Jake Peavy: Available.

[OleMissCub]

Who is going to step up and match the offense he provided?

 

Corky Miller. Book it.

 

 

:)

[David]

Can you guys stop saying over exaggerating?

[17 Seconds]

Why on earth would someone rather be on the Braves than the Cubs right now (assuming that winning is any priority)?

 

Maybe he watched the last 2 Octobers

 

You mean the ones that Chipper Jones was watching on TV?

 

I'm just saying.. it's not ridiculous to think that a guy who wants to win a title might not think his best chance is with a Cubs team that could not handle the moment 2 years in a row. Keep in mind that he's under contract for at least 4 more years. The Braves will probably be in a better situation than the Cubs 2-3 years from now.

[mdwilla]

Bruce are the CUbs targeting both dempster and peavy or either or? If Wood lweaves do they replace him in-house?

[David]

Why on earth would someone rather be on the Braves than the Cubs right now (assuming that winning is any priority)?

 

Maybe he watched the last 2 Octobers

 

You mean the ones that Chipper Jones was watching on TV?

 

I'm just saying.. it's not ridiculous to think that a guy who wants to win a title might not think his best chance is with a Cubs team that could not handle the moment 2 years in a row. Keep in mind that he's under contract for at least 4 more years. The Braves will probably be in a better situation than the Cubs 2-3 years from now.

 

I doubt that. Beyond that, maybe. MAYBE.

[17 Seconds]

The Braves are in a rebuilding phase right now. They were 20 games back last year. If he wants to come to a place where a sub 3 ERA won't net you a losing record in 30 starts, then come to Chicago Jake!

 

They were 20 games back because they had an insanely large amount of significant injuries. If they get Peavy and make a couple other moves they will compete for the division in 2009.

 

And the significant injuries were to oft-injured soon-to-be 37 year old Chipper Jones, nearly dead John Smoltz, always injured Mike Hampton, already dead Tom Glavine and it was bound to happen sooner or later Tim Hudson. You can assume another 40 innings out of Hudson next year, but none of those other major injuries were at all flukish or unexpected, and they can't expect any of them to produce more in 2009 than they did in 2008. Atlanta needs a lot of help.

 

There were a lot more injuries than those guys you mentioned.

 

Those were the ones that made a difference. Name guys who were flukishly injured that can be expected to return healthy next year and perform better than they did this year. That's the only way you can pretend they are a couple moves away from contending again.

 

I think you're really over exaggerating how bad they were last season and really underestimating how bad injuries destroyed their pen. Peavy/Hudson/Jurrjens/Campillo/whoever can win if guys like Mike Gonzalez and Rafael Soriano stay healthy. They were only -25 in run differential last season and they pretty much mailed it in and shut guys down in the second half. Peavy, maybe another bat, and good health has that team competing in 2009.

 

I don't think he's overexaggerating at all. You're only listing the pitching staff. They don't have Teixiera anymore. Who is going to step up and match the offense he provided?

 

That's why I said they needed another bat. Plus it's not like they got a ton out of Tex. They got a .902 OPS for 381 at-bats and then got literally nothing out of Kotchman for the next 2 months.

 

They got .279/.378/.458 (.836) out of 1B last season. How hard is that to replace?

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[17 Seconds]

Why on earth would someone rather be on the Braves than the Cubs right now (assuming that winning is any priority)?

 

Maybe he watched the last 2 Octobers

 

You mean the ones that Chipper Jones was watching on TV?

 

I'm just saying.. it's not ridiculous to think that a guy who wants to win a title might not think his best chance is with a Cubs team that could not handle the moment 2 years in a row. Keep in mind that he's under contract for at least 4 more years. The Braves will probably be in a better situation than the Cubs 2-3 years from now.

 

I doubt that. Beyond that, maybe. MAYBE.

 

You're not concerned about all the aging Cubs players and backloaded contracts? The offense could be a huge mess in a few years. I'd say the window for this group is closing.

[David]

And that window is, IMO, 2-3 years, not 1.

 

Even as the offense regresses a bit, a team with a pitching staff Peavy, Harden (assuming he does well this year and they keep him), and Zambrano doesn't need the league's best offense to not lose a ton of games.

[Ryno is God 23]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

Thanks for stopping by, Bruce. What percentage would you give to this getting done? 50/50...better than 50/50?

 

I think the chances are better than 50/50. Unlike the Orioles, the Padres must move Peavy. They'd also like to get it done before the free-agent market opens. It's pretty much in the Padres' court now. It all depends on whose offer Towers likes.

 

Wait... better than 50/50 that he gets traded to the Cubs, or better than 50/50 that he gets traded period?

 

It is 100% he gets traded...better than 50/50 he goes to the Cubs.

[wade]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

Scrambled, over easy, sunny side up or Ostrich?

 

You don't read very well.

 

How do you figure?

[17 Seconds]

And that window is, IMO, 2-3 years, not 1.

 

Even as the offense regresses a bit, a team with a pitching staff Peavy, Harden (assuming he does well this year and they keep him), and Zambrano doesn't need the league's best offense to not lose a ton of games.

 

Didn't I just say the window was 2-3 years?

 

And come on... you're really counting on Harden long term?

 

Really I'm terrified about the offense. Every key player other than Soto is old and many of them have shown signs of decline.

[17 Seconds]

Samardzija has a FULL no-trade clause, and he in no way will be part of this deal. The Fontenot speculation is premature. The Cubs have not offered him. I don't know if the Padres have asked for him, but the Cubs don't want to trade him (but they would if the Pads insisted).

 

Thanks for stopping by, Bruce. What percentage would you give to this getting done? 50/50...better than 50/50?

 

I think the chances are better than 50/50. Unlike the Orioles, the Padres must move Peavy. They'd also like to get it done before the free-agent market opens. It's pretty much in the Padres' court now. It all depends on whose offer Towers likes.

 

Wait... better than 50/50 that he gets traded to the Cubs, or better than 50/50 that he gets traded period?

 

It is 100% he gets traded...better than 50/50 he goes to the Cubs.

 

Are you sure? It was hard to tell and I didn't think the odds were actually in favor of the Cubs getting him.

[David]

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[David]

And that window is, IMO, 2-3 years, not 1.

 

Even as the offense regresses a bit, a team with a pitching staff Peavy, Harden (assuming he does well this year and they keep him), and Zambrano doesn't need the league's best offense to not lose a ton of games.

 

Didn't I just say the window was 2-3 years?

 

And come on... you're really counting on Harden long term?

 

Really I'm terrified about the offense. Every key player other than Soto is old and many of them have shown signs of decline.

 

I had a brain cramp, trying to get work done here MAN, JEEZ...

[rchap24]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

[David]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

 

Ok, so it was Marshall. I don't think he said OR, though. That would be a felony (both would be a misdemeanor).

[Post Count Padder]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

If we end up only giving up Pie, Cedeno, Atkins, someone like Veal, and another prospect...I may faint.

[YearofDaCubs]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

Sounds good to me!

[Soul]

I'm soooooo not ready for another one of these roller coaster trade deals right now. Please end this quickly one way or the other.

[rchap24]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

Sounds good to me!

 

I'd take that in a second...And heck it leaves us a small possibility to still get Roberts

[Guest]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

 

Ok, so it was Marshall. I don't think he said OR, though. That would be a felony (both would be a misdemeanor).

 

Haha, Marshall or Atkins? I wonder who I'd take...

[MSG T]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

Sounds good to me!

 

I'd take that in a second...And heck it leaves us a small possibility to still get Roberts

 

Oh no you didn't. [-X

[David]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

Sounds good to me!

 

I'd take that in a second...And heck it leaves us a small possibility to still get Roberts

 

Levine reported that he talked to MacPhail at the meetings and Roberts isn't on the market and that they're trying to lock him up long term. The people talking about Roberts this offseason have just been rehashing stuff from last year.

 

If they can't get anything done with him, though, talks may be revisited further along down the road.

[rchap24]

Levine just reported that the deal will involve Pie, Cedeno, and Marshall or Mitch Atkins

Sounds good to me!

 

I'd take that in a second...And heck it leaves us a small possibility to still get Roberts

 

Oh no you didn't. [-X

 

Ha am I going to start a Peavy/Roberts thread!!!!!!!!!

[Moises a loo]

So is this a good time to bring up the Jimmy Rollins thing?