Other possible trade targets?

[inari]

I think there's a chance Hendry explores Roberts again. It's constantly been talked about that he wants to give Fukudome and the rest of the outfield more days off. Having Roberts at second and DeRo on the bench would allow that rest. I'm not advocating it. I'm just saying.

[RedFlash]

I think there's a chance Hendry explores Roberts again. It's constantly been talked about that he wants to give Fukudome and the rest of the outfield more days off. Having Roberts at second and DeRo on the bench would allow that rest. I'm not advocating it. I'm just saying.

 

I doubt it. Considering Mike Fontenot's 2008 numbers as a backup 2B (.262/.356/.485/.840) and Mark DeRosa 2008 numbers as a 2B (.298/.370/.404/.774 remind you, this is NOT his overall numbers, just his numbers while playing 2B, DeRo overall numbers is .285/.372/.454/.826 ) are not as far off from Brian Roberts 2008 numbers (.291/.371/.484/.855), so I doubt Hendry will invest what assests he has for a luxury player, instead filling a need. My guess if LHP reliever (I'm not convince Cotts can be that guy, and I believe Hendry/Lou don't either), and a RIGHTY pop off the bench are the Cubs top 2 priorities now before the deadline.

[RynoRules]

Was Big Sexson ultimately released by the M's? He'd give us that RH pop off the benc you were talking about and probably could be had for an Edmonds-like price.

[UMFan83]

Read this today in Starks column:

Don't be positive the Cubs are through dealing for a starting pitcher. Lou Piniella's preference is to have two left-handers in his rotation. So if Sean Marshall doesn't meet the manager's expectations, it wouldn't be out of the question for the Cubs to take another look at someone like Randy Wolf.

[anabiono]

Read this today in Starks column:

Don't be positive the Cubs are through dealing for a starting pitcher. Lou Piniella's preference is to have two left-handers in his rotation. So if Sean Marshall doesn't meet the manager's expectations, it wouldn't be out of the question for the Cubs to take another look at someone like Randy Wolf.

 

sure...i will take him

 

you know why?

 

jason doesn't have a spot then!!!

 

 

:yahoo:

[RedFlash]

Read this today in Starks column:

Don't be positive the Cubs are through dealing for a starting pitcher. Lou Piniella's preference is to have two left-handers in his rotation. So if Sean Marshall doesn't meet the manager's expectations, it wouldn't be out of the question for the Cubs to take another look at someone like Randy Wolf.

 

sure...i will take him

 

you know why?

 

jason doesn't have a spot then!!!

 

 

:yahoo:

 

Glendon Rusch, Shawn Estes, and NOW Randy Wolf. No thank you on Wolf. I prefer Marquis over Wolf.

[Post Count Padder]

Read this today in Starks column:

Don't be positive the Cubs are through dealing for a starting pitcher. Lou Piniella's preference is to have two left-handers in his rotation. So if Sean Marshall doesn't meet the manager's expectations, it wouldn't be out of the question for the Cubs to take another look at someone like Randy Wolf.

Pass. I might take wild Rich Hill over Wolf.

[Backtobanks]

I was trying to find RH power help for the bench and came up with these names:

Millar (O's), Rivera (Angels), and Aurilia (Giants). Millar adds a lot to the clubhouse and the bench, but getting MacPhail to agree on a reasonable price might not be worth it. Rivera is still young and is starting to come out of his slump with some additional playing time. I'm not sure what the Angels would ask for him. Aurilia might be an interesting addition because he should be cheap and his numbers aren't bad. Of course the best option is Milton Bradley (switch hitter), but I think Hendry is afraid of what would happen in the dugout (and clubhouse) with Bradley. Hendry realizes that the Cubs have a good thing going and while Bradley would probably help on the field, he might mess up the team chemistry that has carried them this far.

[UMFan83]

I would love either of those 3. I am very big on us getting a RH power bat for the bench.

[mdwilla]

Instead of giving anything for Millar I would rather gamble on Sexson for right handed pop off the bench for free. Blake or Eckstein would be nice upgrades for the bench.

[inari]

Read this today in Starks column:

Don't be positive the Cubs are through dealing for a starting pitcher. Lou Piniella's preference is to have two left-handers in his rotation. So if Sean Marshall doesn't meet the manager's expectations, it wouldn't be out of the question for the Cubs to take another look at someone like Randy Wolf.

 

sure...i will take him

 

you know why?

 

jason doesn't have a spot then!!!

 

 

:yahoo:

 

Not only is Marquis better than Wolf, he's significantly better than Wolf.

[BigbadB]

I am so tired of the Randy Wolf/Greg Maddux rumors.

 

Randy Wolf at home: 2.54 ERA

Randy Wolf on road: 6.66 ERA

 

Greg Maddux at home: 2.36 ERA

Greg Maddux on road: 5.71 ERA

 

Saying either one of these guys would be an upgrade over Jason Marquis is like saying Jeromy Burnitz would be an upgrade over Kosuke Fukudome based off of Burnitz' stats in Colorado the one year he was there.

 

I could probably jump on the mound at Petco and sport an ERA under 4.00 and I haven't thrown a baseball in over 20 years. Okay, I'm exaggerating. But, neither Wolf or Maddux has had the pleasure yet of pitching at GAP, PNC, Miller or Busch yet this year, and you can bet that these places are not going to help their road ERA's one bit. That just shows you the disparity between parks.

 

Jake Peavy at home: 1.64 ERA

Jake Peavy on road: 4.41 ERA

 

Chris Young at home: 2.57 ERA

Chris Young on road: 6.58 ERA

 

Just say no, Jim!

[Backtobanks]

Instead of giving anything for Millar I would rather gamble on Sexson for right handed pop off the bench for free. Blake or Eckstein would be nice upgrades for the bench.

 

Sexson can't hit while play regularly, so I doubt he could do much as a pinch hitter. I forgot to include Blake as an option, but my first choice would be Rivera. He's young enough that he could help next year or bring something when used as trade bait. I would assume Hendry (and Lou) would rather go with the older guys (Millar or Aurilia) because they've been through it before.

[BigbadB]

Instead of giving anything for Millar I would rather gamble on Sexson for right handed pop off the bench for free. Blake or Eckstein would be nice upgrades for the bench.

 

Sexson can't hit while play regularly, so I doubt he could do much as a pinch hitter. I forgot to include Blake as an option, but my first choice would be Rivera. He's young enough that he could help next year or bring something when used as trade bait. I would assume Hendry (and Lou) would rather go with the older guys (Millar or Aurilia) because they've been through it before.

 

Blake seems interesting enough. He can play 1st, 3rd and corner outfield spots, and may not cost an arm or a leg. I'm intrigued.

[Guest]

Instead of giving anything for Millar I would rather gamble on Sexson for right handed pop off the bench for free. Blake or Eckstein would be nice upgrades for the bench.

 

Sexson can't hit while play regularly, so I doubt he could do much as a pinch hitter. I forgot to include Blake as an option, but my first choice would be Rivera. He's young enough that he could help next year or bring something when used as trade bait. I would assume Hendry (and Lou) would rather go with the older guys (Millar or Aurilia) because they've been through it before.

 

Blake seems interesting enough. He can play 1st, 3rd and corner outfield spots, and may not cost an arm or a leg. I'm intrigued.

 

Tim Wilken drafted Casey Blake.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I thought for sure that Blake could play 2B, but he hasn't played a MLB game there. He's ideal for what we need, but the problem becomes, who does he replace? Blanco and Cedeno can't hit, but they also play defense where no one else can. Ward and Fontenot are both hitting the ball from the left side. Johnson could be replaced, but having gimpy Jimmy Baseball as your only true CF is probably a bad idea. The only truly ideal solution would be having Pie hitting well and playing CF, replacing Edmonds, while Blake takes Johnson's roster spot and we get by with Fukudome and Cedeno as backup CF. However, Blake replacing Johnson isn't a huge improvement. What would you guys do? Go to a shorter pen? Abandon a backup SS for 6 weeks? Get rid of a productive platoon bat(Fontenot or Johnson)?

[Keener98]

I thought for sure that Blake could play 2B, but he hasn't played a MLB game there. He's ideal for what we need, but the problem becomes, who does he replace? Blanco and Cedeno can't hit, but they also play defense where no one else can. Ward and Fontenot are both hitting the ball from the left side. Johnson could be replaced, but having gimpy Jimmy Baseball as your only true CF is probably a bad idea. The only truly ideal solution would be having Pie hitting well and playing CF, replacing Edmonds, while Blake takes Johnson's roster spot and we get by with Fukudome and Cedeno as backup CF. However, Blake replacing Johnson isn't a huge improvement. What would you guys do? Go to a shorter pen? Abandon a backup SS for 6 weeks? Get rid of a productive platoon bat(Fontenot or Johnson)?

 

 

Are Fontenot and DeRo that bad defensively at SS that they couldnt slide there for a start here and there?

[anabiono]

lets look at what our team has been through already

 

1. pie got no chance/he didn't impress

2. hill struggled and got sent down

3. eyre has been mr. injury

4. fonzi apparently is in the constantly injured club

5. Z gave us a near heart attack

 

through all of this we have prevailed

 

i think this teams biggest needs have already been mentioned

 

1. right handed power bat off the bench

2. shut down lefty in the pen

 

if something should happen in CF, for whatever reason i have a feeling...just a very big gut feeling mind you, that pie would step in and fill the void

 

on this last point though, i know i am probably completely wrong

 

if we were to trade for BRob...wouldn't they want pie? what do we then do if one of our CF platoon players goes down or both?

 

i think hendry realizes that this team gels and i don't think he wants to drastically alter the makeup of the ballclub

 

for whatever reason, this year i have put all of my faith in hendry...this is the year to make a run at it and he is doing it...until we fall off the cliff, i am giving him a free pass

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Are Fontenot and DeRo that bad defensively at SS that they couldnt slide there for a start here and there?

 

Fontenot, yes. And considering his experience there lasted what, a couple innings, last year, I doubt Lou sees him as an option.

 

DeRosa, maybe, although one might think he'd have played there more before if Lou considers him viable there.

 

If you do that though, you have to be prepared to say goodbye to Cedeno. He's out of options, and while he's not much right now, if Theriot falls off a cliff/gets seriously hurt, there's no one else in the system besides him that would play there for an extended stretch.

[Keener98]

Are Fontenot and DeRo that bad defensively at SS that they couldnt slide there for a start here and there?

 

Fontenot, yes. And considering his experience there lasted what, a couple innings, last year, I doubt Lou sees him as an option.

 

DeRosa, maybe, although one might think he'd have played there more before if Lou considers him viable there.

 

If you do that though, you have to be prepared to say goodbye to Cedeno. He's out of options, and while he's not much right now, if Theriot falls off a cliff/gets seriously hurt, there's no one else in the system besides him that would play there for an extended stretch.

 

Yea I forgot about Fontenots stint at SS last year. On Cedeno, I really dont know what to do with him. He started out the year so good, and then has struggled trying to be bench player. Im in the same camp as everyone else though, our biggest "need" is for a power bat off the bench, because having Cedeno, Johnson, and Blanco as your RH side of the bench doenst put much fear into anybody.

[Tracer Bullet]

Are Fontenot and DeRo that bad defensively at SS that they couldnt slide there for a start here and there?

 

Fontenot, yes. And considering his experience there lasted what, a couple innings, last year, I doubt Lou sees him as an option.

 

DeRosa, maybe, although one might think he'd have played there more before if Lou considers him viable there.

 

If you do that though, you have to be prepared to say goodbye to Cedeno. He's out of options, and while he's not much right now, if Theriot falls off a cliff/gets seriously hurt, there's no one else in the system besides him that would play there for an extended stretch.

 

Yea I forgot about Fontenots stint at SS last year. On Cedeno, I really dont know what to do with him. He started out the year so good, and then has struggled trying to be bench player. Im in the same camp as everyone else though, our biggest "need" is for a power bat off the bench, because having Cedeno, Johnson, and Blanco as your RH side of the bench doenst put much fear into anybody.

 

You can't get rid of Cedeno and he was good enough in AAA the last 2 times he's been there and the week that he got consistent starts in MLB this year that he'd be gone the second he hit waivers. I like Blake a lot, and I'd probably get rid of one of the RPs. With both Lieber and Gaudin, I think we have enough guys that can eat innings and we can shuffle a few guys over the next several weeks if we burn through the bullpen.

 

Although, if we have Fontenot, who's hit pretty well off the bench, do we need Ward?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Spilborghs replacing Johnson would be a good choice if the cost was low enough.

[Tracer Bullet]

Spilborghs replacing Johnson would be a good choice if the cost was low enough.

 

He's out a month, so he should be pretty cheap.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Spilborghs replacing Johnson would be a good choice if the cost was low enough.

 

He's out a month, so he should be pretty cheap.

 

That long eh? Bummer. At this point we're pretty much rehashing the "people to platoon with Pie" list from the spring, but Cody Ross is killing LHP again for Florida.

[soapy]

Randy Wolf at home: 2.54 ERA

Randy Wolf on road: 6.66 ERA

 

Greg Maddux at home: 2.36 ERA

Greg Maddux on road: 5.71 ERA

you should probably put this in your sig or something. can't be said enough as far as i'm concerned.