4/15 - Bulls (41-40) vs. Toronto (32-49) - 7 pm, CSN

[RedFlash]

And I think we're going a little overboard with the Rose love. He's great and the rest of the Bulls should thank their lucky stars they even get to play with him. But proclaiming him better than Williams and Paul is premature. Wliliams is going to go down as one of the best point guards of his era and Paul is a top 20 of all time caliber player.

 

I hope Rose gets there but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

 

I not afraid to say it....Rose will be better then both Paul and Williams. Rose is already bigger and stronger then Paul, and faster and more athlethic then Deron Williams. So yes, I do think Rose will eventually be better then both Paul and Williams.

[David]

Very good first half outside of those first few minutes and the time that Hughes was in there.

 

Hughes needs to get hurt again or something. He's absolutely a negative when he's on the court.

[Garwilly]

Luol!

 

Board, Baseline to baseline, Bucket

[manbearcub]

Very good first half outside of those first few minutes and the time that Hughes was in there.

 

Hughes needs to get hurt again or something. He's absolutely a negative when he's on the court.

hey, he needs to please stop taking so many bad shots.

[UMFan83]

I turned it off when it was like 21-3 to watch the office. I turn back and they are winning at halftime!

[rawaction]

And I think we're going a little overboard with the Rose love. He's great and the rest of the Bulls should thank their lucky stars they even get to play with him. But proclaiming him better than Williams and Paul is premature. Wliliams is going to go down as one of the best point guards of his era and Paul is a top 20 of all time caliber player.

 

I hope Rose gets there but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

 

I not afraid to say it....Rose will be better then both Paul and Williams. Rose is already bigger and stronger then Paul, and faster and more athlethic then Deron Williams. So yes, I do think Rose will eventually be better then both Paul and Williams.

 

Same could be said about Mike Conley Jr.

[Guest]

I absolutely abhor Larry Hughes.

[UMFan83]

I absolutely abhor Larry Hughes.

 

It's too bad we don't have Scott Skiles as our coach anymore, as he would have already Tim Thomas'd him.

[Flames24Rulz]

Once again; pay Ben Gordon.

[David]

Is Derrick Rose going off in the 3rd? I saw his pts go from 2 to 10 on NBA.com from one glance to the next..

[Garwilly]

The possession at the 5:00 mark showed so many things wrong with how Gordon approaches a game.

[Magnetic Curses]

And I think we're going a little overboard with the Rose love. He's great and the rest of the Bulls should thank their lucky stars they even get to play with him. But proclaiming him better than Williams and Paul is premature. Wliliams is going to go down as one of the best point guards of his era and Paul is a top 20 of all time caliber player.

 

I hope Rose gets there but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

 

I not afraid to say it....Rose will be better then both Paul and Williams. Rose is already bigger and stronger then Paul, and faster and more athlethic then Deron Williams. So yes, I do think Rose will eventually be better then both Paul and Williams.

 

Same could be said about Mike Conley Jr.

 

as can be said about a lot of point guards in the league. paul's key gifts are his speed and athleticism while williams's attributes are his size and strength (and court vision). you can't say that rose is better based on the fact that he's better than those two in those particlular categories.

 

rose has a long way to go to measure up to the league's young marquee point guards. rose lacks the pure speed of paul and the court vision and instincts of williams and the handles of both--those are the skills and talents that make those two guys great. williams, btw, has a higher dribble than any other point guard in the league, it's hard to teach that kind of skill.

[chuckywang]

I was at the game today. Derrick Rose and Ben Gordon can stay. Demolish the rest of the team though, starting with Larry Hughes.

[Soul]

Hey, we beat the Mavs. Cool. How about a nice winning streak for a change?

[UMFan83]

Once again; pay Ben Gordon.

 

It's just too bad we can't even try to until the season is over :(

[Cynosure]

Didn't get to see the game last night but from what I hear BG was a monster.

[RedFlash]

And I think we're going a little overboard with the Rose love. He's great and the rest of the Bulls should thank their lucky stars they even get to play with him. But proclaiming him better than Williams and Paul is premature. Wliliams is going to go down as one of the best point guards of his era and Paul is a top 20 of all time caliber player.

 

I hope Rose gets there but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

 

I not afraid to say it....Rose will be better then both Paul and Williams. Rose is already bigger and stronger then Paul, and faster and more athlethic then Deron Williams. So yes, I do think Rose will eventually be better then both Paul and Williams.

 

Same could be said about Mike Conley Jr.

 

as can be said about a lot of point guards in the league. paul's key gifts are his speed and athleticism while williams's attributes are his size and strength (and court vision). you can't say that rose is better based on the fact that he's better than those two in those particlular categories.

 

rose has a long way to go to measure up to the league's young marquee point guards. rose lacks the pure speed of paul and the court vision and instincts of williams and the handles of both--those are the skills and talents that make those two guys great. williams, btw, has a higher dribble than any other point guard in the league, it's hard to teach that kind of skill.

 

I think his instincts are fine. So I'm not afraid to say it, I believe Rose will be a better PG then Paul and Williams. Before the draft I heard one comparasion I thought was intriguing (and it doesn't include Paul or Williams) is that one basketball site comapre Rose to a hybrid of Jason Kidd/Dwayne Wade.

 

So if Paxson doesn't screw it up, that when Rose finishes up his sopho season (which would be the offseason of themonster offseason) his play is going to be a MAJOR asset to the Bulls as they try to lure a big time free agent to Chicago. I'm not saying he will, but it wouldn't surprise me if by 2010, LBJ wants to play with a PG like Rose over heading East to a team like the Knicks or Nets.

[Mark_R]

If Gordon plays extremely well this half, I'm fairly certain he will be very sought after on the trade market. It would be in Pax's best interest to try and get rid of him while we can still get a lot of value for him.

[UMFan83]

If Gordon plays extremely well this half, I'm fairly certain he will be very sought after on the trade market. It would be in Pax's best interest to try and get rid of him while we can still get a lot of value for him.

 

I doubt it. Gordon has a full no-trade clause and loses his Bird Rights for his new team if he gets traded during the season. Also, the Bulls and Gordon cannot negotiate or sign a new deal until the season is over. Those are the terms of the Qualifying offer he signed. Pretty crappy situation the Bulls are in with Gordon.

 

Everyone is getting sky high about Gordon like he hasn't had stretches like this before.

[chuckywang]

If Gordon plays extremely well this half, I'm fairly certain he will be very sought after on the trade market. It would be in Pax's best interest to try and get rid of him while we can still get a lot of value for him.

 

I doubt it. Gordon has a full no-trade clause and loses his Bird Rights for his new team if he gets traded during the season. Also, the Bulls and Gordon cannot negotiate or sign a new deal until the season is over. Those are the terms of the Qualifying offer he signed. Pretty crappy situation the Bulls are in with Gordon.

 

Everyone is getting sky high about Gordon like he hasn't had stretches like this before.

 

I thought Bird Rights gets traded with the player. If Gordon has a full no-trade clause though, I guess it doesn't matter.

[UMFan83]

If Gordon plays extremely well this half, I'm fairly certain he will be very sought after on the trade market. It would be in Pax's best interest to try and get rid of him while we can still get a lot of value for him.

 

I doubt it. Gordon has a full no-trade clause and loses his Bird Rights for his new team if he gets traded during the season. Also, the Bulls and Gordon cannot negotiate or sign a new deal until the season is over. Those are the terms of the Qualifying offer he signed. Pretty crappy situation the Bulls are in with Gordon.

 

Everyone is getting sky high about Gordon like he hasn't had stretches like this before.

 

I thought Bird Rights gets traded with the player. If Gordon has a full no-trade clause though, I guess it doesn't matter.

 

No, these are all terms for agreeing to the Qualifying Offer that he accepted in October. If you agree to the qualifying offer, 3 things happen:

 

1) The player cannot negotiate or resign with his current team until he becomes an unrestricted free agent after the season

2) The player gets the right to veto any trade involving him

3) If the player does accept the trade, he loses his Bird Rights with his new team.

 

If he stays on the Bulls all season and chooses to resign, he will still retain his Bird Rights with the Bulls however.

 

It's a really weird position to be in. If he plays awesome and the Bulls decide they want him long term, they are going to have to outbid any team with cap space to sign him.

Edited November 14, 2008 by UMFan83

[Derwood]

i don't know if this team is worth watching in standard def [-(

[ChiCubsFan]

we're gonna lose Gordon and get nothing back or have to way overpay. pretty crappy situation to be in.

[David]

For anyone who doesn't realize it, the Bulls have played one of the hardest (as of the other night it was the hardest, but I'm not sure if that has changed or not) schedules in the NBA.

 

They're 4-5. I had them starting 5-12. A lot of people did.

 

The start they've had is a lot more impressive than people realize.

[ChiCubsFan]

For anyone who doesn't realize it, the Bulls have played one of the hardest (as of the other night it was the hardest, but I'm not sure if that has changed or not) schedules in the NBA.

 

They're 4-5. I had them starting 5-12. A lot of people did.

 

The start they've had is a lot more impressive than people realize.

 

I agree with this.