5/30 Rockies (Cook) @ Cubs (Lilly) 1:20 CSN & WGN Radio

[apete6]

edmonds should not bat higher than 9th.

 

7th anyway. DeRosa must have laughed when he saw he was behind Edmonds...

 

 

 

 

...in the lineup.

[PrimeTime]

Wow Neal. Cut that hair.You look like a chick

[bcruise]

Len just said 1:40 start time.

[CubsGM]

Anyone else see the video of one of Fukudome's longest home runs in Japan. He crushed this ball:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EFqxXm2Vd0Q

[cheapseats]

Lineups

 

COLORADO

Taveras, CF

Herrera, 2B

Spilborghs, LF

Atkins, 3B

Helton, 1B

Ianetta, C

Baker, RF

Quintanilla, SS

Cook, P

 

 

CUBS

Soriano, LF

Fontenot, 2B

Lee, 1B

Soto, C

Fukudome, RF

Edmonds, CF

DeRosa, 3B

Cedeno, SS

Lilly, P

 

Even our forfeit lineup look pretty good.

 

Theres nothing wrong with Ramirez is there?

 

He's 0-10 against the starter, so it's a nice day to give him a break.

 

Except that past performance in 10 at-bats has absolutely no predictive value.

 

I used to give the benefit of the doubt to managers who made lineup decisions based on past batter-pitcher performance (Brenly goes crazy over those stats), but the research of Lichtman/Tango/Dolphin pretty much squashes the idea that certain pitchers own certain hitters and vice versa.

[Sammy Sofa]

Fine, but it still doesn't hurt to give him a day off. In the larger picture, I'd rather have it now against a craptacular team.

[illiniguy]

Lineups

 

COLORADO

Taveras, CF

Herrera, 2B

Spilborghs, LF

Atkins, 3B

Helton, 1B

Ianetta, C

Baker, RF

Quintanilla, SS

Cook, P

 

 

CUBS

Soriano, LF

Fontenot, 2B

Lee, 1B

Soto, C

Fukudome, RF

Edmonds, CF

DeRosa, 3B

Cedeno, SS

Lilly, P

 

Even our forfeit lineup look pretty good.

 

Theres nothing wrong with Ramirez is there?

 

He's 0-10 against the starter, so it's a nice day to give him a break.

 

Except that past performance in 10 at-bats has absolutely no predictive value.

 

I used to give the benefit of the doubt to managers who made lineup decisions based on past batter-pitcher performance (Brenly goes crazy over those stats), but the research of Lichtman/Tango/Dolphin pretty much squashes the idea that certain pitchers own certain hitters and vice versa.

Yeah, but if Aramis is uncomfortable with a guy and needs a day off, just kill two birds with one stone.

[Bruno7481]

Lineups

 

COLORADO

Taveras, CF

Herrera, 2B

Spilborghs, LF

Atkins, 3B

Helton, 1B

Ianetta, C

Baker, RF

Quintanilla, SS

Cook, P

 

 

CUBS

Soriano, LF

Fontenot, 2B

Lee, 1B

Soto, C

Fukudome, RF

Edmonds, CF

DeRosa, 3B

Cedeno, SS

Lilly, P

 

Even our forfeit lineup look pretty good.

 

Theres nothing wrong with Ramirez is there?

 

He's 0-10 against the starter, so it's a nice day to give him a break.

 

Except that past performance in 10 at-bats has absolutely no predictive value.

 

I used to give the benefit of the doubt to managers who made lineup decisions based on past batter-pitcher performance (Brenly goes crazy over those stats), but the research of Lichtman/Tango/Dolphin pretty much squashes the idea that certain pitchers own certain hitters and vice versa.

 

I think it has to hold some value in certain situations. Whether it be a tought LH against a fellow lefty which is not as common as the R/R matchup.

 

Obviously 0-10 is a very small sample size, but I don't think you can completely disregard it in other instances. Some guys, for whatever reason, hit well against certain pitchers.

[Outshined_One]

I'm fine with giving Ramirez a day off when the field is wet and he's had plenty of groin injury problems in the past.

[shnsajax]

Lineups

 

COLORADO

Taveras, CF

Herrera, 2B

Spilborghs, LF

Atkins, 3B

Helton, 1B

Ianetta, C

Baker, RF

Quintanilla, SS

Cook, P

 

 

CUBS

Soriano, LF

Fontenot, 2B

Lee, 1B

Soto, C

Fukudome, RF

Edmonds, CF

DeRosa, 3B

Cedeno, SS

Lilly, P

 

Even our forfeit lineup look pretty good.

 

Theres nothing wrong with Ramirez is there?

 

He's 0-10 against the starter, so it's a nice day to give him a break.

 

Except that past performance in 10 at-bats has absolutely no predictive value.

 

I used to give the benefit of the doubt to managers who made lineup decisions based on past batter-pitcher performance (Brenly goes crazy over those stats), but the research of Lichtman/Tango/Dolphin pretty much squashes the idea that certain pitchers own certain hitters and vice versa.

 

I think it has to hold some value in certain situations. Whether it be a tought LH against a fellow lefty which is not as common as the R/R matchup.

 

Obviously 0-10 is a very small sample size, but I don't think you can completely disregard it in other instances. Some guys, for whatever reason, hit well against certain pitchers.

 

Hasn't Piniella been talking about trying to give players a day off? I remember him saying Lee didn't want one.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Fine, but it still doesn't hurt to give him a day off. In the larger picture, I'd rather have it now against a craptacular team.

 

I agree with the day off, but wouldnt you rather rest him against Rusch or De La Rosa instead of their top pitcher? I know hes 0-10 against him, and if it were Theriot or DeRosa, Id say sit him, but with Ramirez, I dont know it that small a sampling is reason enough to sit him.

[Choonch]

Has this game started yet?

[bcruise]

Has this game started yet?

Just did.

 

Taveras beats out the bunt single.

[cubscausestress]

Has this game started yet?

yes and taveras didn't waste any time getting on base

[ChiCubsFan]

Geo coulda took his glove off and threw that ball to 2nd left handed and still woulda thrown out Taveras. He's getting a horrible jump over there.

[ChiCubsFan]

Swing and miss so we can allow the Rockies to run themselves into an out.

[genbar]

They're making Ted work.

[Outshined_One]

That was Pierre-like, Jimbo.

[UMFan83]

Bah, Lilly has been a big disappointment so far this year.

[weis21]

Nice effort Jim. At least it "doesn't bother him" :banghead:

[Choonch]

Allowing bad hitters to get on in front of Spillborghs, Atkins and Helton isn't a good idea. ](*,)

[genbar]

Don't even try it, Willy.

[Careless]

Interesting that Taveras didn't even think about it.

[weis21]

Bah, Lilly has been a big disappointment so far this year.

Eh, he's been pretty solid since April 22: 3.53 ERA 1.18 WHIP

[illiniguy]

ballgame.