We won't win with Wood

[ChiCubsfan0502]

Chad Fox must close. :lol:

 

We just can't win with Wood.

[Sammy Sofa]

*cough*NL leader in saves*coughcoughcough*

 

Sham saves. They don't count.

[BCVM22]

The leadoff double he gave up to the Padres' best hitter was sorta shammy, as was the way said baserunne wouldn't even have brought the game to within one and how he never moved off second as the next three batters were retired handily.

 

Shammity shammity sham sham.

[Sammy Sofa]

So does this mean BudHouse just hates this season?

[NCCubFan]

*cough*NL leader in saves*coughcoughcough*

Only tied for the lead. Sham! If he were a REAL closer he'd have the lead to himself.

[TruffleShuffle]

where has budhouse been lately

[fromthestretch]

where has budhouse been lately

 

Both budhouse and wrigley23 have been oddly silent lately.

[kente777]

I agree that i'm not really at all worried about wood.

 

That said, dempster blew this many saves last year. In the ENTIRE SEASON. And we all talked about what a crappy closer he was. Definitely a double standard.

 

Maybe...but Wood's stuff is 10 times better than Dempster. Wood is looking like a closer. Dempster got away with alot of lucky saves. Reminded me alot of Borowski. I never really felt like any lead was safe with him or Dempster.

 

Wood is starting to look like the dominant closer we all knew he could be.

[BudHouse]

Right here all along boys. Since they broadened the rules for a 'save', it makes it alot easier to qualify for one. Rather than have the tying run at least in the on deck circle, now you can have the bases loaded and the tying run is in the dugout. How many saves does Wood have with 3+ runs? But the rules are what they are.

 

Lou has tried to manage Wood as best he can, resting him after 2 consecutive games because he still needs to be coddled. The offense has been so good that there haven't been that many 1-2 run games and Lou has to stick him in there just to get some work. That's a nice luxury to have.

 

I must remind everyone that the season is only 1/3 over and if Lou had someone to replace Carlos Marmol's slot, he would be the closer not Wood. But I'm pleased with the way the team has played and if Wood stays the closer and we win the World Series-GREAT!!!!!!

[Jon]

You can't slam Wood for blown saves and then try to take credit away from him for converted saves. They're part of the same save situation scoring rules that haven't changed recently and apply to the entire league. If you find fault with how saves are credited, then you probably shouldn't care as much about how he performs as a "closer" but rather how he performs as a relief pitcher:

 

2.78 ERA, 0.80 WHIP, 34 Ks, 6 BBs (2 intentional), 5 HBPs, 5.67 K/BB, .178/.252/.262 against.

 

That's very good.

[CubColtPacer]

Right here all along boys. Since they broadened the rules for a 'save', it makes it alot easier to qualify for one. Rather than have the tying run at least in the on deck circle, now you can have the bases loaded and the tying run is in the dugout. How many saves does Wood have with 3+ runs? But the rules are what they are.

 

Lou has tried to manage Wood as best he can, resting him after 2 consecutive games because he still needs to be coddled. The offense has been so good that there haven't been that many 1-2 run games and Lou has to stick him in there just to get some work. That's a nice luxury to have.

 

I must remind everyone that the season is only 1/3 over and if Lou had someone to replace Carlos Marmol's slot, he would be the closer not Wood. But I'm pleased with the way the team has played and if Wood stays the closer and we win the World Series-GREAT!!!!!!

 

Lou has tried to be careful with Wood, but they let Wood go 3 days in a row sometimes. An example is the last 3 days when he has picked up a 2 run, a 1 run, and a 3 run save.

 

And 6 of Wood's last 7 saves have been 1 or 2 run saves (3 1 run, 3 2 run), with 5 of those coming in the win streak. And they haven't exactly had to find too many places for Wood to get work, which is why he has the most appearances on the entire team.

Edited June 4, 2008 by CubColtPacer

[abuck1220]

worst reach ever.

[abuck1220]

and wood has one save in a game with more than a 3 run lead. one. totally discredits his whole season, imo.

[BudHouse]

I'm old school. I think my closer should excel in 1-2 run games, but beef his stats up with 3+ run games.

[Tracer Bullet]

Right here all along boys. Since they broadened the rules for a 'save', it makes it alot easier to qualify for one. Rather than have the tying run at least in the on deck circle, now you can have the bases loaded and the tying run is in the dugout. How many saves does Wood have with 3+ runs? But the rules are what they are.

 

Lou has tried to manage Wood as best he can, resting him after 2 consecutive games because he still needs to be coddled. The offense has been so good that there haven't been that many 1-2 run games and Lou has to stick him in there just to get some work. That's a nice luxury to have.

 

I must remind everyone that the season is only 1/3 over and if Lou had someone to replace Carlos Marmol's slot, he would be the closer not Wood. But I'm pleased with the way the team has played and if Wood stays the closer and we win the World Series-GREAT!!!!!!

 

Wow. He's worked 3 consecutive days at least twice. He has just 1 save in a 3+ run lead. And he has more IP than any closer in the league (exception for Torres, who became a closer less than 2 weeks ago). Lou is actually working him in non-save situations much more than necessary, given how many save situations we have.

 

You just pull this stuff out of your ass, don't you?

Edited June 4, 2008 by yanrslatr

[abuck1220]

I'm old school. I think my closer should excel in 1-2 run games, but beef his stats up with 3+ run games.

 

and your point is....?

[Derwood]

I'm old school. I think my closer should excel in 1-2 run games, but beef his stats up with 3+ run games.

 

and your point is....?

 

his point is that Wood is terrible in the narrow range of made up situations he has invented to prove his point

[bukie]

I'm old school. I think my closer should excel in 1-2 run games, but beef his stats up with 3+ run games.

 

and your point is....?

 

his point is that Wood is terrible in the narrow range of made up situations he has invented to prove his point

 

You know, on days where Wood blows saves, his stats look terrible. He's even 0 for 4 on save opportunities in those situations.

[BudHouse]

Right here all along boys. Since they broadened the rules for a 'save', it makes it alot easier to qualify for one. Rather than have the tying run at least in the on deck circle, now you can have the bases loaded and the tying run is in the dugout. How many saves does Wood have with 3+ runs? But the rules are what they are.

 

Lou has tried to manage Wood as best he can, resting him after 2 consecutive games because he still needs to be coddled. The offense has been so good that there haven't been that many 1-2 run games and Lou has to stick him in there just to get some work. That's a nice luxury to have.

 

I must remind everyone that the season is only 1/3 over and if Lou had someone to replace Carlos Marmol's slot, he would be the closer not Wood. But I'm pleased with the way the team has played and if Wood stays the closer and we win the World Series-GREAT!!!!!!

 

Wow. He's worked 3 consecutive days at least twice. He has just 1 save in a 3+ run lead. And he has more IP than any closer in the league (exception for Torres, who became a closer less than 2 weeks ago). Lou is actually working him in non-save situations much more than necessary, given how many save situations we have.

 

You just pull this stuff out of your ass, don't you?

 

Do everyone a favor..watch the language. I know you think it's funny to be real brave to and say things like that, but it's not. I'm by no means a prude, but children read this and we need to be grown-ups.

 

Out of Wood's 16 saves and 4 blown saves-11 are 1-2 run lead and 5 are 3+run leads. Those games are:

 

April 3 Save #1

May 6-Save #5

May 15-Save #8

May 16-Save #9

June 3-Save #16

 

Now that we've settled that..please kerry on.

[jersey cubs fan]

Right here all along boys. Since they broadened the rules for a 'save', it makes it alot easier to qualify for one. Rather than have the tying run at least in the on deck circle, now you can have the bases loaded and the tying run is in the dugout. How many saves does Wood have with 3+ runs? But the rules are what they are.

 

Lou has tried to manage Wood as best he can, resting him after 2 consecutive games because he still needs to be coddled. The offense has been so good that there haven't been that many 1-2 run games and Lou has to stick him in there just to get some work. That's a nice luxury to have.

 

I must remind everyone that the season is only 1/3 over and if Lou had someone to replace Carlos Marmol's slot, he would be the closer not Wood. But I'm pleased with the way the team has played and if Wood stays the closer and we win the World Series-GREAT!!!!!!

 

Wow. He's worked 3 consecutive days at least twice. He has just 1 save in a 3+ run lead. And he has more IP than any closer in the league (exception for Torres, who became a closer less than 2 weeks ago). Lou is actually working him in non-save situations much more than necessary, given how many save situations we have.

 

You just pull this stuff out of your ass, don't you?

 

Do everyone a favor..watch the language. I know you think it's funny to be real brave to and say things like that, but it's not. I'm by no means a prude, but children read this and we need to be grown-ups.

 

Out of Wood's 16 saves and 4 blown saves-11 are 1-2 run lead and 5 are 3+run leads. Those games are:

 

April 3 Save #1

May 6-Save #5

May 15-Save #8

May 16-Save #9

June 3-Save #16

 

Now that we've settled that..please kerry on.

 

You telling people to be grown-ups? With the nonsense you spout off about?

[Jon]

And if you want to go to the broadest sense of the argument, the Cubs are 25-6 when Wood pitches. When Wood pitches in a save situation, the Cubs are 18-2 by my count.

[SouthSideRyan]

Right here all along boys. Since they broadened the rules for a 'save', it makes it alot easier to qualify for one. Rather than have the tying run at least in the on deck circle, now you can have the bases loaded and the tying run is in the dugout. How many saves does Wood have with 3+ runs? But the rules are what they are.

 

Lou has tried to manage Wood as best he can, resting him after 2 consecutive games because he still needs to be coddled. The offense has been so good that there haven't been that many 1-2 run games and Lou has to stick him in there just to get some work. That's a nice luxury to have.

 

I must remind everyone that the season is only 1/3 over and if Lou had someone to replace Carlos Marmol's slot, he would be the closer not Wood. But I'm pleased with the way the team has played and if Wood stays the closer and we win the World Series-GREAT!!!!!!

 

Wow. He's worked 3 consecutive days at least twice. He has just 1 save in a 3+ run lead. And he has more IP than any closer in the league (exception for Torres, who became a closer less than 2 weeks ago). Lou is actually working him in non-save situations much more than necessary, given how many save situations we have.

 

You just pull this stuff out of your ass, don't you?

 

Do everyone a favor..watch the language. I know you think it's funny to be real brave to and say things like that, but it's not. I'm by no means a prude, but children read this and we need to be grown-ups.

 

Out of Wood's 16 saves and 4 blown saves-11 are 1-2 run lead and 5 are 3+run leads. Those games are:

 

April 3 Save #1

May 6-Save #5

May 15-Save #8

May 16-Save #9

June 3-Save #16

 

Now that we've settled that..please kerry on.

 

That only added up to 16.

 

It's pretty obvious he misinterpreted what you wrote to mean a more than 3 run lead. Are you going to take back your comment about not having a lot of close leads now that you've shown he has 11 saves with 1-2 run leads?

[Tracer Bullet]

Right here all along boys. Since they broadened the rules for a 'save', it makes it alot easier to qualify for one. Rather than have the tying run at least in the on deck circle, now you can have the bases loaded and the tying run is in the dugout. How many saves does Wood have with 3+ runs? But the rules are what they are.

 

Lou has tried to manage Wood as best he can, resting him after 2 consecutive games because he still needs to be coddled. The offense has been so good that there haven't been that many 1-2 run games and Lou has to stick him in there just to get some work. That's a nice luxury to have.

 

I must remind everyone that the season is only 1/3 over and if Lou had someone to replace Carlos Marmol's slot, he would be the closer not Wood. But I'm pleased with the way the team has played and if Wood stays the closer and we win the World Series-GREAT!!!!!!

 

Wow. He's worked 3 consecutive days at least twice. He has just 1 save in a 3+ run lead. And he has more IP than any closer in the league (exception for Torres, who became a closer less than 2 weeks ago). Lou is actually working him in non-save situations much more than necessary, given how many save situations we have.

 

You just pull this stuff out of your ass, don't you?

 

Do everyone a favor..watch the language. I know you think it's funny to be real brave to and say things like that, but it's not. I'm by no means a prude, but children read this and we need to be grown-ups.

 

Out of Wood's 16 saves and 4 blown saves-11 are 1-2 run lead and 5 are 3+run leads. Those games are:

 

April 3 Save #1

May 6-Save #5

May 15-Save #8

May 16-Save #9

June 3-Save #16

 

Now that we've settled that..please kerry on.

 

I am a grown up, but thanks for your concern. I'm much less concerned about a kid reading that word than the substance of your posts.

 

Re-read my post. He has 1 save in a 3+ run lead. In other words, more than 3 runs. It was the May 15 game. If you meant 3 or more, that wasn't clear. So 5 of 20 chances have come in games with a 3-4 run lead, I'm not sure how that helps your point.

[David]

Funny, to me it looks like Wood has done well in 1-2 run games and beefed up his stats with a few 3+ run saves.

[NCCubFan]

Re-read my post. He has 1 save in a 3+ run lead. In other words, more than 3 runs. It was the May 15 game. If you meant 3 or more, that wasn't clear. So 5 of 20 chances have come in games with a 3-4 run lead, I'm not sure how that helps your point.

Just a comment on notation. Usually when someone says 3+ that means 3 or more, so I think he's OK on that.

 

Having said that, that's about the only thing he's said on the entire topic I can defend him on.