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Lilly and Wuertz for Hughes--sell high to a terrible owner who is fighting for a playoff spot, needs SP help badly (Darrell Rasner and Sidney Ponson are in their rotation), for a player who is currently injured and whos stock as fallen.

Hughes is on the 60 day DL with a rib fracture.

 

 

Hence, "for a player who is currently injured"...contrary to popular belief, you CAN trade a player who is on the DL.

 

Are you sure you can do so for the 60-day DL? I'm not, but I'd imagine that with it's 40 man protections there may be a difference.

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Lilly and Wuertz for Hughes--sell high to a terrible owner who is fighting for a playoff spot, needs SP help badly (Darrell Rasner and Sidney Ponson are in their rotation), for a player who is currently injured and whos stock as fallen.

Hughes is on the 60 day DL with a rib fracture.

 

 

Hence, "for a player who is currently injured"...contrary to popular belief, you CAN trade a player who is on the DL.

 

Are you sure you can do so for the 60-day DL? I'm not, but I'd imagine that with it's 40 man protections there may be a difference.

 

Hmm, that one I'm not sure of, but I would assume you could. Maybe the only thing would be that the receiving team would have to have a spot for him on the 40 man roster? Just a guess. Thats the only restriction I could think of. But I guess that would involve being transferred from the 60 day DL to the 15 day DL, which you cant do. I guess they could make you activate him from the DL and then you could put him back on the 15 day DL. All in all, you might have to jump through more hoops, but I'm sure it can be done.

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How about OF Milton Bradley?

 

Sky (The Roc, NY): Can Milton Bradley play the outfield without risking re-injuring his knee? He's much more valuable to a team in RF than at DH...

 

Will Carroll: I don't think he could play every day, but some? Sure.

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Denorfia was traded for while on the 60 day DL last year, though I don't really know what the A's roster looked like at that point.

 

Good call...according to the transactions on MLB.com for that day, no other 40 man or DL changes had to be made. So I guess its completely fine.

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Denorfia was traded for while on the 60 day DL last year, though I don't really know what the A's roster looked like at that point.

 

Good call...according to the transactions on MLB.com for that day, no other 40 man or DL changes had to be made. So I guess its completely fine.

Show you what I know about transactions in MLB. However, I see very little reality in the idea when Hughes is one of the guys the Yankees are banking their future on.

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Trading Lilly and Wuertz is selling high?

 

Those are some fascinating ideas though. I wonder how little Colletti thinks of Hu right now. At his worst he's a more consistent defender than Cedeno with a similar bat. What about a 3 way deal with the Pirates? I can't find a combo I like yet, but something centered around Wilson to LA, Hu and Bay/McLouth to Chicago, and Dodger/Cub pitching(with Cedeno too) to Pittsburgh.

 

I can't see how the Pirates would be will to trade Wilson and Bay (McLouth is untouchable) without getting a ton of top prospects plus Cedeno. The Dodgers have been reluctant to pull the trigger on other deals, so I don't know if they would be willing to toss in some top pitching prospects. I would think it would be something like:

Dodgers get Wilson (From Pirates) and ???? (from Cubs)

Pirates get Marshall & Cedeno (from Cubs) and Kemp (from LA)

Cubs get Bay (from Pirates) and Hu (from LA)

 

Also, we get into the "shifting Fukudome to CF controversy" again.

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Trading Lilly and Wuertz is selling high?

 

Those are some fascinating ideas though. I wonder how little Colletti thinks of Hu right now. At his worst he's a more consistent defender than Cedeno with a similar bat. What about a 3 way deal with the Pirates? I can't find a combo I like yet, but something centered around Wilson to LA, Hu and Bay/McLouth to Chicago, and Dodger/Cub pitching(with Cedeno too) to Pittsburgh.

 

I can't see how the Pirates would be will to trade Wilson and Bay (McLouth is untouchable) without getting a ton of top prospects plus Cedeno. The Dodgers have been reluctant to pull the trigger on other deals, so I don't know if they would be willing to toss in some top pitching prospects. I would think it would be something like:

Dodgers get Wilson (From Pirates) and ???? (from Cubs)

Pirates get Marshall & Cedeno (from Cubs) and Kemp (from LA)

Cubs get Bay (from Pirates) and Hu (from LA)

 

Also, we get into the "shifting Fukudome to CF controversy" again.

I'd think that "????" from the Cubs would have to be pretty good to warrant the Dodgers giving up Kemp and Hu.

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Trading Lilly and Wuertz is selling high?

 

Those are some fascinating ideas though. I wonder how little Colletti thinks of Hu right now. At his worst he's a more consistent defender than Cedeno with a similar bat. What about a 3 way deal with the Pirates? I can't find a combo I like yet, but something centered around Wilson to LA, Hu and Bay/McLouth to Chicago, and Dodger/Cub pitching(with Cedeno too) to Pittsburgh.

 

I can't see how the Pirates would be will to trade Wilson and Bay (McLouth is untouchable) without getting a ton of top prospects plus Cedeno. The Dodgers have been reluctant to pull the trigger on other deals, so I don't know if they would be willing to toss in some top pitching prospects. I would think it would be something like:

Dodgers get Wilson (From Pirates) and ???? (from Cubs)

Pirates get Marshall & Cedeno (from Cubs) and Kemp (from LA)

Cubs get Bay (from Pirates) and Hu (from LA)

 

Also, we get into the "shifting Fukudome to CF controversy" again.

I'd think that "????" from the Cubs would have to be pretty good to warrant the Dodgers giving up Kemp and Hu.

and I don't think we have one of those

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Denorfia was traded for while on the 60 day DL last year, though I don't really know what the A's roster looked like at that point.

 

Good call...according to the transactions on MLB.com for that day, no other 40 man or DL changes had to be made. So I guess its completely fine.

Show you what I know about transactions in MLB. However, I see very little reality in the idea when Hughes is one of the guys the Yankees are banking their future on.

 

Yeah, I said they were stretches, but when you have a 200M+ team, you are in 3rd place, and you have Rasner and Ponson in the rotation, you might get desperate. And its not like Lilly is some schlub, he had an amazing season last year and after a brutal start, has done pretty well since. I don't know it just seems like the Yanks aren't as high on Hughes and Kennedy as they were.

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How about we get someone that can hit the damn ball?

 

At this point, I don't think you worry about what Fukudome thinks about moving to CF. He ain't hitting for s**t, so he needs to keep his trap shut and do what's best for the team. If that's moving to CF, then fine.

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Why does nobody realize that Jim Edmonds is like our best hitter at the moment?

That's like winning a gold medal at the Special Olympics. Is that really anything to brag about?

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Why does nobody realize that Jim Edmonds is like our best hitter at the moment?

That's like winning a gold medal at the Special Olympics. Is that really anything to brag about?

 

Since when is a .943 OPS a bad thing? That's what he's done as a Cub, and it's definitely not something to complain about.

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