Jake Peavy: Available.

[Mugged By Fluffy]

2 mentions of the Cubs in MLBtraderumors:

 

Jacob Jackson at Athletics Nation predicts destinations for his top 12 free agents. My Top 50 will come out after the World Series. I disagree with a few of Jacob's picks - Derek Lowe and Jason Giambi re-signing and the Cubs signing Adam Dunn.

 

If you read the link, this blogger thinks the Cubs will offer an obscene amount of money to get Dunn.

 

According to Dan Graziano of the Newark Star-Ledger, the Yankees have had preliminary discussions with the Padres about Jake Peavy (hat tip to River Ave. Blues). Peavy was apparently a hot topic at the Yankees' organizational meetings. Peavy's agent hinted he might accept a trade to the Yankees, but he does prefer the NL.

 

Peavy's preferred cities are Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, and St. Louis. Despite that, Graziano says the Mets have interest. The Padres are aggressively shopping Peavy, seeking two young pitchers and a near MLB-ready center fielder.

 

I would think the Cubs ought to be able to fill the requirement of "two young pitchers and a near MLB-ready CF." Pie and Marshall plus more young pitching seems to be what is being asked for.

 

 

I still think it's highly unlikely the Yankees are going to get Peavy. They don't have enough to give up for him. SD is not going to take on the overvalued contract the Yankees gave Cano, Cabrera is a worthless CF and Cashman isn't going to give up Chamberlain. Kennedy isn't worth anything though Phil Hughes might be.

 

Also keep in mind all the money that is coming off the Yankee books this season. Easier for the Yanks to throw money at Lowe, Sabathia, etc.... than to trade their prospects that Cashman covets so much.

 

I do think the Cubs have a shot with Vitters as the centerpiece, along with Theriot, Castillo, Pie and Marshall.

Edited October 17, 2008 by Mugged By Fluffy

[illiniguy]

2 mentions of the Cubs in MLBtraderumors:

 

Jacob Jackson at Athletics Nation predicts destinations for his top 12 free agents. My Top 50 will come out after the World Series. I disagree with a few of Jacob's picks - Derek Lowe and Jason Giambi re-signing and the Cubs signing Adam Dunn.

 

If you read the link, this blogger thinks the Cubs will offer an obscene amount of money to get Dunn.

 

According to Dan Graziano of the Newark Star-Ledger, the Yankees have had preliminary discussions with the Padres about Jake Peavy (hat tip to River Ave. Blues). Peavy was apparently a hot topic at the Yankees' organizational meetings. Peavy's agent hinted he might accept a trade to the Yankees, but he does prefer the NL.

 

Peavy's preferred cities are Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, and St. Louis. Despite that, Graziano says the Mets have interest. The Padres are aggressively shopping Peavy, seeking two young pitchers and a near MLB-ready center fielder.

 

I would think the Cubs ought to be able to fill the requirement of "two young pitchers and a near MLB-ready CF." Pie and Marshall plus more young pitching seems to be what is being asked for.

 

 

I still think it's highly unlikely the Yankees are going to get Peavy. They don't have enough to give up for him. SD is not going to take on the overvalued contract the Yankees gave Cano Cabrera is a worthless CF and Cashman isn't going to give up Chamberlain. Kennedy isn't worth anything though Phil Hughes might be.

,

Also keep in mind all the money that is coming off the Yankee books this season. Easier for the Yanks to throw money at Lowe, Sabathia, etc.... than to trade their prospects that Cashman covets so much.

 

I do think the Cubs have a shot with Vitters as the centerpiece, along with Theriot, Castillo, Pie and Marshall.

I think that Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, Delin Betances gets it done. The Yankees have some good pitching in the system.

[Mugged By Fluffy]

2 mentions of the Cubs in MLBtraderumors:

 

Jacob Jackson at Athletics Nation predicts destinations for his top 12 free agents. My Top 50 will come out after the World Series. I disagree with a few of Jacob's picks - Derek Lowe and Jason Giambi re-signing and the Cubs signing Adam Dunn.

 

If you read the link, this blogger thinks the Cubs will offer an obscene amount of money to get Dunn.

 

According to Dan Graziano of the Newark Star-Ledger, the Yankees have had preliminary discussions with the Padres about Jake Peavy (hat tip to River Ave. Blues). Peavy was apparently a hot topic at the Yankees' organizational meetings. Peavy's agent hinted he might accept a trade to the Yankees, but he does prefer the NL.

 

Peavy's preferred cities are Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, and St. Louis. Despite that, Graziano says the Mets have interest. The Padres are aggressively shopping Peavy, seeking two young pitchers and a near MLB-ready center fielder.

 

I would think the Cubs ought to be able to fill the requirement of "two young pitchers and a near MLB-ready CF." Pie and Marshall plus more young pitching seems to be what is being asked for.

 

 

I still think it's highly unlikely the Yankees are going to get Peavy. They don't have enough to give up for him. SD is not going to take on the overvalued contract the Yankees gave Cano Cabrera is a worthless CF and Cashman isn't going to give up Chamberlain. Kennedy isn't worth anything though Phil Hughes might be.

,

Also keep in mind all the money that is coming off the Yankee books this season. Easier for the Yanks to throw money at Lowe, Sabathia, etc.... than to trade their prospects that Cashman covets so much.

 

I do think the Cubs have a shot with Vitters as the centerpiece, along with Theriot, Castillo, Pie and Marshall.

I think that Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, Delin Betances gets it done. The Yankees have some good pitching in the system.

 

I don't know. I don't see Jackson doing it. He looks to be your ordinary average outfielder. Late pick in the draft, isn't anything special in the minors right now. Betances though? Good point I forgot about him.

 

Still it makes no sense for the big spending Yanks to drain their farm for Peavy when all they have to do is go hard after Sabathia, Lowe, Sheets, etc...

[illiniguy]

2 mentions of the Cubs in MLBtraderumors:

 

Jacob Jackson at Athletics Nation predicts destinations for his top 12 free agents. My Top 50 will come out after the World Series. I disagree with a few of Jacob's picks - Derek Lowe and Jason Giambi re-signing and the Cubs signing Adam Dunn.

 

If you read the link, this blogger thinks the Cubs will offer an obscene amount of money to get Dunn.

 

According to Dan Graziano of the Newark Star-Ledger, the Yankees have had preliminary discussions with the Padres about Jake Peavy (hat tip to River Ave. Blues). Peavy was apparently a hot topic at the Yankees' organizational meetings. Peavy's agent hinted he might accept a trade to the Yankees, but he does prefer the NL.

 

Peavy's preferred cities are Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, and St. Louis. Despite that, Graziano says the Mets have interest. The Padres are aggressively shopping Peavy, seeking two young pitchers and a near MLB-ready center fielder.

 

I would think the Cubs ought to be able to fill the requirement of "two young pitchers and a near MLB-ready CF." Pie and Marshall plus more young pitching seems to be what is being asked for.

 

 

I still think it's highly unlikely the Yankees are going to get Peavy. They don't have enough to give up for him. SD is not going to take on the overvalued contract the Yankees gave Cano Cabrera is a worthless CF and Cashman isn't going to give up Chamberlain. Kennedy isn't worth anything though Phil Hughes might be.

,

Also keep in mind all the money that is coming off the Yankee books this season. Easier for the Yanks to throw money at Lowe, Sabathia, etc.... than to trade their prospects that Cashman covets so much.

 

I do think the Cubs have a shot with Vitters as the centerpiece, along with Theriot, Castillo, Pie and Marshall.

I think that Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, Delin Betances gets it done. The Yankees have some good pitching in the system.

 

I don't know. I don't see Jackson doing it. He looks to be your ordinary average outfielder. Late pick in the draft, isn't anything special in the minors right now. Betances though? Good point I forgot about him.

 

Still it makes no sense for the big spending Yanks to drain their farm for Peavy when all they have to do is go hard after Sabathia, Lowe, Sheets, etc...

I don't see the Yankees going after Sheets after being burned by Pavano the last 4 years, they are going to want a guy who can take the ball 30 times a year. I imagine they will go after Sabathia and try to trade for Peavy.

[Mephistopheles]

I think that Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, Delin Betances gets it done. The Yankees have some good pitching in the system.

 

It doesn't matter. Peavy won't waive his NTC.

[illiniguy]

I think that Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, Delin Betances gets it done. The Yankees have some good pitching in the system.

 

It doesn't matter. Peavy won't waive his NTC.

All together, or just to play for the Yankees?

[JeffH]

I think that Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, Delin Betances gets it done. The Yankees have some good pitching in the system.

 

It doesn't matter. Peavy won't waive his NTC.

All together, or just to play for the Yankees?

 

To play for an American League club.

[illiniguy]

I think that Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, Delin Betances gets it done. The Yankees have some good pitching in the system.

 

It doesn't matter. Peavy won't waive his NTC.

All together, or just to play for the Yankees?

 

To play for an American League club.

Gotcha, I kinda wish he would go AL. I don't want him in STL, that is for sure.

[mhuber92211]

Why is Peavy so valued? He seems very similar to Harden in that he puts all he has in every pitch and sooner then later that will effect his ability to go deep into games. Not to mention his terrible mechanics and his already questionable injury whispers.

 

I don't see Peavy getting a bigger return then somehwere between the Harden deal and the Sabathia Deal.

 

In that sense a deal for Pie, Marshall and Jay Jackson type would be somewhat reasonable.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Atlanta would be fine by me for him. Anywhere but Milwaukee or St Louis.

 

For us, he would be great to have, but it would be more of a luxury, and the main task at hand should be finding a big bat.

[Outshined_One]

In that sense a deal for Pie, Marshall and Jay Jackson type would be somewhat reasonable.

 

Jackson can't be traded until one year has passed since he signed.

[RedFlash]

I think that Austin Jackson, Phil Hughes, Delin Betances gets it done. The Yankees have some good pitching in the system.

 

It doesn't matter. Peavy won't waive his NTC.

All together, or just to play for the Yankees?

 

To play for an American League club.

 

Actually, I believe I heard Peavy would be open to piitching for the Los Angeles Angels, but I believe LAA would be the only AL team he'd be interested in waiving his NTC for.

[SweetZombieJesus]

 

You do realize though that the Santana trade was basically a posting fee, the team who won then had to pay him market value. Thats most definitely not the case here. I also think you value all of those Cubs players too much.

 

One of the top 10 or so relievers in the game who's still cost controlled and three likely top 100 prospects.

 

I don't think I'm overrating anyone.

 

If you want to get technical. A Peavy trade is closer to the Bedard trade where at the time the O's got a decent reliever in Sherrill, a good pitching prospect in Tillman who stunk in high A with the O's, a toolsy OF in Jones who has had some service time, a tall reliever and a potential back of the rotation starter.

 

Peavy's value isn't what it was last year when he was Cy young winner. He missed some starts this year and K/9 down and K/BB his went up. No whether this is blip on the radar remains to be seen.

[Clem Fandango]

I know he's an absolutely monster pitcher and we're lucky to have him for good money in 2009... but has anyone considered shopping Harden to the Padres? As great as it would be to have both Harden and Peavy, maybe it would be a quick path to getting Peavy if we give up Harden. After all, we only officially have him for one more year, and his injury history is very sketchy, so who knows?

 

Perhaps starting with Harden will easily get us to the table and will also prevent us from having to give up too many prospects as well.

 

I'm not necessarily condoning this, just throwing it out there

[rawaction]

I know he's an absolutely monster pitcher and we're lucky to have him for good money in 2009... but has anyone considered shopping Harden to the Padres? As great as it would be to have both Harden and Peavy, maybe it would be a quick path to getting Peavy if we give up Harden. After all, we only officially have him for one more year, and his injury history is very sketchy, so who knows?

 

Perhaps starting with Harden will easily get us to the table and will also prevent us from having to give up too many prospects as well.

 

I'm not necessarily condoning this, just throwing it out there

 

Seems pointless from the Padres point of view. 1 year of Harden. They'd be better off getting a couple young pitchers that can be in their rotation for 4-5 years. And it's not like Harden would be necessary to include for salary purposes. Peavy's contract is very affordable for what he gives you, which is a top 3 pitcher in the game today.

[YearofDaCubs]

Shark, Marshall and Colvin or Pie for Peavy

[mhuber92211]

In that sense a deal for Pie, Marshall and Jay Jackson type would be somewhat reasonable.

 

Jackson can't be traded until one year has passed since he signed.

 

 

Hence the "Jay Jackson TYPE" meaning someone similar to him in high A or AA that I could not think of off the top of my head.

 

:wink:

[Rob]

as Marmol + Samardzija + Vitters + Pie is probably only enough to get us to the table.

 

 

Wait when did Peavy become Johan Santana on a Brawndo/HGH cocktail Good lord, If that's not going to get it done. No one else will be get him either. Short of the Red Sox.

 

But that's besides the point anyways. Shark is not being traded this offseason.

 

Peavy and Santana are the #1 and #2 pitchers in baseball, and it's not even particularly close. And since Peavy is under contract for three years, whereas Santana is under contract for one... well, it's gonna be pretty expensive to pick him up.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Ive accepted the fact that we wont be getting Peavy. All I care is that he doesn end up St Luis, Milwaukee, or Houston. Edited October 17, 2008 by Little Slide Rooter

[nilodnayr]

 

You do realize though that the Santana trade was basically a posting fee, the team who won then had to pay him market value. Thats most definitely not the case here. I also think you value all of those Cubs players too much.

 

One of the top 10 or so relievers in the game who's still cost controlled and three likely top 100 prospects.

 

I don't think I'm overrating anyone.

 

If you want to get technical. A Peavy trade is closer to the Bedard trade where at the time the O's got a decent reliever in Sherrill, a good pitching prospect in Tillman who stunk in high A with the O's, a toolsy OF in Jones who has had some service time, a tall reliever and a potential back of the rotation starter.

 

Peavy's value isn't what it was last year when he was Cy young winner. He missed some starts this year and K/9 down and K/BB his went up. No whether this is blip on the radar remains to be seen.

 

Yes, Marmol is a top 10 reliever. RELIEVER. Hes good, don't get me wrong, but hes also an injury risk, walks WAY too many guys, and whos value is mitigated being on a crappy team like the Padres.

 

Samardzija signed with us because of the NTC, 0% chance he gets traded.

 

General consensus over in the minor league forum is that Vitters will be 25-40 and Samardzija will be 50-75. Rotoworld had Vitters at 44 mid-season. Pie can't qualify for lists anymore.

 

Theres a big difference between a top 100 prospect thats ranked in the top 20 and one thats not.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Peavy's preferred cities are Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, and St. Louis. Despite that, Graziano says the Mets have interest. The Padres are aggressively shopping Peavy, seeking two young pitchers and a near MLB-ready center fielder.

 

 

Makes you wonder, had we not made the Harden trade, would Gallagher, Marshall, and Pie done the trick, or even if Rich Hills 2008 hadnt been a complete disaster, Hill, Marshall, and Pie.

[Outshined_One]

In that sense a deal for Pie, Marshall and Jay Jackson type would be somewhat reasonable.

 

Jackson can't be traded until one year has passed since he signed.

 

 

Hence the "Jay Jackson TYPE" meaning someone similar to him in high A or AA that I could not think of off the top of my head.

 

:wink:

 

There aren't any. :(

[SweetZombieJesus]

 

Yes, Marmol is a top 10 reliever. RELIEVER. Hes good, don't get me wrong, but hes also an injury risk, walks WAY too many guys, and whos value is mitigated being on a crappy team like the Padres.

 

Who cares if he walks guys. It's not like he is a 1.50 WHIP type guy. But I agree about his value being migitated by the said team.

 

Samardzija signed with us because of the NTC, 0% chance he gets traded.

 

I know this I've said it about 50 times already.

 

General consensus over in the minor league forum is that Vitters will be 25-40 and Samardzija will be 50-75. Rotoworld had Vitters at 44 mid-season. Pie can't qualify for lists anymore.

 

Theres a big difference between a top 100 prospect thats ranked in the top 20 and one thats not.

 

I agree but the idea that the cubs couldn't get to the table with such a offer (lets say switch out Shark for Marshall and Fontenot) is silly. It's a solid offer.

[SweetZombieJesus]

as Marmol + Samardzija + Vitters + Pie is probably only enough to get us to the table.

 

 

Wait when did Peavy become Johan Santana on a Brawndo/HGH cocktail Good lord, If that's not going to get it done. No one else will be get him either. Short of the Red Sox.

 

But that's besides the point anyways. Shark is not being traded this offseason.

 

Peavy and Santana are the #1 and #2 pitchers in baseball, and it's not even particularly close. And since Peavy is under contract for three years, whereas Santana is under contract for one... well, it's gonna be pretty expensive to pick him up.

 

objection your honor

[SouthSideRyan]

as Marmol + Samardzija + Vitters + Pie is probably only enough to get us to the table.

 

 

Wait when did Peavy become Johan Santana on a Brawndo/HGH cocktail Good lord, If that's not going to get it done. No one else will be get him either. Short of the Red Sox.

 

But that's besides the point anyways. Shark is not being traded this offseason.

 

Peavy and Santana are the #1 and #2 pitchers in baseball, and it's not even particularly close. And since Peavy is under contract for three years, whereas Santana is under contract for one... well, it's gonna be pretty expensive to pick him up.

 

objection your honor

 

Sustained.