Re: College Basketball 2008-2009

[rchap24]

Scott Martin. I don't think it was ever really said, but if you read between the lines, it didn't seem like he was happy with his role. The kid's a very good shooter, and could end up being a decent rebounder. However, Purdue has long been a program that preaches defense, defense, and more defense. He has slow feet, which causes him to be a little more "handsy" on defense, which in turn leads to more fouls. I think that was one of the primary reasons he lost his starting job halfway through the season.

 

Could be that, but one of my friends from school wrote for the team and talked to him and I guess he never really blended with the other 3 guys. He for some reason was homesick even though he was only 45min away. He's probably going to play for Valpo or Indiana State so he'll play more and in the Valpo case cause it's where he's from

Scott Martin transferred to Notre Dame.

 

So did Ben Hansbrough, while I'm on the subject.

 

Ok I never knew where he went.....The rumor was he was going to Valpo, but haven't really heard anything about it since I graduated

[Andy]

Scott Martin. I don't think it was ever really said, but if you read between the lines, it didn't seem like he was happy with his role. The kid's a very good shooter, and could end up being a decent rebounder. However, Purdue has long been a program that preaches defense, defense, and more defense. He has slow feet, which causes him to be a little more "handsy" on defense, which in turn leads to more fouls. I think that was one of the primary reasons he lost his starting job halfway through the season.

 

Could be that, but one of my friends from school wrote for the team and talked to him and I guess he never really blended with the other 3 guys. He for some reason was homesick even though he was only 45min away. He's probably going to play for Valpo or Indiana State so he'll play more and in the Valpo case cause it's where he's from

Scott Martin transferred to Notre Dame.

 

So did Ben Hansbrough, while I'm on the subject.

 

Ok I never knew where he went.....The rumor was he was going to Valpo, but haven't really heard anything about it since I graduated

It got finalized around mid-May I think. Pretty quietly. I probably wouldn't know myself if I wasn't an ND fan. Both of those guys will play in 09-10, so we'll have a ready-made replacement for Kyle McAlarney.

[rchap24]

The two Purdue guys I really like. Robbie Hummell is a player. Hell he might have been the best player in the conference last year. E'Twaun Moore is just oozing with potential, he is one of the few guys in the Big Ten that you can just give the ball to and get a very good shot out of reguardless of the situation. I wonder though if he is the type of kid who ends up being a better pro than college player.

 

Purdue played some games against some very strong competition in Australia over the summer. All reports from that indicate that Moore showed a stronger ability to create shots for himself than he did as a freshman. I think he was a little tentative for the majority of his first season. Part of that probably had to do with the fact that his ball-handling skills weren't anything great. It sounds like he's really improved that part of his game, and that's one of the reasons I can see him really taking off this year.

 

Like you said, Hummell is a player. I'm curious to see how he builds off of his success as a freshman, since he was a strong all-around player. It wouldn't surprise me if he really improved his rebounding numbers this season.

 

Moore averaged 27 points per game against the Australian teams. It should be noted they didn't play other Australian college teams they played the professional teams and went 2-3.

 

Morgan or someone from MSU will almost have to be on first team because they will finish in the top three.

I wouldn't just pencil them in the top 3.

Purdue is better than them.

Wisconsin will be in the top of the conference, they always are and Bo rents Izzo's butt out each year as he owns him.

Ohio State has as much talent as they do.

 

I do think that MSU will be at the top, but I do not think they are a lock to finish above any of those teams.

I think it goes:

1. Purdue

2. Michigan State

3. Wisconsin

4. Ohio State/Minnesota

 

I'm saying this because Wisconsin lost to much this year. Yeah they held onto Landry and Flowers, but all those big guys graduated. Ohio State is very talented, but we have to see if that pans out and on the other hand Minnesota was last year where everyone predicted Purdue was going to be last year. So who knows maybe a year into Tubby Smith and all those Sophomores will make this team even better?

 

Minnesota's not very good. They aren't close to Ohio State.

 

Well Ohio State lost there best two players from last year. Going into the season they predicted Purdue and Minnesota to be 2 or 3 years away from being good cause there teams were so young. I'm not saying they will be very good I'm just saying that maybe they'll bust out with those guys this year that didn't really ever do it last year.

[Magnetic Curses]

while illinois will be bad, at least until second semester and probably later, dmac is going to wreck shop.

[rchap24]

while illinois will be bad, at least until second semester and probably later, dmac is going to wreck shop.

 

He was the only thing last year that was worth watching.

[illiniguy]

while illinois will be bad, at least until second semester and probably later, dmac is going to wreck shop.

 

He was the only thing last year that was worth watching.

I would say Calvin Brock had some good moments. But, yeah there wasn't much.

[SouthSideRyan]

college basketball doesn't exist for the next couple of years as far as I'm concerned.

 

Why?

 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpress/sampson4.jpg

 

Oh God, Bama football and IU basketball.

[CubbieBum]

The two Purdue guys I really like. Robbie Hummell is a player. Hell he might have been the best player in the conference last year. E'Twaun Moore is just oozing with potential, he is one of the few guys in the Big Ten that you can just give the ball to and get a very good shot out of reguardless of the situation. I wonder though if he is the type of kid who ends up being a better pro than college player.

 

Purdue played some games against some very strong competition in Australia over the summer. All reports from that indicate that Moore showed a stronger ability to create shots for himself than he did as a freshman. I think he was a little tentative for the majority of his first season. Part of that probably had to do with the fact that his ball-handling skills weren't anything great. It sounds like he's really improved that part of his game, and that's one of the reasons I can see him really taking off this year.

 

Like you said, Hummell is a player. I'm curious to see how he builds off of his success as a freshman, since he was a strong all-around player. It wouldn't surprise me if he really improved his rebounding numbers this season.

 

Moore averaged 27 points per game against the Australian teams. It should be noted they didn't play other Australian college teams they played the professional teams and went 2-3.

 

Morgan or someone from MSU will almost have to be on first team because they will finish in the top three.

I wouldn't just pencil them in the top 3.

Purdue is better than them.

Wisconsin will be in the top of the conference, they always are and Bo rents Izzo's butt out each year as he owns him.

Ohio State has as much talent as they do.

 

I do think that MSU will be at the top, but I do not think they are a lock to finish above any of those teams.

I think it goes:

1. Purdue

2. Michigan State

3. Wisconsin

4. Ohio State/Minnesota

 

I'm saying this because Wisconsin lost to much this year. Yeah they held onto Landry and Flowers, but all those big guys graduated. Ohio State is very talented, but we have to see if that pans out and on the other hand Minnesota was last year where everyone predicted Purdue was going to be last year. So who knows maybe a year into Tubby Smith and all those Sophomores will make this team even better?

 

Minnesota's not very good. They aren't close to Ohio State.

 

Considering they finished one spot behind Ohio State last year and it was Tubby Smith's first year I don't see why they can't finish ahead of Ohio State. Is it the most likely situation no but considering both teams have to replace its top two players I wouldn't lock either into any position.

[bcl412]

This has a high probability of being wrong but I am convinced Iowa is going to win 20 games this year. That'd be nice if that was enough to get them to the tournament but it probably won't.

[snoodmonger]

college basketball doesn't exist for the next couple of years as far as I'm concerned.

 

Why?

 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpress/sampson4.jpg

 

Oh God, Bama football and IU basketball.

 

 

I thought Fiver was an Auburn fan. Wrong?

[CubbieBum]

college basketball doesn't exist for the next couple of years as far as I'm concerned.

 

Why?

 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpress/sampson4.jpg

 

Oh God, Bama football and IU basketball.

 

 

I thought Fiver was an Auburn fan. Wrong?

 

hence why bama football is bugging him

[snoodmonger]

college basketball doesn't exist for the next couple of years as far as I'm concerned.

 

Why?

 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/fullcourtpress/sampson4.jpg

 

Oh God, Bama football and IU basketball.

 

 

I thought Fiver was an Auburn fan. Wrong?

 

hence why bama football is bugging him

 

 

Ahhh, totally misinterpreted that. Sorry, me dumb.

[rchap24]

This has a high probability of being wrong but I am convinced Iowa is going to win 20 games this year. That'd be nice if that was enough to get them to the tournament but it probably won't.

 

How!?!?

[TruffleShuffle]

The two Purdue guys I really like. Robbie Hummell is a player. Hell he might have been the best player in the conference last year. E'Twaun Moore is just oozing with potential, he is one of the few guys in the Big Ten that you can just give the ball to and get a very good shot out of reguardless of the situation. I wonder though if he is the type of kid who ends up being a better pro than college player.

 

Purdue played some games against some very strong competition in Australia over the summer. All reports from that indicate that Moore showed a stronger ability to create shots for himself than he did as a freshman. I think he was a little tentative for the majority of his first season. Part of that probably had to do with the fact that his ball-handling skills weren't anything great. It sounds like he's really improved that part of his game, and that's one of the reasons I can see him really taking off this year.

 

Like you said, Hummell is a player. I'm curious to see how he builds off of his success as a freshman, since he was a strong all-around player. It wouldn't surprise me if he really improved his rebounding numbers this season.

 

Moore averaged 27 points per game against the Australian teams. It should be noted they didn't play other Australian college teams they played the professional teams and went 2-3.

 

Morgan or someone from MSU will almost have to be on first team because they will finish in the top three.

I wouldn't just pencil them in the top 3.

Purdue is better than them.

Wisconsin will be in the top of the conference, they always are and Bo rents Izzo's butt out each year as he owns him.

Ohio State has as much talent as they do.

 

I do think that MSU will be at the top, but I do not think they are a lock to finish above any of those teams.

I think it goes:

1. Purdue

2. Michigan State

3. Wisconsin

4. Ohio State/Minnesota

 

hey where's penn state??? ahahahaha just kidding, they're #9 or 10.

[Derwood]

The two Purdue guys I really like. Robbie Hummell is a player. Hell he might have been the best player in the conference last year. E'Twaun Moore is just oozing with potential, he is one of the few guys in the Big Ten that you can just give the ball to and get a very good shot out of reguardless of the situation. I wonder though if he is the type of kid who ends up being a better pro than college player.

 

Purdue played some games against some very strong competition in Australia over the summer. All reports from that indicate that Moore showed a stronger ability to create shots for himself than he did as a freshman. I think he was a little tentative for the majority of his first season. Part of that probably had to do with the fact that his ball-handling skills weren't anything great. It sounds like he's really improved that part of his game, and that's one of the reasons I can see him really taking off this year.

 

Like you said, Hummell is a player. I'm curious to see how he builds off of his success as a freshman, since he was a strong all-around player. It wouldn't surprise me if he really improved his rebounding numbers this season.

 

Moore averaged 27 points per game against the Australian teams. It should be noted they didn't play other Australian college teams they played the professional teams and went 2-3.

 

Morgan or someone from MSU will almost have to be on first team because they will finish in the top three.

I wouldn't just pencil them in the top 3.

Purdue is better than them.

Wisconsin will be in the top of the conference, they always are and Bo rents Izzo's butt out each year as he owns him.

Ohio State has as much talent as they do.

 

I do think that MSU will be at the top, but I do not think they are a lock to finish above any of those teams.

I think it goes:

1. Purdue

2. Michigan State

3. Wisconsin

4. Ohio State/Minnesota

 

hey where's penn state??? ahahahaha just kidding, they're #9 or 10.

 

are you as excited about their home opener against....

 

*looks up schedule*

 

.... N.J.I.T.????

 

*spit take*

[bcl412]

This has a high probability of being wrong but I am convinced Iowa is going to win 20 games this year. That'd be nice if that was enough to get them to the tournament but it probably won't.

 

How!?!?

 

Honestly? Probably, mostly, unrealistic optimism. I just took a glance at the schedule and saw 20 games that, I thought, they had a good shot of winning. However, with the increase of the Big Ten Schedule and playing multiple pre-season tournaments, they play a lot of games so getting to 20 wins isn't completely out of the question, it probably wouldn't be that big a of an accomplishment however. Will I be wrong? Probably, but I have a good feeling about Iowa basketball this year, last year they had nobody and a couple of teams they had no chance beating, now they have some decent unknown players, not the highest recuriting class, but I think decent. I guess I have a lot of faith in the coaching staff.

[SouthSideRyan]

It's probably more likely that Iowa wins less than 20 over the next 2 years than wins 20 this year.

 

Minnesota finishing one spot below OSU does not mean they were remotely close to them last year. And Ohio State underachieved while Minnesota overachieved thanks to an easy schedule.

 

Man there are a lot of bad teams in the Big 10 this year.

[rchap24]

It's probably more likely that Iowa wins less than 20 over the next 2 years than wins 20 this year.

 

Minnesota finishing one spot below OSU does not mean they were remotely close to them last year. And Ohio State underachieved while Minnesota overachieved thanks to an easy schedule.

 

Man there are a lot of bad teams in the Big 10 this year.

 

I really think the only two very good teams are Purdue and Mich St. after that Wisconsin could be very good or mediocre. OSU will see and same with Minnesota

[SouthSideRyan]

Minnesota was 3-14 against top 100 teams last year. 2 of those wins were against #100 Iowa State and the charred remains of Indiana basketball as they mailed in the rest of their season.

 

For reference Ohio State was 11-11.

[UMFan83]

Manny Harris is so not making the All Big Ten team.

 

Michigan will be terrible.

 

Ummmmm he made second team All Big Ten last year and Hummel is the only returning first teamer meaning there are plenty of open slots. He is also the conferences leading returning scorer and Michigan will likely be better than they were last year.

 

Manny Harris was a guard with a A/TO ratio worse than 1. Much worse than 1.

 

Michigan's returning roster sucks. Their incoming freshmen suck. John Beilien should get down on his knees and thank God every day for the charred remains of the Indiana Hoosiers or they'd be a lock for last in the Big 10.

 

Isn't Beilien more of a "system coach" than anything? I think if he actually got a recruiting class of players that can play in his system, his team can play above their talent level and surprise some people.

 

It will be a long time before Michigan can recruit 4 and 5 star players with regularity though, if ever under Beilien. Michigan sports in general is probably at its low point in the school's history.

[rchap24]

Minnesota was 3-14 against top 100 teams last year. 2 of those wins were against #100 Iowa State and the charred remains of Indiana basketball as they mailed in the rest of their season.

 

For reference Ohio State was 11-11.

 

Yeah, but besides Purdue they were one of the youngest teams in the country and with a brand new coach. I'm just saying

[hawkeyecub]

It's probably more likely that Iowa wins less than 20 over the next 2 years than wins 20 this year.

 

Oh come on.

 

This team will win 15+ games and I would put quite a bit on that. Now 20 is higher than I would go but I don't think it's impossible. They won 13 overall and 6 in the Big Ten with a terrible team that had 9 players (not even enough to scrimmage with), no players that he recruited and the best player ended up killing the team at the end of the year and creating problems.

 

They'll win 9 games in the non-conference and that's counting every decent game as a loss (West Virginia, K State/Kentucky, at Boston College, at Drake). I would predict an 8-10 or so Big Ten season. At that point you're at 17 and it's not outrageous to add a win like Drake or go 9-9 in the Big Ten.

 

I'm excited for the year and hoping they can get in the NIT. They have a full roster and much more talent, at least talent that fits what he wants. Inside game will be solid with Tate and Cole back healthy. Kelly had a solid year as a freshman and will be with Gatens on the wing. PG is the biggest weakness and we'll see how that's resolved.

[illiniguy]

It's probably more likely that Iowa wins less than 20 over the next 2 years than wins 20 this year.

 

Oh come on.

 

This team will win 15+ games and I would put quite a bit on that. Now 20 is higher than I would go but I don't think it's impossible. They won 13 overall and 6 in the Big Ten with a terrible team that had 9 players (not even enough to scrimmage with), no players that he recruited and the best player ended up killing the team at the end of the year and creating problems.

 

They'll win 9 games in the non-conference and that's counting every decent game as a loss (West Virginia, K State/Kentucky, at Boston College, at Drake). I would predict an 8-10 or so Big Ten season. At that point you're at 17 and it's not outrageous to add a win like Drake or go 9-9 in the Big Ten.

 

I'm excited for the year and hoping they can get in the NIT. They have a full roster and much more talent, at least talent that fits what he wants. Inside game will be solid with Tate and Cole back healthy. Kelly had a solid year as a freshman and will be with Gatens on the wing. PG is the biggest weakness and we'll see how that's resolved.

Point guard is a glaring weakness and the most importanat spot on the court. Losing Freeman was a huge blow. I don't know your schedule, but I imagine 20 wins would be a miracle.

[mul21]

Just heard on the radio that Lute Olson is stepping down at Arizona as reported by Dickie V.

[Guest]

Just heard on the radio that Lute Olson is stepping down at Arizona as reported by Dickie V.

 

Mike Dunlap to take over this year. Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3659611

 

Screw Michael Snaer, I want to see Abdul Gaddy decommit from Arizona for a second time and go to UCLA:

 

We’re in unchartered waters on this one given the timing of the announcement.

 

When reached via text message Thursday morning, Scout.com asked if Olson’s retirement would impact his decision, Abdul Gaddy responded, “Yes it does.”

 

Here’s what we’ve gathered from a source close to the situation. During visits and conversations in recent months, Olson guaranteed the recruiting class that he would be around to coach them.

 

“Lute Olson personally guaranteed Abdul that he would help him get to the league from Arizona,” a source told Scout.com.