoffpauir?

 

No. Teahen can actually play outfield as well as others positions Hoffpauir can't.

 

I don't want him though, unless it's for scraps and he's used as a bench player

 

And the other positions that Teahen plays are positions he won't be playing for the Cubs, thus he really has no more value than a guy we already have that can only play corner outfield positions.

 

Guys who can lay multiple positions always have more value even if those positions are filled. Felixibility is always welcome and needed over the course of a fukll season.

 

My point is that I don't get the comparison between Teahen and Hoffpauir. Hoffpauir is a first baseman and can't play the outfield every day. Teahen can, as well as other positions Hoffpauir can't.

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Don't we already sort of have a Teahen in Hoffpauir?

 

No. Teahen can actually play outfield as well as others positions Hoffpauir can't.

 

I don't want him though, unless it's for scraps and he's used as a bench player

 

And the other positions that Teahen plays are positions he won't be playing for the Cubs, thus he really has no more value than a guy we already have that can only play corner outfield positions.

 

Guys who can lay multiple positions always have more value even if those positions are filled. Felixibility is always welcome and needed over the course of a fukll season.

 

My point is that I don't get the comparison between Teahen and Hoffpauir. Hoffpauir is a first baseman and can't play the outfield every day. Teahen can, as well as other positions Hoffpauir can't.

How much value does Teahan have playing anywhere other then pitcher with his .715 OPS or 91 OPS+?

 

He has had one year as an acceptable big league hitter. I would hate to see us give up anything good to get him.

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Like I said, just trying to be optimistic on him and I'm not much for acquiring him, but if the rumor has truth to it, might as well try and look on the bright side of things

 

If the guy was already a Cub, I might see the point in trying to look on the bright side of things. But I don't see the reason why you'd want to pretend a bad trade target is better than he is.

 

Just trying to shake things up a bit... that plus I wasn't breast fed as a child

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