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Hopefully the Angels don't get involved because it sounds like he'd be Jake's first choice after the Dodgers

 

That's a good point.

 

Donnie: I don't suppose you got any sense of where his NL preference stood in comparison to other factors, did you?

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No, we didn't talk about names at all even if he would know something like that. My guess based on our conversations is 90% that he'll be a Cub.
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No, we didn't talk about names at all even if he would know something like that. My guess based on our conversations is 90% that he'll be a Cub.

 

He better be, with the way Hendry f'ed up with Kerry Wood.

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His NL preferences (assuming he is definitely being moved) are L.A.D. and the Cubs and he as much as said he wouldn't be willing to go anywhere else.
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I'm curious why Peavy would have put the Braves on his list of teams he'd be willing to be traded to. Maybe he saw that some of the stud players that the Braves would be packaging back would put him on a team that probably wasn't going to win anything for awhile.
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I'm curious why Peavy would have put the Braves on his list of teams he'd be willing to be traded to. Maybe he saw that some of the stud players that the Braves would be packaging back would put him on a team that probably wasn't going to win anything for awhile.

That could be it, or they may have been a team that he initially thought would be okay when Towers approached him and he could have just changed his mind over the past few weeks. Hopefully he doesn't change his mind again and sticks to his guns (& what he told me).

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I sure hope he was being sincere, and not just telling a Cubs fan what he wanted to hear. From what you say Donnie, Jake dosen't seem like that kind of guy.
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My trade preposal de-jour:

 

Pads get:

Sean Marshall

Kevin Gregg

Felix Pie

Ryan Theriot

1 or 2 negotiable prospects

 

Cubs get:

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

Yeah, I know it sounds like every other preposal, substituting Ceda with Gregg, but there has to be some reason that Hendry sent one of his top 3 prospects and trade chips for a slightly above average 30 year old reliever with 1 year under team control.

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My trade preposal de-jour:

 

Pads get:

Sean Marshall

Kevin Gregg

Felix Pie

Ryan Theriot

1 or 2 negotiable prospects

 

Cubs get:

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

You forgot to add that Wood signs a 1 year deal.

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My trade preposal de-jour:

 

Pads get:

Sean Marshall

Kevin Gregg

Felix Pie

Ryan Theriot

1 or 2 negotiable prospects

 

Cubs get:

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

You forgot to add that Wood signs a 1 year deal.

 

And that Greene isn't included because he sucks.

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My trade preposal de-jour:

 

Pads get:

Sean Marshall

Kevin Gregg

Felix Pie

Ryan Theriot

1 or 2 negotiable prospects

 

Cubs get:

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

Yeah, I know it sounds like every other preposal, substituting Ceda with Gregg, but there has to be some reason that Hendry sent one of his top 3 prospects and trade chips for a slightly above average 30 year old reliever with 1 year under team control.

 

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them

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My trade preposal de-jour:

 

Pads get:

Sean Marshall

Kevin Gregg

Felix Pie

Ryan Theriot

1 or 2 negotiable prospects

 

Cubs get:

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

Yeah, I know it sounds like every other preposal, substituting Ceda with Gregg, but there has to be some reason that Hendry sent one of his top 3 prospects and trade chips for a slightly above average 30 year old reliever with 1 year under team control.

 

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them

 

Your probably right, but Im just baffled about the Gregg trade otherwise. Greggs not particularly bad, and Im not saying that Cedas is the next K Rod, but he was one of our top trade chips, and we traded him for a guy who we really had little to no use for, with 1 year under team control.

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My trade preposal de-jour:

 

Pads get:

Sean Marshall

Kevin Gregg

Felix Pie

Ryan Theriot

1 or 2 negotiable prospects

 

Cubs get:

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

Yeah, I know it sounds like every other preposal, substituting Ceda with Gregg, but there has to be some reason that Hendry sent one of his top 3 prospects and trade chips for a slightly above average 30 year old reliever with 1 year under team control.

 

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them

 

Your probably right, but Im just baffled about the Gregg trade otherwise. Greggs not particularly bad, and Im not saying that Cedas is the next K Rod, but he was one of our top trade chips, and we traded him for a guy who we really had little to no use for, with 1 year under team control.

 

It could be that for once Hendry traded a player while his value was the highest, and got a decent return for someone he didn't see fitting into the Cubs plans in the future.

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Well the Padres might see Gregg as a guy who could have a good amount of value at the trade deadline. The Marlins probably made a mistake of holding on to him until the offseason. In July and early August Gregg numbers were pretty good, and they probably could have gotten more then Jose Ceda for him. Teams always need late inning relievers, and pitching in Petco would probably only improve his numbers. Even if they didn't find a taker at the deadline, he's most likely to get them some draft picks at the end of the season. That said, I don't think the Cubs are looking to trade him, and will use him in the 8th or 9th inning this year. The Cubs saw Gregg as a cheap one year replacement for Wood, hopefully by next year guys like Guzman, Ascanio and Samardzija(if he's not starting) are ready to take over in the late innings.
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My trade preposal de-jour:

 

Pads get:

Sean Marshall

Kevin Gregg

Felix Pie

Ryan Theriot

1 or 2 negotiable prospects

 

Cubs get:

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

Yeah, I know it sounds like every other preposal, substituting Ceda with Gregg, but there has to be some reason that Hendry sent one of his top 3 prospects and trade chips for a slightly above average 30 year old reliever with 1 year under team control.

 

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them

 

Your probably right, but Im just baffled about the Gregg trade otherwise. Greggs not particularly bad, and Im not saying that Cedas is the next K Rod, but he was one of our top trade chips, and we traded him for a guy who we really had little to no use for, with 1 year under team control.

 

It could be that for once Hendry traded a player while his value was the highest, and got a decent return for someone he didn't see fitting into the Cubs plans in the future.

 

He may have traded him while his value was highest, but he didn't get true value for him. He basically gave him away for a mediocre reliever who will make millions next year.

 

It doesn't matter if he doesn't fit into the Cubs plans, he still has value that can be used. I can't stand when people use that argument.

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My trade preposal de-jour:

 

Pads get:

Sean Marshall

Kevin Gregg

Felix Pie

Ryan Theriot

1 or 2 negotiable prospects

 

Cubs get:

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

Yeah, I know it sounds like every other preposal, substituting Ceda with Gregg, but there has to be some reason that Hendry sent one of his top 3 prospects and trade chips for a slightly above average 30 year old reliever with 1 year under team control.

 

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them

 

Your probably right, but Im just baffled about the Gregg trade otherwise. Greggs not particularly bad, and Im not saying that Cedas is the next K Rod, but he was one of our top trade chips, and we traded him for a guy who we really had little to no use for, with 1 year under team control.

 

 

 

What are you confused about? The Cubs wanted a late inning reliever, with closer experience, who didn't cost alot, to replace Wood. The Cubs had to cut back somewere and decided to do it in the bullpen, so they can have a better rotation and line-up. Having Gregg for one year is also a bonus, since he will likely give us some draft picks when he leaves, and it also allows time for some of our younger relievers to proven themselves. Gregg will be pitching in the 8th or 9th so we will have use for him. Trading Ceda was risky, but he doesn't have that great of value around the league anyways.

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My trade preposal de-jour:

 

Pads get:

Sean Marshall

Kevin Gregg

Felix Pie

Ryan Theriot

1 or 2 negotiable prospects

 

Cubs get:

Jake Peavy

Khalil Greene

 

Yeah, I know it sounds like every other preposal, substituting Ceda with Gregg, but there has to be some reason that Hendry sent one of his top 3 prospects and trade chips for a slightly above average 30 year old reliever with 1 year under team control.

 

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them

 

Your probably right, but Im just baffled about the Gregg trade otherwise. Greggs not particularly bad, and Im not saying that Cedas is the next K Rod, but he was one of our top trade chips, and we traded him for a guy who we really had little to no use for, with 1 year under team control.

 

It could be that for once Hendry traded a player while his value was the highest, and got a decent return for someone he didn't see fitting into the Cubs plans in the future.

 

He may have traded him while his value was highest, but he didn't get true value for him. He basically gave him away for a mediocre reliever who will make millions next year.

 

It doesn't matter if he doesn't fit into the Cubs plans, he still has value that can be used. I can't stand when people use that argument.

 

 

True value is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously, Hendry values Ceda a lot less than we do. Until Ceda comes to the major leagues and puts up numbers better than Gregg, I will give Hendry the benefit of the doubt. Plus, the Cubs got Ceda for basically nothing.

 

One of the reasons I like this move is that Hendry is being proactive early in the off season. With Gregg the Cubs have at least one solid bullpen arm guaranteed. If Gregg were in the Cubs pen last year he would have had the third best WHIP behind Wood and Marmol. If he has a similar season in 2009, he is an upgrade over every other pitcher in the pen. Hendry still has time to go out and get some other arms, but he is not held hostage in free agency.

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