Soriano Postseason Numbers

[apete6]

Apparently Soriano has the lowest batting average of anyone with over 100 postseason at bats with a whopping .212 average. This tells us 2 things:

 

1. His teams are usually good enough in the regular season to make the playoffs.

 

2. Once they are there, he Howrys himself and the terrible holes in his swing are exposed.

[Drew Doughty]

or he's just the streakiest hitter on the planet and hasn't had the good fortune of getting hot in a playoff series. if the holes are so easily exposed then pitchers would just do it to him all the time.

[XZero771679666304]

or he's just the streakiest hitter on the planet and hasn't had the good fortune of getting hot in a playoff series. if the holes are so easily exposed then pitchers would just do it to him all the time.

 

I don't know. I think Alfonso does a lot of damage on mistake pitches. I think if pitchers really bore down in every regular season game and did nothing but pitch off the lower outside corner, Sori would in trouble.

[ConstableRabbit]

or he's just the streakiest hitter on the planet and hasn't had the good fortune of getting hot in a playoff series. if the holes are so easily exposed then pitchers would just do it to him all the time.

 

I don't know. I think Alfonso does a lot of damage on mistake pitches. I think if pitchers really bore down in every regular season game and did nothing but pitch off the lower outside corner, Sori would in trouble.

If that were the case, he wouldn't have excellent career numbers against some very good pitchers, inc. CC.

[MajikRat]

While I completely agree about the ineptness of Soriano as a lead-off hitter, why does everybody fail to mention the equally epic failure of Aramis Ramirez in the post-season. I know he is loved on this board, and I admit I am big fan myself. But let's call a spade a spade - he has not gotten the job done the last two Octobers. Your cleanup hitter is a combined 2-for-23 with 1 lousy RBI in the last 2 post-seasons. And he did leave 7 men on base this year alone.

 

So for all the arguing over who to point the finger of blame at, I think Ramirez deserves to be at the top of the list as much as any of them.

 

 

Year G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG

+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+

2007 NLDS 3 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 .000 .077 .000

2008 NLDS 3 11 1 2 1 0 0 0 1 2 .182 .250 .273

+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+

4 Post Series 18 67 7 13 2 1 4 10 9 15 .194 .299 .433

+---------------------+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+

[Irrelevant Dude]

or he's just the streakiest hitter on the planet and hasn't had the good fortune of getting hot in a playoff series. if the holes are so easily exposed then pitchers would just do it to him all the time.

 

I don't know. I think Alfonso does a lot of damage on mistake pitches. I think if pitchers really bore down in every regular season game and did nothing but pitch off the lower outside corner, Sori would in trouble.

I agree with this. Soriano is a fastball and mistake pitch hitter, but he really struggles against good pitchers who can locate their breaking pitches. This is just my opinion with no statistical backing, but I'm guessing that pitchers try to get away with pitches in the regular season that they wouldn't throw in a crucial playoff game. A 21 year old rookie pitcher on the Pirates is likely just worried about getting ahead in the count, while a veteran pitcher in the playoffs has enough confidence to not throw Soriano any hittable pitches. Unfortunately, I think this is just what we're going to get out of Soriano. He will help the Cubs win stretches of regular season games, but can't be relied upon in the playoffs.

[Sammy Sofa]

While I completely agree about the ineptness of Soriano as a lead-off hitter

 

If the goal of a leadoff hitter is to generate runs, Soriano is not "inept."

[Cynosure]

Glad he decided to show up in his first 6 playoff games with the Cubs.

[Soul]

Outside of a few Lee hits and a DeRo homer, who else was so great in the postseason that we should pile on Soriano to the exclusion of everyone else?

[YearofDaCubs]

Outside of a few Lee hits and a DeRo homer, who else was so great in the postseason that we should pile on Soriano to the exclusion of everyone else?

It's not just Soriano that I'm pissed at it's also Ramirez. Those two clowns take the cake the past 2 years. They are the highest paid players, arguably our best hitters and both of them offered nothing in the playoffs.

[hardcorecubfan]

While I completely agree about the ineptness of Soriano as a lead-off hitter, why does everybody fail to mention the equally epic failure of Aramis Ramirez in the post-season. I know he is loved on this board, and I admit I am big fan myself. But let's call a spade a spade - he has not gotten the job done the last two Octobers. Your cleanup hitter is a combined 2-for-23 with 1 lousy RBI in the last 2 post-seasons. And he did leave 7 men on base this year alone.

 

So for all the arguing over who to point the finger of blame at, I think Ramirez deserves to be at the top of the list as much as any of them.

 

 

Year G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG

+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+

2007 NLDS 3 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 5 .000 .077 .000

2008 NLDS 3 11 1 2 1 0 0 0 1 2 .182 .250 .273

+------+-----+---+---+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+

4 Post Series 18 67 7 13 2 1 4 10 9 15 .194 .299 .433

+---------------------+-----+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+

 

I don't believe he is ignored, we just haven't pounced yet. It was incredible at the beginning of the year the top of the lineup didn't hit and the bottom held us up but 8 guys going flat all in the same week is bad.....sorry Fontenot not you

[wrigley23]

If the goal of a leadoff hitter is to generate runs, Soriano is not "inept."

He's not? OK...how many runs has the ultimate leadoff hitter produced in the postseason the last two years? There is your answer.

[imb]

*does forums search for SORIANO*

 

*froths at the mouth*

 

*posts*

 

*leaves for a month*

[David]

*does forums search for SORIANO*

 

*froths at the mouth*

 

*posts*

 

*leaves for a month*

 

 

 

hahahahhaahhahahha

[Sammy Sofa]

If the goal of a leadoff hitter is to generate runs, Soriano is not "inept."

 

He's not? OK...how many runs has the ultimate leadoff hitter produced in the postseason the last two years? There is your answer.

 

So a player's worth over a 162-game season is defined by their playoff performance.

 

I guess we can chalk up the Cubs' paltry postseason offense as a team the last two seasons to Soriano hitting leadoff.

 

Makes perfect sense.

[Derwood]

someone saw the Soriano Thread Beacon from their troll cave....

[samhainn77]

Outside of a few Lee hits and a DeRo homer, who else was so great in the postseason that we should pile on Soriano to the exclusion of everyone else?

 

I agree, this hate is disproportionate. The whole team sucked collectively. Soriano was awful at the plate...but so was everyone not named Lee or Derosa. You'd think Soriano walked the bases loaded and then gave up a grand slam, or made 2 (should have been 3) errors leading to 5 avoidable runs.

[sneakypower]

so is the inference here that a player can simply focus more and thusly be able to just spray line drives all over the park at will when the playoffs roll around?

 

that seems incredibly insane

[wrigley23]

There is a reason Soriano was ran out of Texas & New York & will eventually be in Chicago as well. He is very overrated as a hitter as he piles on lefty's & righty's that lack off speed pitches. He is one of the league leaders in fly balls...something you do not want your leadoff hitter to do...same goes for strikeouts. He is not much of a threat on the basepaths any more & has never been one to understand the mentality of taking pitches at the top of the lineup. Have I mentioned he's a poor outfielder? He hit .250 against right handed pitching this year w/ a .312 obp. His playoff performances speak for themselves. One thing is for sure...he will not be the Cubs leadoff hitter next year. You can bash me all you want geniuses, but this offense has proven it is flawed when it counts & will be fixed.

[imb]

*claims soriano sucks on the bases*

 

*wants ryan theriot to lead off*

 

*checks baseball reference*

 

*explodes*

[Sammy Sofa]

How is he not a troll?

[Derwood]

stupid broken best offense in the NL

[anabiono]

looking at soriano's numbers...all it would take would be one soriano hot streak in the playoffs and his numbers would look pretty decent overall

 

here is to him having that hot streak in 2009!

 

:good:

[wrigley23]

How is he not a troll?

How are you not an idiot? I am no more a troll than those that stick their head in the sand & claim we just ironically had a bad series...just like last year. How ironic would that be?

[Derwood]

How is he not a troll?

How are you not an idiot? I am no more a troll than those that stick their head in the sand & claim we just ironically had a bad series...just like last year. How ironic would that be?

 

6 games vs. 323 games