Jake Peavy: Available.

[Jehrico]

So let me understand correctly. Brewerfan is OK with giving up Fielder, Hardy, Hart & Gwyn for Peavy? WOWSERS!

 

I think that Hardy, Hart & Parra is WAY overboard for Peavy. Look at the Haren deal last offseason. The A's got talent but got more quantity than quality. If memory serves, they got 1 B+ prospect and several B-to C- players

 

There is no way that Peavy brings back a huge haul like Haren or Bedard. A deal for Pie, Marshall & Ceda would be more then fair.

Haren was traded after a breakout season. Peavy has been outstanding for several years now and is a perennial Cy Young candidate, not to mention he won it in '07. What the A's got for Haren isn't a good comparison to what the Padres should expect for Peavy.

[nilodnayr]

So let me understand correctly. Brewerfan is OK with giving up Fielder, Hardy, Hart & Gwyn for Peavy? WOWSERS!

 

I think that Hardy, Hart & Parra is WAY overboard for Peavy. Look at the Haren deal last offseason. The A's got talent but got more quantity than quality. If memory serves, they got 1 B+ prospect and several B-to C- players

 

There is no way that Peavy brings back a huge haul like Haren or Bedard. A deal for Pie, Marshall & Ceda would be more then fair.

Haren was traded after a breakout season. Peavy has been outstanding for several years now and is a perennial Cy Young candidate, not to mention he won it in '07. What the A's got for Haren isn't a good comparison to what the Padres should expect for Peavy.

 

The Danny Haren trade actually is a great comp. While Haren is a tick below Peavy in talent and was under team control for 3 years instead of 5, you have to look at the production vs cost of those years they are under control. As of the Haren trade, he was under contract from 2008 at 4M, 2009 at 5.5M and 2010 at a 6.75M club option. Making for a total of 3 years of Haren at 16.25M. Peavy's deal is 5/78M (assuming option is picked up). Peavy's deal is very team friendly in year 1, but escalates significantly in 2010. Its still below market value, but by somewhere around 3-5M a year, whereas Haren is being compensated under market value by roughly 10M/year. If you add up all the years, Haren over 3 years and Peavy over 5 years, (even though Peavy is more years) are worth about the same under market value in total. Throw in that Haren (while not being the caliber of Peavy) was going to be paid roughly 5M as opposed to roughly 15M leaving more of a scarce resource ($) to be utilized elsewhere as well as the fact that with pitchers you always have a heightened injury risk so a 3 year contract is inherently less risky than a 5 year contract, and that skews to Haren being a better deal. I would also be remiss to not point out that the scarceness of positions (ie 25 man roster, 5 Starting Pitchers) means that Pitcher A being twince as good as Pitcher B means that pitcher A is worth quite a bit MORE THAN twice as much as Pitcher B, so that skews more to Peavy's side, but IMO, not enough to make Peavy an overall more attractive option. Now of course as Paul pointed out, each player has a different value to different teams and it takes two to tango which people take for granted.

 

Additionally on the other side of the ledger, from the SD perspective I would have to imagine that a Haren-like package would be what they would be looking for, as opposed to say a Sabathia-like package of one super stud prospect). Jake Peavy in and of himself is not going to make the Padres a playoff contender. Similarly, that extra 15M and a Matt LaPorta-like player aren't going to propel the Padres into playoff contention. The Padres should be looking for a very highly regarded top prospect (like Carlos Gonzalez) surrounded by a package of very interesting prospects (like the rest of that package). One guy isn't a difference maker for the Padres, they have a lot of holes and need a lot of cheap, high potential production in order to be able to compete in the next few years. Oakland has laid down the blue print that SD should be following.

[Ball And Glove]

So let me understand correctly. Brewerfan is OK with giving up Fielder, Hardy, Hart & Gwyn for Peavy? WOWSERS!

 

I think that Hardy, Hart & Parra is WAY overboard for Peavy. Look at the Haren deal last offseason. The A's got talent but got more quantity than quality. If memory serves, they got 1 B+ prospect and several B-to C- players

 

There is no way that Peavy brings back a huge haul like Haren or Bedard. A deal for Pie, Marshall & Ceda would be more then fair.

 

There seem to be some that would do whatever it takes to get Peavy, and there's some that are concerned about completely gutting the system over the span of about 6 months with the Sabathia and Peavy deals.

 

The players you mentioned are being brought up for various reasons -- it's pretty obvious that Fielder's gone once he's served his time in Milwaukee (and he and Boras are treating it like a prison sentence), and a lot of people are fed up with his atrocious defense. Hardy's great and has the potential to be a legend in Milwaukee, but Escobar is expected to be banging down the door in a year or two, and he's about to get very expensive in arby, so there's some that think the Brewers should sell high. A lot of people are down on Hart after he finished the year at .268/.300/.459 -- some are treating him like some of you guys treat Fukudome, and while a lot of people wanted him locked up long-term before this season started, a lot of people seem to want him gone for whatever reason. Gwynn is Juan Pierre without the doubles power...he's virtually worthless, but a lot of people seem to be tricking themselves into thinking the Brewers could sucker the Padres into taking him because the name could draw people to the park.

 

All together, yeah, the Brewers would be overpaying by a ton. I don't think it's fair to compare it to the Haren deal because Billy Beane was looking for tons of minor leaguers, not necessarily major league players like Towers seems to want. I think a Peavy deal (regardless of who ends up getting him) is more likely to look like the Bedard deal -- a couple guys who can help out at the Major League level in 2009 and a good pitching prospect or two. Seattle overpaid for Bedard, but that kind of package would make sense for Peavy.

[nilodnayr]

So let me understand correctly. Brewerfan is OK with giving up Fielder, Hardy, Hart & Gwyn for Peavy? WOWSERS!

 

I think that Hardy, Hart & Parra is WAY overboard for Peavy. Look at the Haren deal last offseason. The A's got talent but got more quantity than quality. If memory serves, they got 1 B+ prospect and several B-to C- players

 

There is no way that Peavy brings back a huge haul like Haren or Bedard. A deal for Pie, Marshall & Ceda would be more then fair.

Haren was traded after a breakout season. Peavy has been outstanding for several years now and is a perennial Cy Young candidate, not to mention he won it in '07. What the A's got for Haren isn't a good comparison to what the Padres should expect for Peavy.

 

 

If you look at Haren and Peavy's PECOTAs before this year, Haren's MORP for 2008-2010 totals to a little over $45M. If you look at Peavy's MORP 2009-2013 is roughly $82M. Now PECOTA is just one projection system and MORP is far from perfect, but I'm just using it as an example of how the two players were projected BEFORE this season. So, as of the trade Haren was projected to be worth $45M and had a $16M contract over the next three years. Peavy (as of last years PECOTAs is projected to be worth $82M and has a $78M contract over the next 5 years.

[Jehrico]

So let me understand correctly. Brewerfan is OK with giving up Fielder, Hardy, Hart & Gwyn for Peavy? WOWSERS!

 

I think that Hardy, Hart & Parra is WAY overboard for Peavy. Look at the Haren deal last offseason. The A's got talent but got more quantity than quality. If memory serves, they got 1 B+ prospect and several B-to C- players

 

There is no way that Peavy brings back a huge haul like Haren or Bedard. A deal for Pie, Marshall & Ceda would be more then fair.

Haren was traded after a breakout season. Peavy has been outstanding for several years now and is a perennial Cy Young candidate, not to mention he won it in '07. What the A's got for Haren isn't a good comparison to what the Padres should expect for Peavy.

 

 

If you look at Haren and Peavy's PECOTAs before this year, Haren's MORP for 2008-2010 totals to a little over $45M. If you look at Peavy's MORP 2009-2013 is roughly $82M. Now PECOTA is just one projection system and MORP is far from perfect, but I'm just using it as an example of how the two players were projected BEFORE this season. So, as of the trade Haren was projected to be worth $45M and had a $16M contract over the next three years. Peavy (as of last years PECOTAs is projected to be worth $82M and has a $78M contract over the next 5 years.

Doesn't matter. If healthy, Peavy is a guaranteed ace. The big market, playoff caliber teams are going to go that extra mile for the definitive #1. Haren, while very good, and a better deal for the $, simply isn't that guy. The market for those guys is different. If the haul is similar, it will be because of health concerns after this past year that Peavy just had.

[Little Slide Rooter]

So let me understand correctly. Brewerfan is OK with giving up Fielder, Hardy, Hart & Gwyn for Peavy? WOWSERS!

 

I think that Hardy, Hart & Parra is WAY overboard for Peavy. Look at the Haren deal last offseason. The A's got talent but got more quantity than quality. If memory serves, they got 1 B+ prospect and several B-to C- players

 

There is no way that Peavy brings back a huge haul like Haren or Bedard. A deal for Pie, Marshall & Ceda would be more then fair.

 

As I said before, if the Brewers give up Fielder, Hart, and Hardy for Peavey, they'll be just as bad as the Padres are now. an ace, a solid number 2, and a few good hitters.

 

and why do people keep ignoring the fact that Peavy never mentioned Milwaukee as one of the cities hed be OK with?

[BigbadB]

I don't think Hardy and Hart are guys that San Diego would be interested in. They want cheap guys for today and tomorrow. Hardy and Hart must be getting close to their big paydays.

[17 Seconds]

So let me understand correctly. Brewerfan is OK with giving up Fielder, Hardy, Hart & Gwyn for Peavy? WOWSERS!

 

I think that Hardy, Hart & Parra is WAY overboard for Peavy. Look at the Haren deal last offseason. The A's got talent but got more quantity than quality. If memory serves, they got 1 B+ prospect and several B-to C- players

 

There is no way that Peavy brings back a huge haul like Haren or Bedard. A deal for Pie, Marshall & Ceda would be more then fair.

Haren was traded after a breakout season. Peavy has been outstanding for several years now and is a perennial Cy Young candidate, not to mention he won it in '07. What the A's got for Haren isn't a good comparison to what the Padres should expect for Peavy.

 

 

If you look at Haren and Peavy's PECOTAs before this year, Haren's MORP for 2008-2010 totals to a little over $45M. If you look at Peavy's MORP 2009-2013 is roughly $82M. Now PECOTA is just one projection system and MORP is far from perfect, but I'm just using it as an example of how the two players were projected BEFORE this season. So, as of the trade Haren was projected to be worth $45M and had a $16M contract over the next three years. Peavy (as of last years PECOTAs is projected to be worth $82M and has a $78M contract over the next 5 years.

Doesn't matter. If healthy, Peavy is a guaranteed ace. The big market, playoff caliber teams are going to go that extra mile for the definitive #1. Haren, while very good, and a better deal for the $, simply isn't that guy. The market for those guys is different. If the haul is similar, it will be because of health concerns after this past year that Peavy just had.

 

Peavy is probably more valuable, but I think you're overestimating what Peavy has done in the past 2 seasons compared to what Haren has done, especially considering Petco.

[anabiono]

Per Rotoworld

 

The Denver Post reports that "the Rockies called about the availability of Padres ace Jake Peavy, but ... Colorado is not one of the teams for which he would waive his no-trade clause."

Going from pitcher-friendly Petco Park to Coors Field would be quite a shock to Peavy's system (and stats). The newspaper speculates that the BrCaUvBeSs are the current favorites to land Peavy.

Source: Denver Post

[RedFlash]

 

and why do people keep ignoring the fact that Peavy never mentioned Milwaukee as one of the cities hed be OK with?

 

Prolly because they heard Buster Olney throw Milwaukee into the discussion and thought the Brewers could make a play for him. But in way I think most people think (or this is my speculation) is that if Peavy is willing to waive his NTC to go to the playoff bound Cubs, then he might be willing to go to the Brewers team that made the playoffs too.

 

Personally all this Peavy talk is speculative, because I don't see a team that matches up well with the Padres. Teams that Peavy are interested in either do not have the kind of prospects that Padres want (unless Towers changes what he is looking for) or don't have. And the teams the Padres are interested in trading with (Dodgers/Yankees/Red Sox/Angels) are either on Peavy's no trade list, or is on the Padres like hell we trade with you list.

 

The closest team to being a leader for Peavy is the Braves, and contrary to popular belief I don't understand why they are interested. While the Braves are not the far behind the Phillies and the Mets they shouldn't be making any other big moves for the time being. If I was a Braves fan I would be scare to death to trade for Peavy today for a full value, and then trade him tomorrow for less the full value,ala Mark Teixeria. The Braves should be looking to move Chipper Jones, Mike Gonzalez etc,etc and do what they've always done, draft and developed young players. Making a play for Peavy now doesn't make the Braves a playoff caliber team, all he does is make them a .500 team.

 

I know the buzz is Peavy will be dealt (prolly before the GM meetingss in December), but my gut feeling is that I doubt you'll see Peavy move this offseason because there won't be that one deal the Padres like for a team that the Padres and Peavy can agree upon. I understand why the Padres are trying to move Peavy (and it's a really stupid reason), but they shouldn't just trade a premium talent like Peavy just to cut payroll. The Padres already have a disinterested fanbase and they Padres do not have a Tony Gwynn type player to keep the fans coming to the park. My suggestion to the Padres is this: don't move Peavy just to move Peavy. If you can't get the RIGHT deal for Peavy don't trade him.

[SCCubbieFAN]

has a deal centering around DLee for Peavy been brought up anywhere in this thread? If DLee is going to waive his NTC it will most likely be for a west coast team as has been previously mentioned several times.

[CubColtPacer]

has a deal centering around DLee for Peavy been brought up anywhere in this thread? If DLee is going to waive his NTC it will most likely be for a west coast team as has been previously mentioned several times.

 

The Padres are looking to cut payroll and get younger by trading Peavy. DLee doesn't help them with either objective. Plus they already have a good player at his position.

[fromthestretch]

The closest team to being a leader for Peavy is the Braves, and contrary to popular belief I don't understand why they are interested. While the Braves are not the far behind the Phillies and the Mets they shouldn't be making any other big moves for the time being. If I was a Braves fan I would be scare to death to trade for Peavy today for a full value, and then trade him tomorrow for less the full value,ala Mark Teixeria. The Braves should be looking to move Chipper Jones, Mike Gonzalez etc,etc and do what they've always done, draft and developed young players. Making a play for Peavy now doesn't make the Braves a playoff caliber team, all he does is make them a .500 team.

 

Isn't Peavy under contract for awhile though? If so, the Braves would be acquiring him not only for 2008 but with an eye towards 2009-2011. As for 2008, if Smoltz is back, a front three of Peavy, Smoltz, and Jurrjens is nothing to sneeze at. Their offense isn't that bad with McCann, Chipper, Johnson, and Escobar. While Kotchman isn't great, he could conceivably contribute an OPS+ of 115-120 if given the opportunity. They do appear to be weak in the outfield, and if they have to deal away one of the five players I mentioned to get Peavy, that could put them in a bit of a bind offensively. But again, Peavy wouldn't just be acquired for next season only. They aren't in such bad shape that they can't make this team much better by 2009 or 2010.

[rawaction]

The closest team to being a leader for Peavy is the Braves, and contrary to popular belief I don't understand why they are interested. While the Braves are not the far behind the Phillies and the Mets they shouldn't be making any other big moves for the time being. If I was a Braves fan I would be scare to death to trade for Peavy today for a full value, and then trade him tomorrow for less the full value,ala Mark Teixeria. The Braves should be looking to move Chipper Jones, Mike Gonzalez etc,etc and do what they've always done, draft and developed young players. Making a play for Peavy now doesn't make the Braves a playoff caliber team, all he does is make them a .500 team.

 

Isn't Peavy under contract for awhile though? If so, the Braves would be acquiring him not only for 2008 but with an eye towards 2009-2011. As for 2008, if Smoltz is back, a front three of Peavy, Smoltz, and Jurrjens is nothing to sneeze at. Their offense isn't that bad with McCann, Chipper, Johnson, and Escobar. While Kotchman isn't great, he could conceivably contribute an OPS+ of 115-120 if given the opportunity. They do appear to be weak in the outfield, and if they have to deal away one of the five players I mentioned to get Peavy, that could put them in a bit of a bind offensively. But again, Peavy wouldn't just be acquired for next season only. They aren't in such bad shape that they can't make this team much better by 2009 or 2010.

 

2008 is over. Smoltz won't be back, at least not as a starter. If he makes it back it will be in the pen.

[nilodnayr]

So let me understand correctly. Brewerfan is OK with giving up Fielder, Hardy, Hart & Gwyn for Peavy? WOWSERS!

 

I think that Hardy, Hart & Parra is WAY overboard for Peavy. Look at the Haren deal last offseason. The A's got talent but got more quantity than quality. If memory serves, they got 1 B+ prospect and several B-to C- players

 

There is no way that Peavy brings back a huge haul like Haren or Bedard. A deal for Pie, Marshall & Ceda would be more then fair.

Haren was traded after a breakout season. Peavy has been outstanding for several years now and is a perennial Cy Young candidate, not to mention he won it in '07. What the A's got for Haren isn't a good comparison to what the Padres should expect for Peavy.

 

 

If you look at Haren and Peavy's PECOTAs before this year, Haren's MORP for 2008-2010 totals to a little over $45M. If you look at Peavy's MORP 2009-2013 is roughly $82M. Now PECOTA is just one projection system and MORP is far from perfect, but I'm just using it as an example of how the two players were projected BEFORE this season. So, as of the trade Haren was projected to be worth $45M and had a $16M contract over the next three years. Peavy (as of last years PECOTAs is projected to be worth $82M and has a $78M contract over the next 5 years.

Doesn't matter. If healthy, Peavy is a guaranteed ace. The big market, playoff caliber teams are going to go that extra mile for the definitive #1. Haren, while very good, and a better deal for the $, simply isn't that guy. The market for those guys is different. If the haul is similar, it will be because of health concerns after this past year that Peavy just had.

 

Um, yes, yes it does matter. You can't just say "guaranteed ace" and throw out everything else. You don't think that teams value players not just on their ability but also on how much they are paid and for how long? If that was the case then guys like Johan Santana wouldn't be traded for the modest package the Twins received.

 

I'm sorry, but if you give me the choice between guaranteed ace making ace money or probably ace making mid-level starting second baseman money, unless I'm the Yankees, I'm going to take the latter. And with starting pitchers, the health issue is always going to be there.

 

As the MORP vs Salary comparison shows, Haren was the more valuable asset. If the haul is similar, it will be because teams inefficiently use money and resources.

[nilodnayr]

The closest team to being a leader for Peavy is the Braves, and contrary to popular belief I don't understand why they are interested. While the Braves are not the far behind the Phillies and the Mets they shouldn't be making any other big moves for the time being. If I was a Braves fan I would be scare to death to trade for Peavy today for a full value, and then trade him tomorrow for less the full value,ala Mark Teixeria. The Braves should be looking to move Chipper Jones, Mike Gonzalez etc,etc and do what they've always done, draft and developed young players. Making a play for Peavy now doesn't make the Braves a playoff caliber team, all he does is make them a .500 team.

 

Isn't Peavy under contract for awhile though? If so, the Braves would be acquiring him not only for 2008 but with an eye towards 2009-2011. As for 2008, if Smoltz is back, a front three of Peavy, Smoltz, and Jurrjens is nothing to sneeze at. Their offense isn't that bad with McCann, Chipper, Johnson, and Escobar. While Kotchman isn't great, he could conceivably contribute an OPS+ of 115-120 if given the opportunity. They do appear to be weak in the outfield, and if they have to deal away one of the five players I mentioned to get Peavy, that could put them in a bit of a bind offensively. But again, Peavy wouldn't just be acquired for next season only. They aren't in such bad shape that they can't make this team much better by 2009 or 2010.

 

2008 is over. Smoltz won't be back, at least not as a starter. If he makes it back it will be in the pen.

 

Not to mention that Chipper most likely won't be back either.

[rawaction]

The closest team to being a leader for Peavy is the Braves, and contrary to popular belief I don't understand why they are interested. While the Braves are not the far behind the Phillies and the Mets they shouldn't be making any other big moves for the time being. If I was a Braves fan I would be scare to death to trade for Peavy today for a full value, and then trade him tomorrow for less the full value,ala Mark Teixeria. The Braves should be looking to move Chipper Jones, Mike Gonzalez etc,etc and do what they've always done, draft and developed young players. Making a play for Peavy now doesn't make the Braves a playoff caliber team, all he does is make them a .500 team.

 

Isn't Peavy under contract for awhile though? If so, the Braves would be acquiring him not only for 2008 but with an eye towards 2009-2011. As for 2008, if Smoltz is back, a front three of Peavy, Smoltz, and Jurrjens is nothing to sneeze at. Their offense isn't that bad with McCann, Chipper, Johnson, and Escobar. While Kotchman isn't great, he could conceivably contribute an OPS+ of 115-120 if given the opportunity. They do appear to be weak in the outfield, and if they have to deal away one of the five players I mentioned to get Peavy, that could put them in a bit of a bind offensively. But again, Peavy wouldn't just be acquired for next season only. They aren't in such bad shape that they can't make this team much better by 2009 or 2010.

 

2008 is over. Smoltz won't be back, at least not as a starter. If he makes it back it will be in the pen.

 

Not to mention that Chipper most likely won't be back either.

 

Really? Where are you getting that?

[fromthestretch]

The closest team to being a leader for Peavy is the Braves, and contrary to popular belief I don't understand why they are interested. While the Braves are not the far behind the Phillies and the Mets they shouldn't be making any other big moves for the time being. If I was a Braves fan I would be scare to death to trade for Peavy today for a full value, and then trade him tomorrow for less the full value,ala Mark Teixeria. The Braves should be looking to move Chipper Jones, Mike Gonzalez etc,etc and do what they've always done, draft and developed young players. Making a play for Peavy now doesn't make the Braves a playoff caliber team, all he does is make them a .500 team.

 

Isn't Peavy under contract for awhile though? If so, the Braves would be acquiring him not only for 2008 but with an eye towards 2009-2011. As for 2008, if Smoltz is back, a front three of Peavy, Smoltz, and Jurrjens is nothing to sneeze at. Their offense isn't that bad with McCann, Chipper, Johnson, and Escobar. While Kotchman isn't great, he could conceivably contribute an OPS+ of 115-120 if given the opportunity. They do appear to be weak in the outfield, and if they have to deal away one of the five players I mentioned to get Peavy, that could put them in a bit of a bind offensively. But again, Peavy wouldn't just be acquired for next season only. They aren't in such bad shape that they can't make this team much better by 2009 or 2010.

 

2008 is over. Smoltz won't be back, at least not as a starter. If he makes it back it will be in the pen.

 

Oops. Just add a year to everything I typed above. And good point about Smoltz. I guess he'd probably step back into the closer's role.

[nilodnayr]

The closest team to being a leader for Peavy is the Braves, and contrary to popular belief I don't understand why they are interested. While the Braves are not the far behind the Phillies and the Mets they shouldn't be making any other big moves for the time being. If I was a Braves fan I would be scare to death to trade for Peavy today for a full value, and then trade him tomorrow for less the full value,ala Mark Teixeria. The Braves should be looking to move Chipper Jones, Mike Gonzalez etc,etc and do what they've always done, draft and developed young players. Making a play for Peavy now doesn't make the Braves a playoff caliber team, all he does is make them a .500 team.

 

Isn't Peavy under contract for awhile though? If so, the Braves would be acquiring him not only for 2008 but with an eye towards 2009-2011. As for 2008, if Smoltz is back, a front three of Peavy, Smoltz, and Jurrjens is nothing to sneeze at. Their offense isn't that bad with McCann, Chipper, Johnson, and Escobar. While Kotchman isn't great, he could conceivably contribute an OPS+ of 115-120 if given the opportunity. They do appear to be weak in the outfield, and if they have to deal away one of the five players I mentioned to get Peavy, that could put them in a bit of a bind offensively. But again, Peavy wouldn't just be acquired for next season only. They aren't in such bad shape that they can't make this team much better by 2009 or 2010.

 

2008 is over. Smoltz won't be back, at least not as a starter. If he makes it back it will be in the pen.

 

Not to mention that Chipper most likely won't be back either.

 

Really? Where are you getting that?

 

Well the latest that I've seen has his option vesting, and him wanting to finish his career as a brave, but only if they are going to be a winning team. Hes got a short list of teams he'd accept a trade to. Hes talking about being traded a lot.

 

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/braves/entries/2008/09/28/ruminating_on_t.html?cxntfid=blogs_braves

 

Hes actively campaigning for the team to win now by acquiring Peavy or Burnett. If they don't get either, it seems he'll be resigned to be the old dude on a rebuilding team. Not something he wants

 

But on the flip side theres that GQ article from a month ago...

John Schuerholz treated the subject of re-signing Jones after '09 delicately. One telling quote: "The reality of our business begs that we recognize the fact that it would be a really unusual development if he were to remain here."

[Little Slide Rooter]

At least this makes me happy

 

The St. Louis Post Dispatch reports that general manager John Mozeliak has "all but dismissed the Cardinals as players for" Jake Peavy.

 

Peavy's agent previously listed St. Louis among five cities his client would be interested in, but the Cardinals just gave Kyle Lohse a big contract and are also locked into Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright through 2011.

[BigbadB]

At least this makes me happy

 

The St. Louis Post Dispatch reports that general manager John Mozeliak has "all but dismissed the Cardinals as players for" Jake Peavy.

 

Peavy's agent previously listed St. Louis among five cities his client would be interested in, but the Cardinals just gave Kyle Lohse a big contract and are also locked into Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright through 2011.

 

Ah, apparently there is such a thing as "too much pitching".

[Schwarber Fan]

There's no way this thread doesn't become the Brian Roberts fiasco of 2009

[UMFan83]

There's no way this thread doesn't become the Brian Roberts fiasco of 2009

 

I doubt it. I have not read anywhere that says the Cubs have any interest in trading for Peavy, plus this trade should be completed most likely before the new year.

[nilodnayr]

At least this makes me happy

 

The St. Louis Post Dispatch reports that general manager John Mozeliak has "all but dismissed the Cardinals as players for" Jake Peavy.

 

Peavy's agent previously listed St. Louis among five cities his client would be interested in, but the Cardinals just gave Kyle Lohse a big contract and are also locked into Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright through 2011.

 

Ah, apparently there is such a thing as "too much pitching".

 

No, but there is such a thing as "finite resources".

[mul21]

At least this makes me happy

 

The St. Louis Post Dispatch reports that general manager John Mozeliak has "all but dismissed the Cardinals as players for" Jake Peavy.

 

Peavy's agent previously listed St. Louis among five cities his client would be interested in, but the Cardinals just gave Kyle Lohse a big contract and are also locked into Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright through 2011.

 

Ah, apparently there is such a thing as "too much pitching".

 

No, but there is such a thing as "finite resources".

 

It's not even a resources thing. They've got plenty of money, their owner just doesn't like to spend a lot of it. They aren't Cubs, Bosox, or Yankees loaded, but they certainly aren't hurting for cash even with funding the new stadium.