Tribune: Wood Signs Deal with Cleveland (p. 29)

[Gingerballs Lives]

I know Kerry was just being honest, but those weren't particularly helpful comments to make. Now the fans are pissed, Hendry looks bad, etc.

 

Well, if it's true, fans have every right to be pissed and Hendry should look bad.

 

A one-year deal should have been a no-brainer.

[Derwood]

Nevermind Edited November 14, 2008 by Derwood

[17 Seconds]

Now part of me hopes that our bullpen (Gregg especially) is a disaster next year.

 

YEAH! That'll show 'em!!!

 

I don't really want that to happen...but yes, it will show em. It will show Hendry that he made a huge mistake and he will have to take the deserved heat for it

[cubsfan26]

I think Jim Hendry closeness to Wood might have backfired on us this time around. I think Hendry kinda felt bad about only giving Wood a 1y-5m type of contract, when he could have gotten alot more. But I think part of Wood comments today is Wood trying to stay face with the fans. Now that he won't be back it's easy to say he would have accepted this or that. But during talks with Hendry, I bet they weren't talking about 1 year deals. I do still think the Cubs will offer Wood arbitration, because Wood I'm sure agree not to accept it. This article in the Tribune claims the Cubs were willing to bring Wood back at a one year deal. So Wood comments might not be truthful.

 

 

The Cubs were willing to sign Wood for one year, but knew he could get far more on the open market, with several teams in need of established closers

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-14-cubs-kerry-wood-chicagonov14,0,3004592.story

Edited November 14, 2008 by cubsfan26

[Derwood]

Now part of me hopes that our bullpen (Gregg especially) is a disaster next year.

 

YEAH! That'll show 'em!!!

 

I don't really want that to happen...but yes, it will show em. It will show Hendry that he made a huge mistake and he will have to take the deserved heat for it

 

and we'll suffer through a bad year and the window will be more shut. awesome

[17 Seconds]

I think Jim Hendry closeness to Wood might have backfired on us this time around. I think Hendry kinda felt bad about only giving Wood a 1y-5m type of contract, when he could have gotten alot more. But I think part of Wood comments today is Wood trying to stay face with the fans. Now that he won't be back it's easy to say he would have accepted this or that. But during talks with Hendry, I bet they weren't talking about 1 year deals. I do still think the Cubs will offer Wood arbitration, because Wood I'm sure agree not to accept it. This article in the Tribune claims the Cubs were willing to bring Wood back at a one year deal. So Wood comments might not be truthful.

 

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-14-cubs-kerry-wood-chicagonov14,0,3004592.story

 

That doesn't mean Wood's comments were untruthful. What Sullivan is saying is that Hendry would have given him a one year deal but didn't because he felt bad about being able to get more elsewhere.

 

It's obvious that hendry's feelings got in the way and he didn't do what was best for the team and organization. Bad way to run a team.

[17 Seconds]

Now part of me hopes that our bullpen (Gregg especially) is a disaster next year.

 

YEAH! That'll show 'em!!!

 

I don't really want that to happen...but yes, it will show em. It will show Hendry that he made a huge mistake and he will have to take the deserved heat for it

 

and we'll suffer through a bad year and the window will be more shut. awesome

 

i

already

said

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being

serious

 

Jesus.

[SouthSideRyan]

I know Kerry was just being honest, but those weren't particularly helpful comments to make. Now the fans are pissed, Hendry looks bad, etc.

 

Yeah(if those were his true feelings), he should've covered them up to protect the GM that just told him to screw off and look for work elsewhere.

[abuck1220]

I know Kerry was just being honest, but those weren't particularly helpful comments to make. Now the fans are pissed, Hendry looks bad, etc.

 

so? if true, the fans should be pissed.

[Jehrico]

Not sure if this was posted yet http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2008/11/wood-leaving-cu.html

 

While Wood was understanding about the Cubs' decision, which Hendry said was made in the best interests of Wood and his family, he did say he would've been amenable to staying and "would have done anything" to stay a Cub. The Cubs told him to go get a three- or four-year deal for more money, but Wood said he would've agreed to a one-year deal to stay.

:evil: ](*,) :x :flame: :sick:

[cubsfan26]

I think Jim Hendry closeness to Wood might have backfired on us this time around. I think Hendry kinda felt bad about only giving Wood a 1y-5m type of contract, when he could have gotten alot more. But I think part of Wood comments today is Wood trying to stay face with the fans. Now that he won't be back it's easy to say he would have accepted this or that. But during talks with Hendry, I bet they weren't talking about 1 year deals. I do still think the Cubs will offer Wood arbitration, because Wood I'm sure agree not to accept it. This article in the Tribune claims the Cubs were willing to bring Wood back at a one year deal. So Wood comments might not be truthful.

 

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-14-cubs-kerry-wood-chicagonov14,0,3004592.story

 

That doesn't mean Wood's comments were untruthful. What Sullivan is saying is that Hendry would have given him a one year deal but didn't because he felt bad about being able to get more elsewhere.

 

It's obvious that hendry's feelings got in the way and he didn't do what was best for the team and organization. Bad way to run a team.

 

 

I think Wood was asking for a 3 year deal, and the Cubs made it clear they were willing to do only a one year deal. I'm sure Wood wasn't willing to accept a one year deal since day one or the contract would have been done. In the long run Wood probably would have accepted a one year deal, rather then leave.(I think thats what his comments mean). But Hendry didn't think it was right for Wood to have to take the Cubs low ball offer, when they knew he wanted a 3 year deal and he could get one on the open market. I agree this isn't a good way to run a team, but it's not like Hendry is like this with every player. Hendry and Wood just have a big brother, litle brother type realtionship and are really close. Overall I think his closeness with Wood has helped us more then hurt us. Sadly this time it hurt us, but I never felt it was realistic for Wood to finsh his career with the Cubs.

Edited November 14, 2008 by cubsfan26

[imb]

this is really just almost impossible to understand. hendry would knowingly weaken the team because he wants kerry wood to make more money? Edited November 14, 2008 by Bunts Lick Butts

[JonnyRed]

If we passed on signing Kerry to a one-year deal, I'm going to be really pissed at Hendry. I totally understand not locking him up for 4 seasons, but if he was willing to sign a one-year deal, that's a no-brainer.

 

What I still don't get is the need to come out and publicly say the Cubs are moving on? Why not sit back, see what Woody can get and then decide?

[17 Seconds]

this is really just almost impossible to understand? hendry would knowingly weaken the team because he wants kerry wood to make more money?

 

If what we're reading is true, then Hendry let personal stuff get in the way of making the best decision for the organization, and that's pretty pathetic.

[UMFan83]

Not only is he weakening our team, but potentially improving a team he will be competing with next year. When all it took was a 1 year deal to keep him.

 

Hendry is putting Kerry Wood before the Cubs if everything that has been said is true.

Edited November 14, 2008 by UMFan83

[flyseye]

Now part of me hopes that our bullpen (Gregg especially) is a disaster next year.

 

you wish bad things upon your favorite team because your feelings are hurt? what kind of backwards logic is that?

 

because he wants their bad decisions to be punished instead of rewarded

 

i still don't agree with the notion, but i don't think it has anything to do with his feelings being hurt... he was totally fine with letting wood go before this snippet about him being open to a one year deal came out.

 

I don't know which is worse, the initial quoted post, or the 2nd reply.

 

I cannot believe that some posters on this board either:

 

(1) want to be right so badly that they wish ill upon members of their favorite team or,

 

(2) Have such a man crush on Wood that they would wish ill upon a member of their favorite team.

 

If Gregg comes over and accomplishes what ever Wood can accomplish at less than half the $$, then this is not a bad move,hurt feelings aside, correct ? I certainly do not see this as impossible, or even unlikely, as Wood was really not in the elite class last year in a position that most on this board feel is remarkably over rated to begin with.

 

I liked Wood, but not for 10 mil. I hope Gregg has a great year as a Cub. I hope Wood has a great year for whoever he pitches for, except against the Cubs.

[SouthSideRyan]

this is really just almost impossible to understand. hendry would knowingly weaken the team because he wants kerry wood to make more money?

 

Jim Hendry(or possibly Lou) think Kerry's a health risk and are throwing a tantrum about the 3 weeks he was on the DL this season. Because of this they didn't want him back under most any circumstances. This is my out of my ass theory. Basically they're playing the role of the moron Cub fans who want to get over Prior/Wood.

[17 Seconds]

this is really just almost impossible to understand. hendry would knowingly weaken the team because he wants kerry wood to make more money?

 

Jim Hendry(or possibly Lou) think Kerry's a health risk and are throwing a tantrum about the 3 weeks he was on the DL this season. Because of this they didn't want him back under most any circumstances. This is my out of my ass theory. Basically they're playing the role of the moron Cub fans who want to get over Prior/Wood.

 

If that was true then they wouldn't have re-signed him after 2007

[cubsfan26]

this is really just almost impossible to understand. hendry would knowingly weaken the team because he wants kerry wood to make more money?

 

Sounds like that could be it, unless the Cubs have concerns about Wood arm holding up again next year.

[imb]

this is really just almost impossible to understand. hendry would knowingly weaken the team because he wants kerry wood to make more money?

 

Jim Hendry(or possibly Lou) think Kerry's a health risk and are throwing a tantrum about the 3 weeks he was on the DL this season. Because of this they didn't want him back under most any circumstances. This is my out of my ass theory. Basically they're playing the role of the moron Cub fans who want to get over Prior/Wood.

 

i'm really at a loss. yesterday I was fine with everything, but finding out wood would have stayed for a 1-year deal is just hard to stomach.

[17 Seconds]

Now part of me hopes that our bullpen (Gregg especially) is a disaster next year.

 

you wish bad things upon your favorite team because your feelings are hurt? what kind of backwards logic is that?

 

because he wants their bad decisions to be punished instead of rewarded

 

i still don't agree with the notion, but i don't think it has anything to do with his feelings being hurt... he was totally fine with letting wood go before this snippet about him being open to a one year deal came out.

 

I don't know which is worse, the initial quoted post, or the 2nd reply.

 

I cannot believe that some posters on this board either:

 

(1) want to be right so badly that they wish ill upon members of their favorite team or,

 

(2) Have such a man crush on Wood that they would wish ill upon a member of their favorite team.

 

If Gregg comes over and accomplishes what ever Wood can accomplish at less than half the $$, then this is not a bad move,hurt feelings aside, correct ? I certainly do not see this as impossible, or even unlikely, as Wood was really not in the elite class last year in a position that most on this board feel is remarkably over rated to begin with.

 

I liked Wood, but not for 10 mil. I hope Gregg has a great year as a Cub. I hope Wood has a great year for whoever he pitches for, except against the Cubs.

 

I'll tell what's worse than both of those posts... someone who doesn't understand sarcasm

 

And for the 485th time, nothing I said (which again, was not a serious post) was because of some man crush on Wood. I was in favor of letting him go if we had to give him a multi-year contract. Letting him go when we could have had him for one year is a terrible move for this team, especially when you consider how much gregg is going to get in arbitration

 

Oh, and Gregg won't accomplish what Wood di, which is allow marmol to be used in the 8th where he;'s more valuable. We all know Marmol is going to close now....which make him less valuable and also makes him more expensive for the future

[SouthSideRyan]

this is really just almost impossible to understand. hendry would knowingly weaken the team because he wants kerry wood to make more money?

 

Jim Hendry(or possibly Lou) think Kerry's a health risk and are throwing a tantrum about the 3 weeks he was on the DL this season. Because of this they didn't want him back under most any circumstances. This is my out of my ass theory. Basically they're playing the role of the moron Cub fans who want to get over Prior/Wood.

 

If that was true then they wouldn't have re-signed him after 2007

 

True, I don't have an effin clue.

[Backtobanks]

If we passed on signing Kerry to a one-year deal, I'm going to be really pissed at Hendry. I totally understand not locking him up for 4 seasons, but if he was willing to sign a one-year deal, that's a no-brainer.

 

What I still don't get is the need to come out and publicly say the Cubs are moving on? Why not sit back, see what Woody can get and then decide?

 

Something about this whole story just doesn't make sense. Either someone is lying, the quotes are wrong, or there is miscommunication between Wood and his agent. I'm sure Hendry didn't just cut ties with Wood without discussing some kind of offer with his agent. Maybe the agent was talking 3/30 (figuring that he could get that elsewhere) and Hendry backed off without Wood being involved in the discussion. The bottom line is that if Wood will accept a 1 year deal, the Cubs should jump on it and use Gregg as the 7th inning guy with Marmol/Wood for the 8th and 9th.

[David]

Now part of me hopes that our bullpen (Gregg especially) is a disaster next year.

 

you wish bad things upon your favorite team because your feelings are hurt? what kind of backwards logic is that?

 

because he wants their bad decisions to be punished instead of rewarded

 

i still don't agree with the notion, but i don't think it has anything to do with his feelings being hurt... he was totally fine with letting wood go before this snippet about him being open to a one year deal came out.

 

I don't know which is worse, the initial quoted post, or the 2nd reply.

 

I cannot believe that some posters on this board either:

 

(1) want to be right so badly that they wish ill upon members of their favorite team or,

 

(2) Have such a man crush on Wood that they would wish ill upon a member of their favorite team.

 

If Gregg comes over and accomplishes what ever Wood can accomplish at less than half the $$, then this is not a bad move,hurt feelings aside, correct ? I certainly do not see this as impossible, or even unlikely, as Wood was really not in the elite class last year in a position that most on this board feel is remarkably over rated to begin with.

 

I liked Wood, but not for 10 mil. I hope Gregg has a great year as a Cub. I hope Wood has a great year for whoever he pitches for, except against the Cubs.

 

ummmmm what exactly is wrong with the second reply?

 

go ahead, explain it

 

for the record, i said i didn't agree with him. (at all) i was, however, better explaining dexter's position since derwood obviously didn't see where he was coming from.

Edited November 14, 2008 by David

[SouthSideRyan]

If the Cubs had Wood on a 1 year deal, they should trade Gregg for whatever. Don't compound the stupid trade to get him, by keeping him around to play an unimportant role for 5M.