Re: Peavy High on Cubs Wish List

[UMFan83]

I know its likely just leverage, but I hate to see the Padres claiming 20% odds of this trade getting done. Ugh. It really is Brian Roberts all over again.

 

What reassures me is following the Santana trade talks last year there was such a roller coaster ride of emotions before it finally got done.

What do you expect the Pads to say? They aren't motivated to be honest here. Their motivation is to say whatever helps gain them leverage so they can get more. Right now, their only leverage is their ability to keep Peavy.

 

That's kinda what I just said about leverage..

[cubsfan26]

I thought Churchill said it was 50/50 chance of the trade happening, but the Padres say 20 percent chance? I thought Churchill source was with the Cubs? Edited December 11, 2008 by cubsfan26

[Little Slide Rooter]

Heres the latest rotoworld snip. I know its just a re phrase of what weve been hearing all night, but still

 

Padres GM: Peavy saga nearly over

 

Padres GM Kevin Towers said he expects to know Thursday whether a Jake Peavy-to-the-Cubs deal is possible or not.

 

It won't be done by the time they leave the winter meetings, but he should know whether it will get done. "We had more dialog today than any other day," Towers said. "We'll know tomorrow [Thursday]. Before we check out of this hotel ... we'll know if we have a deal. This has been the entire focus of baseball ops." The Phillies are still believed to be the third team in the trade, but Towers thinks a fourth club will be named. No one has shut the door on the possibility of Felix Pie going to the Orioles, with Baltimore sending Garrett Olson to San Diego in the deal. Dec. 10 - 10:01 pm et

 

[cubswin2009]

I thought Churchill said it was 50/50 chance of the trade happening, and 20 percent chance he stays with the Padres. Maybe I read it wrong.

Someone with the Cubs says 50/50

Someone with the Padres says 20%

[davearm2]

I know its likely just leverage, but I hate to see the Padres claiming 20% odds of this trade getting done.

 

I don't think that's leverage, since Churchill is not a reporter and doesn't post this anywhere. They'd have no reason to lie/posture to him. He's just a friend.

 

Who knows how legit that source is, though.

 

Somehow word got to Churchill through some sort of media connection that the Padres say that there was 20% chance of a trade happening. How is that not trying to get leverage?

Not sure why you'd assume Churchill's Padre info is coming "through some sort of media connection" rather than from someone within the SD org.

 

DISCLAIMER: I have no earthly clue where Churchill's getting his info, except for a mention a long while ago that he knows/communicates with someone in CHC's front office.

[17 Seconds]

I thought Churchill said it was 50/50 chance of the trade happening, but the Padres say 20 percent chance? I thought Churchill source was with the Cubs?

 

He obviously has both. He has other teams well, or at least claims to

[cubswin2009]

This is going to be the longest 24 or so hours ever.

[17 Seconds]

I know its likely just leverage, but I hate to see the Padres claiming 20% odds of this trade getting done.

 

I don't think that's leverage, since Churchill is not a reporter and doesn't post this anywhere. They'd have no reason to lie/posture to him. He's just a friend.

 

Who knows how legit that source is, though.

 

Somehow word got to Churchill through some sort of media connection that the Padres say that there was 20% chance of a trade happening. How is that not trying to get leverage?

Not sure why you'd assume Churchill's Padre info is coming "through some sort of media connection" rather than from someone within the SD org.

 

DISCLAIMER: I have no earthly clue where Churchill's getting his info, except for a mention a long while ago that he knows/communicates with someone in CHC's front office.

 

Exactly. Churchill claims that his sources are members of FOs and people in the organization. He often refers to them by name. There is no reason they would lie to a guy who doesn't even post the info online.

[UMFan83]

I know its likely just leverage, but I hate to see the Padres claiming 20% odds of this trade getting done.

 

I don't think that's leverage, since Churchill is not a reporter and doesn't post this anywhere. They'd have no reason to lie/posture to him. He's just a friend.

 

Who knows how legit that source is, though.

 

Somehow word got to Churchill through some sort of media connection that the Padres say that there was 20% chance of a trade happening. How is that not trying to get leverage?

Not sure why you'd assume Churchill's Padre info is coming "through some sort of media connection" rather than from someone within the SD org.

 

DISCLAIMER: I have no earthly clue where Churchill's getting his info, except for a mention a long while ago that he knows/communicates with someone in CHC's front office.

 

I know he has a Cubs contact, but I am assuming he is at the Winter Meetings, being a Mariners beat writer (correct?). So he has access to a lot of sources right now.

[17 Seconds]

By the way, this was posted on another forum

 

Jessie Rogers reported all day on the score saying that this deal was pretty much falling apart all day. He even broke in one time on murphs show and on Bores and Berstine and said that it does not look like Peavy deal will get done at all let alone at the meetings. Murph went as far to say after Jessie went off the air with him that he thinks it is less then 50 50 that it gets done. Jessie even had lunch with Piniella and he sounded really confident in what he was saying.

[davearm2]

I thought Churchill said it was 50/50 chance of the trade happening, but the Padres say 20 percent chance? I thought Churchill source was with the Cubs?

 

He obviously has both. He has other teams well, or at least claims to

Has Churchill indicated to you what the package being offered to Hendry is? Have you asked him?

 

And how about Hendry's offer?

[RyneDawson]

I know Hendry theoretically has leverage, but I really hope he doesnt screw this up. After the October let down, we need something big this off season, and an outfield bat that may or may not be an upgrade over what we already have plus an aged, broken down mulleted pitcher arent going to cut it.

 

 

 

You really need to stop blaming Hendry if he can't pull off a trade because another team is asking too much. Because you would be the first one to bash him if he gets ripped off in a deal.

 

The Padres are not asking for "too much." There is no "too much" for Jake freakin' Peavy!. Vitters, Pie, DeRosa, and Hart??? That's too much for one of the best pitchers in baseball? Pie is terrible, and will be just like Corey Patterson. Hart gets rocked every time out. DeRosa can easily be replaced by Fontenot and is only ours for 1 more year anyways. Vitters is a great prospect, but will NEVER be as valuable as a Jake Peavy. Jim needs to stop f'in playin around and get the deal done. Give them whatever needs to be included. Leave Marquis out of it. Just get the trade done then worry about adding the RF then worry about trading Marquis separately. A team will pay 5 million dollars for Marquis. Just get the trade done first! The longer they wait, the more Peavy will want out of SD and likely accept a trade to NY or LA.

[17 Seconds]

I know its likely just leverage, but I hate to see the Padres claiming 20% odds of this trade getting done.

 

I don't think that's leverage, since Churchill is not a reporter and doesn't post this anywhere. They'd have no reason to lie/posture to him. He's just a friend.

 

Who knows how legit that source is, though.

 

Somehow word got to Churchill through some sort of media connection that the Padres say that there was 20% chance of a trade happening. How is that not trying to get leverage?

Not sure why you'd assume Churchill's Padre info is coming "through some sort of media connection" rather than from someone within the SD org.

 

DISCLAIMER: I have no earthly clue where Churchill's getting his info, except for a mention a long while ago that he knows/communicates with someone in CHC's front office.

 

I know he has a Cubs contact, but I am assuming he is at the Winter Meetings, being a Mariners beat writer (correct?). So he has access to a lot of sources right now.

 

churchill owns a site called prespectinsider.com. He is in no eway associated with the Mariners. He just has connections.

 

I don't understand why you'd think the Padres would use him as leverage when he doesn't even post the info

[cubswin2009]

By the way, this was posted on another forum

 

Jessie Rogers reported all day on the score saying that this deal was pretty much falling apart all day. He even broke in one time on murphs show and on Bores and Berstine and said that it does not look like Peavy deal will get done at all let alone at the meetings. Murph went as far to say after Jessie went off the air with him that he thinks it is less then 50 50 that it gets done. Jessie even had lunch with Piniella and he sounded really confident in what he was saying.

Bruce had lunch with Piniella too and he didn't say anything about a deal falling apart.

[CP_414]

By the way, this was posted on another forum

 

Jessie Rogers reported all day on the score saying that this deal was pretty much falling apart all day. He even broke in one time on murphs show and on Bores and Berstine and said that it does not look like Peavy deal will get done at all let alone at the meetings. Murph went as far to say after Jessie went off the air with him that he thinks it is less then 50 50 that it gets done. Jessie even had lunch with Piniella and he sounded really confident in what he was saying.

 

All the reporters had lunch with Lou. Today was lunch with the manager day at the winter meetings. Why have none of the other reports said this?

 

I don't know if this is going to happen or not, but the only things that has me concerned tonight is Towers quotes. All these "insiders" have shown how much they know of the last few days/months/years...

[UMFan83]

I know its likely just leverage, but I hate to see the Padres claiming 20% odds of this trade getting done.

 

I don't think that's leverage, since Churchill is not a reporter and doesn't post this anywhere. They'd have no reason to lie/posture to him. He's just a friend.

 

Who knows how legit that source is, though.

 

Somehow word got to Churchill through some sort of media connection that the Padres say that there was 20% chance of a trade happening. How is that not trying to get leverage?

Not sure why you'd assume Churchill's Padre info is coming "through some sort of media connection" rather than from someone within the SD org.

 

DISCLAIMER: I have no earthly clue where Churchill's getting his info, except for a mention a long while ago that he knows/communicates with someone in CHC's front office.

 

I know he has a Cubs contact, but I am assuming he is at the Winter Meetings, being a Mariners beat writer (correct?). So he has access to a lot of sources right now.

 

churchill owns a site called prespectinsider.com. He is in no eway associated with the Mariners. He just has connections.

 

I don't understand why you'd think the Padres would use him as leverage when he doesn't even post the info

 

I didn't say they specifically used him as leverage. I'm saying he's probably at the meetings and heard some sort of misinformation that the Padres are putting out there.

[PrimeTime]

This is on the front page of Chicagosports.com..?? Is all he has to do is say Yes and this gets done?? This is all so confusing..

Jim Hendry declined to comment that Mark DeRosa was headed to Philadelphia for pitching prospects that would be sent to San Diego to complete a potential Peavy deal, but Phillies sources insisted a deal was in place and ready to go if the Cubs pull the trigger.

[17 Seconds]

I know its likely just leverage, but I hate to see the Padres claiming 20% odds of this trade getting done.

 

I don't think that's leverage, since Churchill is not a reporter and doesn't post this anywhere. They'd have no reason to lie/posture to him. He's just a friend.

 

Who knows how legit that source is, though.

 

Somehow word got to Churchill through some sort of media connection that the Padres say that there was 20% chance of a trade happening. How is that not trying to get leverage?

Not sure why you'd assume Churchill's Padre info is coming "through some sort of media connection" rather than from someone within the SD org.

 

DISCLAIMER: I have no earthly clue where Churchill's getting his info, except for a mention a long while ago that he knows/communicates with someone in CHC's front office.

 

I know he has a Cubs contact, but I am assuming he is at the Winter Meetings, being a Mariners beat writer (correct?). So he has access to a lot of sources right now.

 

churchill owns a site called prespectinsider.com. He is in no eway associated with the Mariners. He just has connections.

 

I don't understand why you'd think the Padres would use him as leverage when he doesn't even post the info

 

I didn't say they specifically used him as leverage. I'm saying he's probably at the meetings and heard some sort of misinformation that the Padres are putting out there.

 

Dude, Churchill is not at the meetings. He's not a reporter. He has connections because he is friends with these guys. He just told me the Padres guy is a member of their front office and he talked to him through e-mail. He said he'd bet on Peavy staying a Padre.

 

There is no reason whatsoever for them to lie to Churchill

[Cubswin11]

Who wants to bet we get a report sometime tonight/tomorrow saying a deal is imminent or on the verge of being done?

[Rob]

No offense to Churchill intended, but he seems too willing to pass along whatever he's heard. I'd trust him a bit more if he would try harder to verify things before sending em out to the rumor mill.

[JohnF]

Bruce Levine was just on ESPN 1000 with an update. He said that we should know in the next 48 hours if Peavy will be a Cub or not. He also mentioned that Towers thinks he can get seven or eight players for Peavy, but said the Cubs will only offer four or five. Also said that Padres want Marquis so that they can trade him off to another team to get another young player.

[Hall7810]

Bruce Miles, he isn't...but Levine was just on and didn't make it sound like this was a dead deal.

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No offense to Churchill intended, but he seems too willing to pass along whatever he's heard. I'd trust him a bit more if he would try harder to verify things before sending em out to the rumor mill.

 

I ask him what he has head and he respnds. It's as simple as that. He's not doing it because he wants to, he does it because I ask. He doesn't verifiy things or ask for detailed info usually because he doesn't care. He just tells me what he hears.

[17 Seconds]

Bruce Miles, he isn't...but Levine was just on and didn't make it sound like this was a dead deal.

 

But did he sound less optimistic than he was earlier? What did he say?

[cubswin2009]

Bruce Levine was just on ESPN 1000 with an update. He said that we should know in the next 48 hours if Peavy will be a Cub or not. He also mentioned that Towers thinks he can get seven or eight players for Peavy, but said the Cubs will only offer four or five. Also said that Padres want Marquis so that they can trade him off to another team to get another young player.

48 hours now? Sigh.