Re: Peavy High on Cubs Wish List

[Fred Hornkohl]

by the time those stupid cardinals prospects are ready to contribute, pujols is going to be 39, anyway

 

i still have a bobby hill rookie card thing i bought at this baseball card show my friend dragged me to

 

oh, and a corey patterson autographed jersey card or something. i also bought a fat stack of dennis eckersley cards for like 2 bucks because that mustache is timeless

 

Wasn't Pujols 39 like three years ago ?? :wink:

[B]

They are going to have to develop some bats in that time because there's very little chance they will be able to sign all the guys they'd need off of free agency.

 

Trade is more likely, same way we got most of our good bats now.

 

 

Oh?

 

Free Agents

Alfonso Soriano

Milton Bradley

Aaron Miles

Kosuke Fukudome

Joey Gathright

Reed Johnson

 

Trades

Derrek Lee

Aramis Ramirez

 

System

Geovany Soto

Ryan Theriot

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

Mike Fontenot (or trade)

Micah Hoffpauir

Are you considering all of those good?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

They are going to have to develop some bats in that time because there's very little chance they will be able to sign all the guys they'd need off of free agency.

 

Trade is more likely, same way we got most of our good bats now.

 

 

Oh?

 

Free Agents

Alfonso Soriano

Milton Bradley

Aaron Miles

Kosuke Fukudome

Joey Gathright

Reed Johnson

 

Trades

Derrek Lee

Aramis Ramirez

 

System

Geovany Soto

Ryan Theriot

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

Mike Fontenot (or trade)

Micah Hoffpauir

 

At a quick glance, 67% of that list are not good bats.

[Bote McBoteface]

At a quick glance, We got Bradley and Soriano as free agents, Lee and Ramirez from trades, and Soto and Theriot from the farm system which accounts for our "good bats." Seems pretty even.

 

 

And yes I included Theriot as a good bat simply so that we would have two from each category.

[Garwilly]

They are going to have to develop some bats in that time because there's very little chance they will be able to sign all the guys they'd need off of free agency.

 

Trade is more likely, same way we got most of our good bats now.

 

 

Oh?

 

Free Agents

Alfonso Soriano

Milton Bradley

Aaron Miles

Kosuke Fukudome

Joey Gathright

Reed Johnson

 

Trades

Derrek Lee

Aramis Ramirez

 

System

Geovany Soto

Ryan Theriot

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

Mike Fontenot (or trade)

Micah Hoffpauir

 

At a quick glance, 67% of that list are not good bats.

 

I was being thorough. Leaving just the "good" or were paid to be "good", and you statement is still far from accurate.

 

Free Agents

Alfonso Soriano

Milton Bradley

Kosuke Fukudome

 

Trades

Derrek Lee

Aramis Ramirez

 

System

Geovany Soto

[Cubswin11]

Moores will remain the Padres owner for 3-4 years and Moorad will eventually take over but not for a few years. So a Peavy trade could still be possible with Moores in control.

 

John Moores will remain as majority owner of the Padres for three or four years, even if the ongoing negotiations with a Jeff Moorad-led group yields an agreement, according to major league sources.

Moorad eventually would assume the largest financial stake in the club, but not for a matter of years, the sources said. However, at some point this year, Moorad would assume a powerful decision-making role within the front office, with the added clout of being the majority owner in waiting and a minority owner in the near term.

 

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/jan/10/padres-s11padres/?padres

[Hairyducked Idiot]

They are going to have to develop some bats in that time because there's very little chance they will be able to sign all the guys they'd need off of free agency.

 

Trade is more likely, same way we got most of our good bats now.

 

 

Oh?

 

Free Agents

Alfonso Soriano

Milton Bradley

Aaron Miles

Kosuke Fukudome

Joey Gathright

Reed Johnson

 

Trades

Derrek Lee

Aramis Ramirez

 

System

Geovany Soto

Ryan Theriot

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

Mike Fontenot (or trade)

Micah Hoffpauir

 

At a quick glance, 67% of that list are not good bats.

 

I was being thorough. Leaving just the "good" or were paid to be "good", and you statement is still far from accurate.

 

Free Agents

Alfonso Soriano

Milton Bradley

Kosuke Fukudome

 

Trades

Derrek Lee

Aramis Ramirez

 

System

Geovany Soto

 

Why would you leave "paid to be good" when I didn't say that? You keep trying to massage the numbers.

[davell]

If Peavy isn't dealt for whatever reason, I certainly don't want to see us add Wolf. I'd take Sheets, Lowe, or even Perez, but it looks like Lowe is too pricey and Sheets and Perez are barely(if at all) on our radar......Which brings up the question of who else could be dealt for? What about Bedard at this point? I doubt Seattle would want to move him without recouping MOST of what they gave up to get him, since it was just a year ago.....But, a package of Pie/Cedeno/Wuertz/ or Stevens and Castillo could interest them possibly? Would he fair better with a contender than he did last year? I think so anyway and if Peavy isn't an option, I think I'd explore this.

[RedFlash]

But, a package of Pie/Cedeno/Wuertz/ or Stevens and Castillo could interest them possibly?

 

IMO, that is way too much for perhaps a pitcher who grossly underachieved last yr. No way do Seattle recoup the prospects they gave up.

[bcl412]

But, a package of Pie/Cedeno/Wuertz/ or Stevens and Castillo could interest them possibly?

 

IMO, that is way too much for perhaps a pitcher who grossly underachieved last yr. No way do Seattle recoup the prospects they gave up.

 

I wouldn't be dissapointed at all in losing Cedeno/Wuertz, it's hard to say if Pie is going to pan out and I don't know who Stevens and Castillo are because I barely follow the minor leagues, but if they aren't stand out prospects I wouldn't mind giving that up for Peavy.

[Garwilly]

They are going to have to develop some bats in that time because there's very little chance they will be able to sign all the guys they'd need off of free agency.

 

Trade is more likely, same way we got most of our good bats now.

 

 

Oh?

 

Free Agents

Alfonso Soriano

Milton Bradley

Aaron Miles

Kosuke Fukudome

Joey Gathright

Reed Johnson

 

Trades

Derrek Lee

Aramis Ramirez

 

System

Geovany Soto

Ryan Theriot

Felix Pie

Ronny Cedeno

Mike Fontenot (or trade)

Micah Hoffpauir

 

At a quick glance, 67% of that list are not good bats.

 

I was being thorough. Leaving just the "good" or were paid to be "good", and you statement is still far from accurate.

 

Free Agents

Alfonso Soriano

Milton Bradley

Kosuke Fukudome

 

Trades

Derrek Lee

Aramis Ramirez

 

System

Geovany Soto

 

Why would you leave "paid to be good" when I didn't say that? You keep trying to massage the numbers.

 

This is a dicussion where you assert that the Cubs trade to fill holes with good players more often than the sign them via free agency. Fukudome is clearly an example of a signing of a "good" player.

 

Keep trying to massage the numbers? Ok, I'll keep looking for these massive number of trades you're claiming.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Fukudome isn't good.

[RedFlash]

Fukudome isn't good.

 

I want to see him make adjustments and fail, before I make that statement. I still believe Fuku can be a productive player for the Cubs.

[Garwilly]

Fukudome isn't good.

 

And the cubs don't trade for more bats than they sign.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Fukudome isn't good.

 

And the cubs don't trade for more bats than they sign.

 

Until a week ago it was 50/50, so that counts as "most."

 

So I was a week behind.

 

We could have arrived at that without 15 different misrepresentations of what "good" is.

[Guest]

Fukudome isn't good.

 

And the cubs don't trade for more bats than they sign.

 

Until a week ago it was 50/50, so that counts as "most."

 

So I was a week behind.

 

We could have arrived at that without 15 different misrepresentations of what "good" is.

Didn't you claim 67%?

[cubfan]

Fukudome isn't good.

 

And the cubs don't trade for more bats than they sign.

 

Until a week ago it was 50/50, so that counts as "most."

 

So I was a week behind.

 

We could have arrived at that without 15 different misrepresentations of what "good" is.

 

I'd call 50/50 half not most but what do I know. :)

[Mephistopheles]

tell that to al gore.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Fukudome isn't good.

 

And the cubs don't trade for more bats than they sign.

 

Until a week ago it was 50/50, so that counts as "most."

 

So I was a week behind.

 

We could have arrived at that without 15 different misrepresentations of what "good" is.

Didn't you claim 67%?

 

No. I said that 67% of the list in his first rebuttal were not good.

[The Other 15]

Peavy was signing autographs with "Go Cubs" in Las Vegas. He and his agent were very upset with the way the negotiations were handled with the Cubs. No way that change in ownership goes through for at least another year. They have no options but to trade Peavy because they know they are not in position to pay one player 25% of their payroll.

 

None of this suggests he will be traded to the Cubs but he will be traded. Since the Cubs have a history in Peavy negotiations, it isn't out of hand to assume they may end up being involved.

 

My guess is that Peavy is traded near the end of spring training when the Padres will feel the urgency to field a better team than last year by using Peavy to get a couple of pieces. Coincidentally, the Cubs ownership picture will look clearer by then.

[flynnhicks03]

It's probably been mentioned, and I don't know the exact timeframe, but Kaplan was on our local sports talk show in Des Moines and mentioned that Oswalt and Peavy were out drinking one night, and Peavy got up and sang "Go Cubs Go" karaoke. Somebody asked him about it, and he said, "Dude, that's where I want to go", or "Dude, that's the only place I'll go" or something to that extent. I'm still really hoping we can land him...

[Gmoney08]

It's probably been mentioned, and I don't know the exact timeframe, but Kaplan was on our local sports talk show in Des Moines and mentioned that Oswalt and Peavy were out drinking one night, and Peavy got up and sang "Go Cubs Go" karaoke. Somebody asked him about it, and he said, "Dude, that's where I want to go", or "Dude, that's the only place I'll go" or something to that extent. I'm still really hoping we can land him...

 

didnt he sing this in puerto rico or something too.. IIRC a poster on this board met him down there.

[cubswin2009]

It's probably been mentioned, and I don't know the exact timeframe, but Kaplan was on our local sports talk show in Des Moines and mentioned that Oswalt and Peavy were out drinking one night, and Peavy got up and sang "Go Cubs Go" karaoke. Somebody asked him about it, and he said, "Dude, that's where I want to go", or "Dude, that's the only place I'll go" or something to that extent. I'm still really hoping we can land him...

 

didnt he sing this in puerto rico or something too.. IIRC a poster on this board met him down there.

No he told the poster he wanted to come to Chicago I believe.

[Old Style]

Peavy was signing autographs with "Go Cubs" in Las Vegas.

Has this been confirmed or is it just rumor?

[E.J.]

Peavy was signing autographs with "Go Cubs" in Las Vegas.

Has this been confirmed or is it just rumor?

 

Confirmed.

 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpress/2008/12/jake_peavy_wants_to_be_a_cub.html

 

A friend of mine was in a group in a Las Vegas bar on Sunday night that included Jake Peavy (in the picture above with his wife Katie), and the word is Peavy is fired up to join the Cubs.

 

He's so excited, I hear, that at one point he sang "Go Cubs Go" at the bar after a "Brooks and Dunn" concert he attended with Roy Oswalt.